Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, John covici wrote: > OK, you have been of great help -- just one more question -- or > rather two, I cannot find a control for the pcm out, although other > things are set up which say value 'PCM OUT' I cannot find a control > labelled 'PCM OUT' to either capture or do anything about. Also what > are h/w in 0 through 7 and what are the multi capture switches and > volumes 1 through 9. I think I am slowly getting to understand this, > but it is a bit confusing. > If you are looking for a volume/mute control for PCM OUT you can have a look at the multi track volume for channels 0 and 1. That's at least the one for the Hoontech card. Those multi capture settings are (to my understanding) virtual input devices provided by the ice1712, but you should better ask some expert. The situation with the h/w inputs could be similar to the h/w output, namely that one pair is "real" while the others are virtual, but again, I don't know your card (the Hoontech has only one pair of RCA jacks for input/output each). Ciao, Roland +---+-+ |TU Muenchen| | |Physik-Department E18 | Raum3558 | |James-Franck-Str. | Telefon 089/289-12592 | |85747 Garching | | +---+-+ --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Stuff, things, and much much more. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
OK, you have been of great help -- just one more question -- or rather two, I cannot find a control for the pcm out, although other things are set up which say value 'PCM OUT' I cannot find a control labelled 'PCM OUT' to either capture or do anything about. Also what are h/w in 0 through 7 and what are the multi capture switches and volumes 1 through 9. I think I am slowly getting to understand this, but it is a bit confusing. Thank you for all your help. on Monday 07/08/2002 Roland Kuhn([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, John covici wrote: > > > I found some controls "iec958 Playback Default" which can be changed > > but its a number of probably hex digits whose meaning I don't know. > > There is an Iec958 Playback Stream which says inactive in its comment > > should I ignore that one? > > I found Iec958 Master as a boolean so I can turn that on for playback. > > I found something called "H/w Playback Route" which has many possible > > values -- the only ones to do with iec958 say iec958 In L and R -- is > > that how you play through the sp/diff out by setting the hw playback > > route to this value? And should I use l or r for stereo programs? > > And there is another control of the same name but an index 1 what is > > this? > > > The "H/W Playback Route" defines which input will be routed to the analog > output. I usually put it to "Digital Mixer" to be able to set the volumes > with the alsamixer. It you set it e.g. to PCM or SP/DIF, the respective > input signal is passed directly to the DAC, meaning you cannot change > anything about it. > > > I also have two iec958 playbback routes with one of them having > > index 1. > > > These are the settings you looked for: The one with index=1 is the right > channel, the other the left. Set them to whatever source you want to send > to the SP/DIF output: to make a direct copy you can set it to SP/DIF In, > but you can also use PCM or the Digital Mixer to route the computer > generated sounds to your SP/DIF output. The advantage of the Digital Mixer > setting is that you will be able to listen to a CD (from your CD-drive) > while also hearing other sounds (if you set the volumes/mute settings > correctly with alsamixer). > > > Many of these controls have 12 enumerations 0 to pcmout and hw > > numbers except the last ones which are the iec958 and digital mixer > > whatever that is. > > > > So you see why I need some help on these -- its hard to tell what all > > these do. > > > I hope I was able to help a bit... > > Ciao, > Roland > > +---+-+ > |TU Muenchen| | > |Physik-Department E18 | Raum3558 | > |James-Franck-Str. | Telefon 089/289-12592 | > |85747 Garching | | > +---+-+ -- John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Oh, it's good to be a geek. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, John covici wrote: > I found some controls "iec958 Playback Default" which can be changed > but its a number of probably hex digits whose meaning I don't know. > There is an Iec958 Playback Stream which says inactive in its comment > should I ignore that one? > I found Iec958 Master as a boolean so I can turn that on for playback. > I found something called "H/w Playback Route" which has many possible > values -- the only ones to do with iec958 say iec958 In L and R -- is > that how you play through the sp/diff out by setting the hw playback > route to this value? And should I use l or r for stereo programs? > And there is another control of the same name but an index 1 what is > this? > The "H/W Playback Route" defines which input will be routed to the analog output. I usually put it