strange dumperror message

2004-02-27 Thread pascal thomas
what does this mean?
you can´t update the dumpdates file when dumping a subdirectory




Re: strange dumperror message

2004-02-27 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 at 3:55pm, pascal thomas wrote

 what does this mean?
 you can´t update the dumpdates file when dumping a subdirectory
 
You're using dump and your disklist entry is not a partition.  You can't 
do it.  Either dump partitions only or use tar.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University



Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Allen Liu --- work
Just repost because I dodn't get any respose.
Is it true that amdump won't go on if tape device is not ready ?

Thanks

Allen Liu

IP Application Design and Engineering
Bell Canada
(613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4

- Original Message - 
From: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: ? holding disk contents


 Hi all,

 I ma trying to see what holding disk contents look like.
 My changer script is chg-manual. The drive didn't have tape in.
 When I ran amdump, it asked for putting tape in. at this moment I check my
 holding disk directory, it has timestamp but no contents. Does it suppose
to
 have some data in holding disk ? is this situation so-callled downgrade
mode
 ?


 Thanks

 Allen Liu

 IP Application Design and Engineering
 Bell Canada
 (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4





Re: Problems with amrecover

2004-02-27 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 at 8:34pm, Thomas Jones wrote

 Here is an example:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _root]# zmore 20040226_0.gz
 -- 20040226_0.gz --
 /

Well, bugger, those look alright.  That was my best idea, too.

What are the permissions on those directories and the files?

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University


Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Frank Smith
--On Friday, February 27, 2004 11:31:11 -0500 Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Just repost because I dodn't get any respose.
 Is it true that amdump won't go on if tape device is not ready ?

I haven't used chg-manual, but I assume it sits there waiting for
you to put in a tape and say its ready.
   However, if you have adequate holdingdisk space, it could still
do incrementals (and fulls if reserve isn't set too low) to disk,
although perhaps it is waiting on the manual input before deciding
on whether to run in normal or degraded mode.


Frank

 
 Thanks
 
 Allen Liu
 
 IP Application Design and Engineering
 Bell Canada
 (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:01 PM
 Subject: ? holding disk contents
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I ma trying to see what holding disk contents look like.
 My changer script is chg-manual. The drive didn't have tape in.
 When I ran amdump, it asked for putting tape in. at this moment I check my
 holding disk directory, it has timestamp but no contents. Does it suppose
 to
 have some data in holding disk ? is this situation so-callled downgrade
 mode
 ?
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Allen Liu
 
 IP Application Design and Engineering
 Bell Canada
 (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
 
 



-- 
Frank Smith  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sr. Systems Administrator   Voice: 512-374-4673
Hoover's Online   Fax: 512-374-4501



Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Allen Liu --- work


Thanks,, Frank.
How to force it to run in downgrade mode ?

Allen Liu

IP Application Design and Engineering
Bell Canada
(613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents


 --On Friday, February 27, 2004 11:31:11 -0500 Allen Liu --- work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Just repost because I dodn't get any respose.
  Is it true that amdump won't go on if tape device is not ready ?

 I haven't used chg-manual, but I assume it sits there waiting for
 you to put in a tape and say its ready.
However, if you have adequate holdingdisk space, it could still
 do incrementals (and fulls if reserve isn't set too low) to disk,
 although perhaps it is waiting on the manual input before deciding
 on whether to run in normal or degraded mode.


 Frank

 
  Thanks
 
  Allen Liu
 
  IP Application Design and Engineering
  Bell Canada
  (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:01 PM
  Subject: ? holding disk contents
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  I ma trying to see what holding disk contents look like.
  My changer script is chg-manual. The drive didn't have tape in.
  When I ran amdump, it asked for putting tape in. at this moment I check
my
  holding disk directory, it has timestamp but no contents. Does it
suppose
  to
  have some data in holding disk ? is this situation so-callled downgrade
  mode
  ?
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Allen Liu
 
  IP Application Design and Engineering
  Bell Canada
  (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
 
 



 -- 
 Frank Smith  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sr. Systems Administrator   Voice: 512-374-4673
 Hoover's Online   Fax: 512-374-4501




Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 12:49:16PM -0500, Allen Liu --- work wrote:
 
 
 Thanks,, Frank.
 How to force it to run in downgrade mode ?
 
