Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?
Hi everyone, I have found this discussion quite interesting and informative. However (and I don’t mean to sound negative) but I am **really** hoping someone can help me out with my particular case: 1) Sound DOES work for the first few minutes after rebooting particularly if I have not run Linux for a while (either computer has been off or booted under Windows). 2) Support for my particular laptop (the LG S1) is mentioned specifically in the ALSA changelog way back in 1.0.12 Is anyone able to help me with my particular case? I have posted the output from the alsa-info.sh script here: http://www. goog_1244726256041alsa goog_1244726256041 -project.org/db/?f=9e5b4548ded9b389661b0e669ecb5cd7364ff973 Please let me know what other information else might be needed as well as how I might be able to get that info (if I need to download a script, run a specific terminal command, etc). Thanks very much, Daren Krive On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Lee Revell rlrev...@joe-job.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Sergei Steshenkosteshenko_ser...@list.ru wrote: Oh, so the info _does_ _exist_ in .ini file ?! And isn't the file a text one ? And if so, can't it just be extracted from Windows driver CD or from the manufacturer website, parsed, and the info used to make ALSA driver work ? Yes, this seems to be the case with some vendor drivers. And ALSA now supports setting HDA pin configs from userspace so this info along with trial and error can be used to get sound working, then report the info back to ALSA developers so it can be made to work OOTB. Lee -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?
I am running the latest version of Ubuntu 9.04 - so whatever version of Alsa comes with that I have already run the script you mention. The output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9e5b4548ded9b389661b0e669ecb5cd7364ff973 I have a Realtek ALC883 soundcard. What happens is that if I haven't run Ubuntu for a while (several hours) and I reboot into Linux I get sound for a few minutes. The sound soon has static in it and then slowly gets more static and quieter at the same time. by the time it becomes too quiet to hear it is all but static. At that point it continues to work using the headphone jacks. Weird eh? Daren On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Arthur Marsh arthur.ma...@internode.on.net wrote: Daren Krive wrote, on 2009-06-05 08:59: Dear list, I have been using Ubuntu for about a year now and prior to that I was an big Suse fan (it still holds a soft spot in my heart). Overall I am VERY impressed with the quality of open source software. Ubuntu in particular impresses me with it's polished and professional appearance right from boot up to shutdown. However in all the time I have been using various flavours of Linux I have never been able to get sound working on either of the notebooks that I have been using durring this time. I do not mean to be negative but I am seriously wondering. Do most Linux users simply learn to live without sound? Or live with sound that does not operate as expected? I have been searching for over a year on how to get sound working on my LG QB01A9 notebook to no avail. I even read in the ALSA changelog that support for this notebook was added ( http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.11_v1.0.12) yet it still does not work. Besides finding out how to upgrade ALSA in your distribution to 1.0.20, to help others help you, run the script at: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh The script will offer to upload the output to the ALSA project web site, and give you a URL that you can post here. Regards, Arthur. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?
Hi Bill, On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: Nope. sound works fine on mine. Note that alsa is now on .19, and .12 is ancient. I did not mean that I was running Alsa .12. I am running the latest that comes with Ubuntu 9.04. I simply meant that according to the changelog this is the point at which support for my particular laptop was apparently added. So, its been supported for a good while yet I cannot get it working. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: But you have not told us anything except that you have the LC QB01A9 notebook. Are we really supposed to track down the sound card? I have posted all the details in the past (although perhaps not on this list). I will do so again. Right now I am under Windows Vista... let me reboot and give you the details you ask for. Regards, Daren -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?
