Re: [Alsa-user] choice of a new soundcard
Vedran Miletić wrote: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/audio/controllers/envy24/ Claims that it has 20-channel, 26-bit wide built in mixer. What does that mean? The chip plays 10 channels in parallel (8 analog, 2 digital) and records 12 channels in parallel (8 analog, 2 digital, 2 monitoring). The two monitoring channels result from mixing together the other 20 channels. This is not the usual hardware mixing scenario because we don't have several independent stereo streams, and the mixing result does not go to the speaker outputs. Regards, Clemens - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] choice of a new soundcard
Thanks for clarification. There was a post on a forum (can't remember where) that claimed that Envy24 supported HW mixing, but not in ALSA. So, that means that ALSA already fully supports Envy24 or not? 2008/10/28 Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vedran Miletić wrote: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/audio/controllers/envy24/ Claims that it has 20-channel, 26-bit wide built in mixer. What does that mean? The chip plays 10 channels in parallel (8 analog, 2 digital) and records 12 channels in parallel (8 analog, 2 digital, 2 monitoring). The two monitoring channels result from mixing together the other 20 channels. This is not the usual hardware mixing scenario because we don't have several independent stereo streams, and the mixing result does not go to the speaker outputs. Regards, Clemens -- Vedran Miletić - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] choice of a new soundcard
At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:44:19 +0100, =?UTF-8?Q?Vedran_Mileti=C4=87?= wrote: Thanks for clarification. There was a post on a forum (can't remember where) that claimed that Envy24 supported HW mixing, but not in ALSA. So, that means that ALSA already fully supports Envy24 or not? Yep. Simply it's a different meaning of hw-mixing on envy24. Takashi 2008/10/28 Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vedran Miletić wrote: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/audio/controllers/envy24/ Claims that it has 20-channel, 26-bit wide built in mixer. What does that mean? The chip plays 10 channels in parallel (8 analog, 2 digital) and records 12 channels in parallel (8 analog, 2 digital, 2 monitoring). The two monitoring channels result from mixing together the other 20 channels. This is not the usual hardware mixing scenario because we don't have several independent stereo streams, and the mixing result does not go to the speaker outputs. Regards, Clemens -- Vedran Miletić - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] choice of a new soundcard
Vedran Miletić wrote: Drivers that support hardware mixing: * snd_emu10k1 - ... * snd_cs46xx - ... * snd_au88x0 - ... * snd_ymfpci - for YMF7xx chips. Like most of the others, has been discontinued and must be bought used. Used on several cards, e.g., Hoontech SoundTrack Digital XG (most of those cards have XG in their name). If you want a supported wavetable synthesizer, get a SB Live! or Audigy. If you want to do bit-exact recording from the SPDIF input, get a YMF754B-based card. Otherwise, the chip doesn't matter. Not sure about: * snd_ice1712 Does _not_ support hardware mixing. Hardware does support it, and it did work on Windows. The Windows driver, like the drivers of most other cards, claims to support multiple streams and does software mixing in the driver itself instead of letting Windows do the mixing. Since Windows assumes that no driver would do such a silly thing, the driver shows up as supports hardware mixing. HTH Clemens - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] choice of a new soundcard
http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/audio/controllers/envy24/ Claims that it has 20-channel, 26-bit wide built in mixer. What does that mean? 2008/10/27 Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vedran Miletić wrote: Drivers that support hardware mixing: * snd_emu10k1 - ... * snd_cs46xx - ... * snd_au88x0 - ... * snd_ymfpci - for YMF7xx chips. Like most of the others, has been discontinued and must be bought used. Used on several cards, e.g., Hoontech SoundTrack Digital XG (most of those cards have XG in their name). If you want a supported wavetable synthesizer, get a SB Live! or Audigy. If you want to do bit-exact recording from the SPDIF input, get a YMF754B-based card. Otherwise, the chip doesn't matter. Not sure about: * snd_ice1712 Does _not_ support hardware mixing. Hardware does support it, and it did work on Windows. The Windows driver, like the drivers of most other cards, claims to support multiple streams and does software mixing in the driver itself instead of letting Windows do the mixing. Since Windows assumes that no driver would do such a silly thing, the driver shows up as supports hardware mixing. HTH Clemens -- Vedran Miletić - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
Re: [Alsa-user] choice of a new soundcard
Drivers that support hardware mixing: * snd_emu10k1 - SB Live! and SB Audigy cards, some E-mu cards. If you want a high quality card, you might look into used 0404 PCI (_new_ revision, old one doesn't work with ALSA), you should be able to get a used one for 60$ since new one is 100$. Also, if you can get E-mu APS, that card is the bomb. And it's really cheap nowadays. * snd_cs46xx - those are really cheap. Driver works quite well. I have TerraTec DMX Xfire 1024, but there were also SiXPack 5.1 and Hercules Fortissimo II and Fortissimo III 7.1. Probably some other. Even Windows drivers are interchangable between these cards, since there is probably just one reference design. * snd_au88x0 - Vortex cards. Have hardware mixing. Driver hasn't been touched for years. Not sure how well it works, as I never tried it. Would love to have one of these cards around, though. You might find some of these cards really cheap. Not sure about: * snd_ice1712 - I used to have DMX 6fire. I remember being able to play more than one sound at the time, but I don't remember if card had hardware mixing supported by ALSA. Hardware does support it, and it did work on Windows. Please check. Those cards should also be really cheap nowadays, just try to not get something that is ICE1724-based since this is a totally different story. You can check out this table: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Tag-HWMIX 2008/10/26 Anigel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am really tired to fight against old oss-compliant software, and problems with software mixing got me tired over the past years : I decided to buy a new card. So, I have several choices : ebay of course, or get a fresh new card. But i am not very competent in such devices, and, before making a bad choice, I prefer to ask you : which device should I choose ? At the moment I am using a PCI Audigy LS *and* my integrated AC97 chip. I saw on ebay devices like SB Live! 5.1, or Audigy 2 ZS. Both seem to be well-supported in ALSA... And I don't know at all other audio manufacturers. I only need a well-supported chip, with hardware mixing. So, please, if you have any advice to help me buy a well supported device (60 $ max), feel free to answer. Thanks ;). - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user -- Vedran Miletić - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user