 Allen Liu
 
 IP Application Design and Engineering
 Bell Canada
 (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents
 
 
  --On Friday, February 27, 2004 11:31:11 -0500 Allen Liu --- work
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Just repost because I dodn't get any respose.
   Is it true that amdump won't go on if tape device is not ready ?
 
  I haven't used chg-manual, but I assume it sits there waiting for
  you to put in a tape and say its ready.
 However, if you have adequate holdingdisk space, it could still
  do incrementals (and fulls if reserve isn't set too low) to disk,
  although perhaps it is waiting on the manual input before deciding
  on whether to run in normal or degraded mode.
 
 
  Frank
 
  
   Thanks
  
   Allen Liu
  
   IP Application Design and Engineering
   Bell Canada
   (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:01 PM
   Subject: ? holding disk contents
  
  
   Hi all,
  
   I ma trying to see what holding disk contents look like.
   My changer script is chg-manual. The drive didn't have tape in.
   When I ran amdump, it asked for putting tape in. at this moment I check
 my
   holding disk directory, it has timestamp but no contents. Does it
 suppose
   to
   have some data in holding disk ? is this situation so-callled downgrade
   mode
   ?
  
  
   Thanks
  
   Allen Liu

Not sure anyone has ever wanted to before.

Degraded mode is a mode where no level 0, full dumps,
are performed.  Only incrementals are done.  Of course
it is not possible to do incrementals only on new,
never dumped, DLE's.  They must get a level 0 first.

I guess, if you really wanted to mimic degraded mode
you could set the dumptype options like increment only
or strategy no-full.  I forget the actual names.

Why do you want to force degraded mode?

Have you checked your holding disk for size, permissions,
and the amanda.conf parameter reserve?  It defaults to
100% (i.e. 100% for degraded mode, none for normal mode)
which doesn't sound like what you want.

-- 
Jon H. LaBadie  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JG Computing
 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159
 Princeton, NJ  08540-4322  (609) 683-7220 (fax)


Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Allen Liu --- work


Thanks Jon.
I just want to see in case tape drive is not available for some reasons, if
amanda can store data in holding disk temparily.
My machine works find for normal backup, but i couldn't see data in holding
disk.

Allen Liu


- Original Message - 
From: Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents


 On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 12:49:16PM -0500, Allen Liu --- work wrote:
 
 
  Thanks,, Frank.
  How to force it to run in downgrade mode ?
 
  Allen Liu
 
  IP Application Design and Engineering
  Bell Canada
  (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents
 
 
   --On Friday, February 27, 2004 11:31:11 -0500 Allen Liu --- work
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Just repost because I dodn't get any respose.
Is it true that amdump won't go on if tape device is not ready ?
  
   I haven't used chg-manual, but I assume it sits there waiting for
   you to put in a tape and say its ready.
  However, if you have adequate holdingdisk space, it could still
   do incrementals (and fulls if reserve isn't set too low) to disk,
   although perhaps it is waiting on the manual input before deciding
   on whether to run in normal or degraded mode.
  
  
   Frank
  
   
Thanks
   
Allen Liu
   
IP Application Design and Engineering
Bell Canada
(613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
   
- Original Message - 
From: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: ? holding disk contents
   
   
Hi all,
   
I ma trying to see what holding disk contents look like.
My changer script is chg-manual. The drive didn't have tape in.
When I ran amdump, it asked for putting tape in. at this moment I
check
  my
holding disk directory, it has timestamp but no contents. Does it
  suppose
to
have some data in holding disk ? is this situation so-callled
downgrade
mode
?
   
   
Thanks
   
Allen Liu

 Not sure anyone has ever wanted to before.

 Degraded mode is a mode where no level 0, full dumps,
 are performed.  Only incrementals are done.  Of course
 it is not possible to do incrementals only on new,
 never dumped, DLE's.  They must get a level 0 first.

 I guess, if you really wanted to mimic degraded mode
 you could set the dumptype options like increment only
 or strategy no-full.  I forget the actual names.

 Why do you want to force degraded mode?

 Have you checked your holding disk for size, permissions,
 and the amanda.conf parameter reserve?  It defaults to
 100% (i.e. 100% for degraded mode, none for normal mode)
 which doesn't sound like what you want.

 -- 
 Jon H. LaBadie  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  JG Computing
  4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159
  Princeton, NJ  08540-4322  (609) 683-7220 (fax)




Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Allen,

on Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 at 20:05 you wrote to amanda-users:

ALw Thanks Jon.
ALw I just want to see in case tape drive is not available for some reasons, if
ALw amanda can store data in holding disk temparily.
ALw My machine works find for normal backup, but i couldn't see data in holding
ALw disk.