I am all over the idea of getting a Linux friendly laptop the next time I go shopping. So far I know enough to stay away from: 1) ATI video cards 2) Intel HDA sound anything else I should be aware of? I still want to get decent hardware. Can someone recommend a laptop brand that typically has good support for Linux? I do not want a clunker. I like something reasonably sexy like my LG is (check out the pic) http://ca.lge.com/en/products/catalog/MultiImageDisplay.jsp?categoryId=040210modelCodeDisplay=S1-QP01A9imageUrl=/en/down/product/040210/S1-QP01A9/S1_T1_Angle_LRG.jpg Regards, Daren On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Jamie Lokier ja...@shareable.org wrote: Daren Krive wrote: I do not mean to be negative but I am seriously wondering. Do most Linux users simply learn to live without sound? Or live with sound that does not operate as expected? I have been searching for over a year on how to get sound working on my LG QB01A9 notebook to no avail. I have two laptops running Linux over the years, and sound has varied a lot as I upgraded and updated the distro. It works with some kernel versions, doesn't work with some kernel versions, with some of them it works but the sound is distorted, and with some of them output works but recording does not. Every time I ask the question i get pointed to the same 6 URL's that deal with getting Intel HDA working and then I hear nothing more. I have *tried* this and it doesn't work. Please help me!! I am really starting to wonder if getting sound to work is a pipe dream :-( Intel HDA seems to be particularly awkward. It's the one I've had most problems with - so many different behaviours with each kernel version, as described above. I understand that Intel HDA hardware is wired up in lots of different ways in different laptops, unfortunately, so there needs to be some special code for many laptops in addition to the HDA driver. But that doesn't explain why new kernels every few months behave so differently on my Intel HDA laptop. Hopefully someone will produce laptops that use standard-ish USB sound internally sometime, like they already do with Bluetooth, Wifi and memory card readers. Certainly I'll be testing my next laptop with distro CDs before buying it, if the next one comes with Intel HDA. In theory HDA is a good idea but it's a mess in practice. -- Jamie -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Do must Linux users just live without sound?
Dear list, I have been using Ubuntu for about a year now and prior to that I was an big Suse fan (it still holds a soft spot in my heart). Overall I am VERY impressed with the quality of open source software. Ubuntu in particular impresses me with it's polished and professional appearance right from boot up to shutdown. However in all the time I have been using various flavours of Linux I have never been able to get sound working on either of the notebooks that I have been using durring this time. I do not mean to be negative but I am seriously wondering. Do most Linux users simply learn to live without sound? Or live with sound that does not operate as expected? I have been searching for over a year on how to get sound working on my LG QB01A9 notebook to no avail. I even read in the ALSA changelog that support for this notebook was added ( http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.11_v1.0.12) yet it still does not work. I am a website developer writing business apps in ASP.NET with MS-SQL and MySQL backends. So, while I am not exactly a kernel hacker, I am certainly not a computer illiterate either. Every time I ask the question i get pointed to the same 6 URL's that deal with getting Intel HDA working and then I hear nothing more. I have *tried* this and it doesn't work. Please help me!! I am really starting to wonder if getting sound to work is a pipe dream :-( Best regards, Daren Krive -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
Hi Nigel, Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried what you suggested and still no luck. I do *sometimes* get static through my speakers when I boot up which disappears and then silence. Here is the new output of the script after I did what you suggested... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9e5b4548ded9b389661b0e669ecb5cd7364ff973 Regards, Daren On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.frwrote: On Saturday 23 May 2009 17:03, Daren Krive wrote: Hi Arthur, Thanks so much for helping me. I have downloaded the run the script. The output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e2abef283d0e109086c3ce126a0db8ae6b967e21 I am really excited about the possibility of getting sound to work. I feel that with XP running under VirtualBox I wouldn't even need to dual-boot windows anymore if only I could get sound working. Everything else works (almost). Sound is the only thing I really can't live without anymore. Daren. Hi Daren. The PCM control is down at zero. Open alsamixer as user in Gnomes terminal, as below, which will show all controls for your soundcard, then push up the PCM slider, which hopefully will resolve your sound problem. alsamixer -D hw:0 All the best. Nigel. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
