Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [Alsa-devel] Bugtracking system

2004-01-23 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Sam Vilain wrote:

 What about sub-sub-categories for attaching bugs to individual
 drivers?

That is not supported by Bugzilla. One possibility is to remove one level
and add something like ALSA drivers as a second separate top-level
Category with the main drivers as individual Components. I think that can
and should be done later when the use of bugzilla.kernel.org is established.

The Bugzilla administrator probably would hesitate to do that now before it
is known that the system is really used for ALSA bugtracking. (There is not
yet a single entry for the whole current Alternate Trees Category ...)

Cheers,
Andreas



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Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [Alsa-devel] Bugtracking system

2004-01-22 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
 In case the proposal is accepted and nobody has connections to the
 maintainers of kernel.org I would volunteer to ask the bugzilla.kernel.org
 maintainer to add a new Category Sound with a small number of Components
 (suggestions?).

I have asked the maintainer of bugzilla.kernel.org and he suggested that
ALSA could be treated as an alternate tree within their system. If there are
no counterproposals until this weekend (for example volunteers to setup and
maintain Mantis :-) I will ask him to add this to bugzilla.kernel.org:

Category: ALSA (or something similar such as ALSA (Alternate Tree) or
Alternate Tree/ALSA)
Components: Drivers, Library, Tools And Utilities, Miscellaneous

As far as I see it new entries should automatically be assigned to the ALSA
developer list.

Comments?/Further suggestions?

Cheers,
Andreas



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Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [Alsa-devel] Bugtracking system

2004-01-21 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I have no doubt that Mantis is a good system and I might even concede that
it is superior to Bugzilla. But I prefer to reuse the Bugzilla system at
kernel.org for these reasons:

1. Nobody has yet volunteered to setup and maintain Mantis or Bugzilla for
ALSA purposes.

2. ALSA is closely related with the kernel (especially since version 2.6).
It therefore makes some sense to track ALSA issues together with (other)
kernel issues. This makes it easy to link to other kernel bugs or move bugs
to other Categories.

3. It is probably much easier to add a Category Sound to
bugzilla.kernel.org with a suitable list of Components than to create and
maintain a new Bugzilla or Mantis installation just for ALSA.

In other words: this approach enables the ALSA project to use networking
effects.

Of course this approach also has disadvantages. One of them is that the
treatment of version numbers (kernel versus ALSA) is not obvious. But I
think that this does not prevent the use of bugzilla.kernel.org for ALSA.
The Version field is configured as a free form field. Those who enter bugs
for ALSA should either enter the kernel version or a combination of kernel
version and ALSA version. The second alternative would (hopefully) be used
by those people who create their own kernels.

In case the proposal is accepted and nobody has connections to the
maintainers of kernel.org I would volunteer to ask the bugzilla.kernel.org
maintainer to add a new Category Sound with a small number of Components
(suggestions?).

Andreas

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Subject: [Alsa-user] Re: [Alsa-devel] Bugtracking system


 On 21 Jan 2004, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
  I clearly prefer Bugzilla to the sourceforge bugtracking system.

 I can't stand bugzilla or sourceforge bugtracker.

 I searched a long time for a good bugtracker, tried many different ones
 before I decided on mantis: http://mantisbt.sourceforge.net/

 It's much more straightforward than bugzilla, far more powerful than
 sourceforge, much much easier to use, and very easy to install.

 -Dan



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Re: [Alsa-user] Re: [Alsa-devel] Bugtracking system

2004-01-21 Thread Dan Hollis
On 21 Jan 2004, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
 2. ALSA is closely related with the kernel (especially since version 2.6).
 It therefore makes some sense to track ALSA issues together with (other)
 kernel issues. This makes it easy to link to other kernel bugs or move bugs
 to other Categories.

This is probably the strongest argument, the rest are rubbish imho :-)

Another possibility would be to create gateway between bugzilla and 
mantis... but that would take some coding.

-Dan



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