Do you use the option holdingdisk yes in your dumptypes?

-- 
best regards,
Stefan

Stefan G. Weichinger
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Allen Liu --- work
yes, I did.

Thanks

Allen Liu

IP Application Design and Engineering
Bell Canada
(613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4

- Original Message - 
From: Stefan G. Weichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents


 Hi, Allen,

 on Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 at 20:05 you wrote to amanda-users:

 ALw Thanks Jon.
 ALw I just want to see in case tape drive is not available for some
reasons, if
 ALw amanda can store data in holding disk temparily.
 ALw My machine works find for normal backup, but i couldn't see data in
holding
 ALw disk.

 Do you use the option holdingdisk yes in your dumptypes?

 -- 
 best regards,
 Stefan

 Stefan G. Weichinger
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]









Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents

2004-02-27 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 02:05:15PM -0500, Allen Liu --- work wrote:
 
 
 Thanks Jon.
 I just want to see in case tape drive is not available for some reasons, if
 amanda can store data in holding disk temparily.
 My machine works find for normal backup, but i couldn't see data in holding
 disk.
 
 Allen Liu
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jon LaBadie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 12:49:16PM -0500, Allen Liu --- work wrote:
  
  
   Thanks,, Frank.
   How to force it to run in downgrade mode ?
  
   Allen Liu
  
   IP Application Design and Engineering
   Bell Canada
   (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Frank Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:54 AM
   Subject: Re: Repost: ? holding disk contents
  
  
--On Friday, February 27, 2004 11:31:11 -0500 Allen Liu --- work
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Just repost because I dodn't get any respose.
 Is it true that amdump won't go on if tape device is not ready ?
   
I haven't used chg-manual, but I assume it sits there waiting for
you to put in a tape and say its ready.
   However, if you have adequate holdingdisk space, it could still
do incrementals (and fulls if reserve isn't set too low) to disk,
although perhaps it is waiting on the manual input before deciding
on whether to run in normal or degraded mode.
   
   
Frank
   

 Thanks

 Allen Liu

 IP Application Design and Engineering
 Bell Canada
 (613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4

 - Original Message - 
 From: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:01 PM
 Subject: ? holding disk contents


 Hi all,

 I ma trying to see what holding disk contents look like.
 My changer script is chg-manual. The drive didn't have tape in.
 When I ran amdump, it asked for putting tape in. at this moment I
 check
   my
 holding disk directory, it has timestamp but no contents. Does it
   suppose
 to
 have some data in holding disk ? is this situation so-callled
 downgrade
 mode
 ?


 Thanks

 Allen Liu
 
  Not sure anyone has ever wanted to before.
 
  Degraded mode is a mode where no level 0, full dumps,
  are performed.  Only incrementals are done.  Of course
  it is not possible to do incrementals only on new,
  never dumped, DLE's.  They must get a level 0 first.
 
  I guess, if you really wanted to mimic degraded mode
  you could set the dumptype options like increment only
  or strategy no-full.  I forget the actual names.
 
  Why do you want to force degraded mode?
 
  Have you checked your holding disk for size, permissions,
  and the amanda.conf parameter reserve?  It defaults to
  100% (i.e. 100% for degraded mode, none for normal mode)
  which doesn't sound like what you want.
 

Degraded mode does not equate to being no tape available.
I forgot to change my six tape cartridge a little while ago.
Yet 5 days of backups collected normally, not degraded, in
my holding disk spaces (plural).

Degraded mode is not able to tape AND insufficient holding
disk space for level 0 dumps.  Both conditions must exist.

Now, why aren't you seeing anything in your holding disk?

-- 
Jon H. LaBadie  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 JG Computing
 4455 Province Line Road(609) 252-0159
 Princeton, NJ  08540-4322  (609) 683-7220 (fax)


Re: Problems with amrecover

2004-02-27 Thread Thomas Jones
I thought that as well and changed permissions to 777, still no joy.

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 16:35, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 at 8:34pm, Thomas Jones wrote
 
  Here is an example:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] _root]# zmore 20040226_0.gz
  -- 20040226_0.gz --
  /
 
 Well, bugger, those look alright.  That was my best idea, too.
 
 What are the permissions on those directories and the files?