Hi Arthur, Thanks so much for helping me. I have downloaded the run the script. The output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e2abef283d0e109086c3ce126a0db8ae6b967e21 I am really excited about the possibility of getting sound to work. I feel that with XP running under VirtualBox I wouldn't even need to dual-boot windows anymore if only I could get sound working. Everything else works (almost). Sound is the only thing I really can't live without anymore. Daren. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Arthur Marsh arthur.ma...@internode.on.net wrote: Daren Krive wrote, on 11/05/09 22:29: Dear fellow list members, In over three months I have never received a single response to my question (below). Perhaps I am violating some list rule or perhaps I am not providing the right kind of information. I am really just a fellow Linux user who *really* wants to get sound working on his notebook. Can someone please give me some insight into what I might be doing wrong? I do not want to be a “pain in the neck” to this community but I really don’t know what I might be doing wrong. Best regards, Daren Krive Have you run the script at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and posted its output or the URL to its output in this mailing list yet? Arthur. -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Nigel Henry cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.frwrote: On Saturday 23 May 2009 17:03, Daren Krive wrote: Hi Arthur, Thanks so much for helping me. I have downloaded the run the script. The output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e2abef283d0e109086c3ce126a0db8ae6b967e21 I am really excited about the possibility of getting sound to work. I feel that with XP running under VirtualBox I wouldn't even need to dual-boot windows anymore if only I could get sound working. Everything else works (almost). Sound is the only thing I really can't live without anymore. Daren. Hi Daren. The PCM control is down at zero. Open alsamixer as user in Gnomes terminal, as below, which will show all controls for your soundcard, then push up the PCM slider, which hopefully will resolve your sound problem. alsamixer -D hw:0 All the best. Nigel. Hi Nigel, Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried what you suggested and still no luck. I do *sometimes* get static through my speakers when I boot up which disappears and then silence. Here is the new output of the script after I did what you suggested... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9e5b4548ded9b389661b0e669ecb5cd7364ff973 Regards, Daren -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp asthey present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://www.creativitycat.com ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
Dear fellow list members, In over three months I have never received a single response to my question (below). Perhaps I am violating some list rule or perhaps I am not providing the right kind of information. I am really just a fellow Linux user who *really* wants to get sound working on his notebook. Can someone please give me some insight into what I might be doing wrong? I do not want to be a “pain in the neck” to this community but I really don’t know what I might be doing wrong. Best regards, Daren Krive On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, sorry, for the record I have a Realtek ALC883. Regards, Daren On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.comwrote: Can anyone suggest how I could find more information about this problem? I have now upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 and still have the same problem. I also tried openSuSE 11.1 and had the same issue. Clearly the soundcard works because I can get sound through the headphones. It seems like under Linux I can't turn on the computer's speakers. however, it still does the weird occasionally play sound for a few minutes after rebooting and then fade to static. Sometimes it just plays static and then disappears. I cannot tell you how much I would LOVE to get sound working under Ubuntu. Darren -- Forwarded message -- From: Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:17 AM Subject: No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9 To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Hi everyone, Sorry in advance if this type of question does not belong on this list. I am new to this. I have never been able to get sound working properly on my laptop under * any* Linux distro. I have the LG S1 (model QB01A9). The sound works fine on the headphone jack but not on the internal speakers. I have read tonnes of suggestions with similar problems but none of the suggestions has worked for me. I have an hda-intel sound card. After much digging I think I am finally on to something. I found on the alsa-project.org site that support for the LG S1 laptop was added between versions 1.0.11 and 1.0.12. You can see the change log here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.11_v1.0.12 Ubuntu 8.10 has Alsa 1.0.17 so presumably this problem has been resolved. The change log (only says *Add support for LG S1 laptop* and then later A*dded the model entry for LG S1 laptop*. This fills me with hope but no where (that I can see) does it say what that model entry is. I know that this has to go into my alsa-base file but what is the model entry to use? Perhaps I am not reading the change log correctly? Can someone help me out here? Perhaps I can email one of the developers? So close and yet so far Best regards, Daren Krive -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] Fwd: No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