to "Digital Mixer" to be able to set the volumes with the alsamixer. It you set it e.g. to PCM or SP/DIF, the respective input signal is passed directly to the DAC, meaning you cannot change anything about it. > I also have two iec958 playbback routes with one of them having > index 1. > These are the settings you looked for: The one with index=1 is the right channel, the other the left. Set them to whatever source you want to send to the SP/DIF output: to make a direct copy you can set it to SP/DIF In, but you can also use PCM or the Digital Mixer to route the computer generated sounds to your SP/DIF output. The advantage of the Digital Mixer setting is that you will be able to listen to a CD (from your CD-drive) while also hearing other sounds (if you set the volumes/mute settings correctly with alsamixer). > Many of these controls have 12 enumerations 0 to pcmout and hw > numbers except the last ones which are the iec958 and digital mixer > whatever that is. > > So you see why I need some help on these -- its hard to tell what all > these do. > I hope I was able to help a bit... Ciao, Roland +---+-+ |TU Muenchen| | |Physik-Department E18 | Raum3558 | |James-Franck-Str. | Telefon 089/289-12592 | |85747 Garching | | +---+-+ --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Oh, it's good to be a geek. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
John covici wrote: > > What is this package -- I never heard of it whatsoever alsa-tools. > Its nnot on the normal ftp site maybe its in cvs or something? > > And what does envy24 do? There are some screenshots of it in on the site I downloaded it from. It looks quite like the Windows control panel for the soundcard. I downloaded alsa-tools rpm from one of the normal ftp mirrors on the alsa site. -- Cheers, Bruce --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. /\\\/\\\/\\\/ / Bruce Paterson / \\\ \\\ \\\ / /Senior Design Engineer / /\\\/\\\/\\\/ / 87 Peters Ave, Mulgrave, Vic, 3170 / / \\\ \\\ \\\ / PO Box 4112, Mulgrave, Vic, 3170, Australia / /\\\/\\\ \\\/ Ph: +61 3 8561 4232 Fax: +61 3 9560 9055 Tele-IP Ltd. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Icq: #32015991 WWW: http://www.tele-ip.com VK3TJN --- --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek We have stuff for geeks like you. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
on Saturday 07/06/2002 Roland Kuhn([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, John Covici wrote: > > > Could some kind person answer a few questions about the controls of > > the ice1712. > > > I hope so ;-) Which card do you actually have? My experience is limited to > the Hoontech SoundTrack DSP24 Value and I have yet to test the SPDIF > capabilities. However, I dived somewhat into the code. Hope it > helped;-) I have the Midiman audilfile 24/96 which is mainly meant for digital sources. > > > I have the manual for the card and I use it with that other operating > > system all the time, but I cannot figure out how the alsa controls > > correspond. > > > > What I would like to do more specifically is playback through the > > spdiff out interface, set the sample rate to 44.100 khz, to record I > > have to set the clock and sample rate to spdiff and after recording > > is over set it back to internal. I usually want to record from the > > sp/diff input as well. > > I found some controls "iec958 Playback Default" which can be changed but its a number of probably hex digits whose meaning I don't know. There is an Iec958 Playback Stream which says inactive in its comment should I ignore that one? I found Iec958 Master as a boolean so I can turn that on for playback. I found something called "H/w Playback Route" which has many possible values -- the only ones to do with iec958 say iec958 In L and R -- is that how you play through the sp/diff out by setting the hw playback route to this value? And should I use l or r for stereo programs? And there is another control of the same name but an index 1 what is this? I also have two iec958 playbback routes with one of them having index 1. Many of these controls have 12 enumerations 0 to pcmout and hw numbers except the last ones which are the iec958 and digital mixer whatever that is. So you see why I need some help on these -- its hard to tell what all these do. > I don't know about the recording, but the selection of the source for the > SPDIF output and external/internal clock can be made in /etc/asound.conf. > You would have to create two versions of this file (it comes from alsactl > -store) for internal/external clock and load them in turn with alsactl > -restore (I have forgotten the flag to specify a filename, but it is in > the manpage). These settings are near the end of the file and the names > are "Multi Track IEC958 Master" for the internal/external clock setting > and "IEC958 Playback Route" for the selection of what to play on the SPDIF > output. You would have to set the Master setting to on/off in the two > config