Can anyone suggest how I could find more information about this problem? I have now upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 and still have the same problem. I also tried openSuSE 11.1 and had the same issue. Clearly the soundcard works because I can get sound through the headphones. It seems like under Linux I can't turn on the computer's speakers. however, it still does the weird occasionally play sound for a few minutes after rebooting and then fade to static. Sometimes it just plays static and then disappears. I cannot tell you how much I would LOVE to get sound working under Ubuntu. Darren -- Forwarded message -- From: Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:17 AM Subject: No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9 To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Hi everyone, Sorry in advance if this type of question does not belong on this list. I am new to this. I have never been able to get sound working properly on my laptop under *any * Linux distro. I have the LG S1 (model QB01A9). The sound works fine on the headphone jack but not on the internal speakers. I have read tonnes of suggestions with similar problems but none of the suggestions has worked for me. I have an hda-intel sound card. After much digging I think I am finally on to something. I found on the alsa-project.org site that support for the LG S1 laptop was added between versions 1.0.11 and 1.0.12. You can see the change log here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.11_v1.0.12 Ubuntu 8.10 has Alsa 1.0.17 so presumably this problem has been resolved. The change log (only says *Add support for LG S1 laptop* and then later A *dded the model entry for LG S1 laptop*. This fills me with hope but no where (that I can see) does it say what that model entry is. I know that this has to go into my alsa-base file but what is the model entry to use? Perhaps I am not reading the change log correctly? Can someone help me out here? Perhaps I can email one of the developers? So close and yet so far Best regards, Daren Krive -- The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! Your production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but thanks to Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! With the NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanner you'll get full speed at 300 dpi even with all image processing features enabled. http://p.sf.net/sfu/kodak-com___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
Does anyone have any idea about how to get sound working on the LGS1 notebook? When I first boot it works for a few minutes but then quickly disappears (although it continues to work through the headphone jack). Sometimes it lasts longer then others. I am certain there must be something else that is loading and causing some kind of conflict. I found the information below a long time ago. Any advice on how I can resolve this or what other information I can provide would be a great help. I find it encouraging that the ALSA change log for version 1.0.11 to 1.0.12 specifically says that support was added for this particular laptop. I am running Ubuntu 8.10 Best regards, Daren Krive On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Daren Krive daren.kr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Sorry in advance if this type of question does not belong on this list. I am new to this. I have never been able to get sound working properly on my laptop under * any* Linux distro. I have the LG S1 (model QB01A9). The sound works fine on the headphone jack but not on the internal speakers. I have read tonnes of suggestions with similar problems but none of the suggestions has worked for me. I have an hda-intel sound card. After much digging I think I am finally on to something. I found on the alsa-project.org site that support for the LG S1 laptop was added between versions 1.0.11 and 1.0.12. You can see the change log here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.11_v1.0.12 Ubuntu 8.10 has Alsa 1.0.17 so presumably this problem has been resolved. The change log (only says *Add support for LG S1 laptop* and then later A*dded the model entry for LG S1 laptop*. This fills me with hope but no where (that I can see) does it say what that model entry is. I know that this has to go into my alsa-base file but what is the model entry to use? Perhaps I am not reading the change log correctly? Can someone help me out here? Perhaps I can email one of the developers? So close and yet so far Best regards, Daren Krive -- ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
[Alsa-user] No sound on LG-S1 QB01A9
Hi everyone, Sorry in advance if this type of question does not belong on this list. I am new to this. I have never been able to get sound working properly on my laptop under *any * Linux distro. I have the LG S1 (model QB01A9). The sound works fine on the headphone jack but not on the internal speakers. I have read tonnes of suggestions with similar problems but none of the suggestions has worked for me. I have an hda-intel sound card. After much digging I think I am finally on to something. I found on the alsa-project.org site that support for the LG S1 laptop was added between versions 1.0.11 and 1.0.12. You can see the change log here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.11_v1.0.12 Ubuntu 8.10 has Alsa 1.0.17 so presumably this problem has been resolved. The change log (only says *Add support for LG S1 laptop* and then later A *dded the model entry for LG S1 laptop*. This fills me with hope but no where (that I can see) does it say what that model entry is. I know that this has to go into my alsa-base file but what is the model entry to use? Perhaps I am not reading the change log correctly? Can someone help me out here? Perhaps I can email one of the developers? So close and yet so far Best regards, Daren Krive -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