files and the Route to "Digital Mixer" to get the best control over > what happens. > > There also is the ncurses based program alsamixer which lets you set the > volume for the SPDIF input, and I think it even lets you change the > internal/external clock master with the "mute" (m) switch, when the cursor > is on the appropriate column. If this is overkill for you, I also remember > to have switched things like that with amixer, but you would have to read > the manpage as the command line syntax is not truly intuitive. > > Ciao, > Roland > > +---+-+ > |TU Muenchen| | > |Physik-Department E18 | Raum3558 | > |James-Franck-Str. | Telefon 089/289-12592 | > |85747 Garching | | > +---+-+ > -- John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Got root? We do. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, John Covici wrote: > Could some kind person answer a few questions about the controls of > the ice1712. > I hope so ;-) Which card do you actually have? My experience is limited to the Hoontech SoundTrack DSP24 Value and I have yet to test the SPDIF capabilities. However, I dived somewhat into the code. Hope it helped;-) > I have the manual for the card and I use it with that other operating > system all the time, but I cannot figure out how the alsa controls > correspond. > > What I would like to do more specifically is playback through the > spdiff out interface, set the sample rate to 44.100 khz, to record I > have to set the clock and sample rate to spdiff and after recording > is over set it back to internal. I usually want to record from the > sp/diff input as well. > I don't know about the recording, but the selection of the source for the SPDIF output and external/internal clock can be made in /etc/asound.conf. You would have to create two versions of this file (it comes from alsactl -store) for internal/external clock and load them in turn with alsactl -restore (I have forgotten the flag to specify a filename, but it is in the manpage). These settings are near the end of the file and the names are "Multi Track IEC958 Master" for the internal/external clock setting and "IEC958 Playback Route" for the selection of what to play on the SPDIF output. You would have to set the Master setting to on/off in the two config files and the Route to "Digital Mixer" to get the best control over what happens. There also is the ncurses based program alsamixer which lets you set the volume for the SPDIF input, and I think it even lets you change the internal/external clock master with the "mute" (m) switch, when the cursor is on the appropriate column. If this is overkill for you, I also remember to have switched things like that with amixer, but you would have to read the manpage as the command line syntax is not truly intuitive. Ciao, Roland +---+-+ |TU Muenchen| | |Physik-Department E18 | Raum3558 | |James-Franck-Str. | Telefon 089/289-12592 | |85747 Garching | | +---+-+ --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Got root? We do. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
Well, this tool uses gtk -- unless there is an ncurses version of gtk I am out of luck. I cannot yet access X apps because I need speech output to tell me what is on the screen -- it may be coming, but not soon. on 07/06/2002 Andrew Nesbit([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > John covici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What is this package -- I never heard of it whatsoever alsa-tools. > > Its nnot on the normal ftp site maybe its in cvs or something? > > > > ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/tools/alsa-tools-0.9.0rc1.tar.bz2 > > > And what does envy24 do? > > envy24control. It's the ALSA equivalent of the M-Audio control panel > utility that you find in MS Windows. It lets you access all(?) of the > functionality of your ice1712-based card. > > Andrew. -- John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
What is this package -- I never heard of it whatsoever alsa-tools. Its nnot on the normal ftp site maybe its in cvs or something? And what does envy24 do? Thanks. on 07/06/2002 Andrew Nesbit([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > John Covici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Could some kind person answer a few questions about the controls of > > the ice1712. > > > > I cannot figure out how the alsa controls > > correspond. > > Have you compiled the envy24control tool from the alsa-tools package? > > Andrew. -- John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
Re: [Alsa-devel] controls for the ice1712
John Covici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could some kind person answer a few questions about the controls of > the ice1712. > > I cannot figure out how the alsa controls > correspond. Have you compiled the envy24control tool from the alsa-tools package? Andrew. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Alsa-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
