Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Michael,

on Montag, 08. März 2004 at 06:10 you wrote to amanda-users:

MDS Amanda 2.4.4p1
MDS Debian Linux

MDS I finally took the plunge yesterday, and upgraded my last system to
MDS kernel 2.6.3.

MDS What do you think?

Just for the records:

I compiled and ran various versions and snapshots of AMANDA on all
Linux-kernels since 2.5.79 on my testbox. No problems.

Right now I have 2.6.4-rc2 up, with AMANDA 2.4.5b1 on it, running
fine.

As Frank said, it is likely that you miss a module.
How did you configure 2.6.3? A good start would be to take the config
of your 2.4.25, make oldconfig and start testing with this.

After that you can still try to add/remove features from you kernel.

Can you access your 2.6.3-tape-device via mt or create archives on it
with tar?

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best regards,
Stefan

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Re: Strange DNS lookup problems ... I think ...

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Geoff,

on Montag, 08. März 2004 at 00:26 you wrote to amanda-users:

GS Here's the output from the weekend:

GS Subject:schedule6 AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR March 5, 2004
GSDate: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:11:03 +1100 (EST)
GSFrom:Amanda Archiving Server [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GS  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In your first email you wrote:

 The amanda
 host machine is windamere

Why does your report come from dipnr.nsw.gov.au then?

GS These dumps were to tape schedule6-WEEK2.
GS The next tape Amanda expects to use is: schedule6-WEEK3.

GS FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
GS   intrap /htdocs lev 0 FAILED [ [host
GS windamere.dlwc.nsw.gov.au: hostname
GS lookup failed]]

Please show us your disklist entry for this one.

GS NOTES:
GS   planner: tapecycle (6) = runspercycle (6)

You added two tapes, but you still have these two parameters on the
same value. tapecycle should be BIGGER THAN runspercycle.

GS   planner: Last full dump of intrap:/htdocs on tape  overwritten in 1 run.

Lost your last full dump here ...

GS intrap   /appl   0 12363201236320   --3:395636.7  6:493020.1
GS intrap   /htdocs 0 FAILED
GS ---

As one DLE works and another on the same host does not work, it is
very likely that the setup of the DLE is not right.

Show us your disklist and the relevant dumptypes.
Did this one ever work?
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Stefan

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Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 at 11:10pm, Michael D Schleif wrote

 Amanda 2.4.4p1
 Debian Linux
 
 I finally took the plunge yesterday, and upgraded my last system to
 kernel 2.6.3.
 
 Unfortunately, this is my amanda backup server, and under this kernel it
 no longer communicates with /dev/nst0:
 
# sudo mt -f /dev/nst0 offline
mt: No such device. Cannot open '/dev/nst0'.

In addition to making sure st is available, doesn't 2.6 also have a device 
mapper (like devfs, but not) available?  Did you compile that in, which 
would have the result of putting /dev/nst0 somewhere else (like 
/dev/tape/0 or something like that)?

Just guessing -- I haven't played with 2.6 yet.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University


Re: CHS tape robot management software

2004-03-08 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 at 5:06pm, Geoff Swavley wrote

 Does anyone have the CHS source (I would not ask normally but my
 vendor is unable to supply it). This is what I have:

It seems to me that now would be a good time to look into alternative 
methods of controlling the robot.  Check out mtx (and thus chg-zd-mtx), 
and/or look into chg-scsi.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University


Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Michael D Schleif
* Joshua Baker-LePain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004:03:08:08:18:07-0500] scribed:
 On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 at 11:10pm, Michael D Schleif wrote
 
  Amanda 2.4.4p1
  Debian Linux
  
  I finally took the plunge yesterday, and upgraded my last system to
  kernel 2.6.3.
  
  Unfortunately, this is my amanda backup server, and under this kernel it
  no longer communicates with /dev/nst0:
  
 # sudo mt -f /dev/nst0 offline
 mt: No such device. Cannot open '/dev/nst0'.
 
 In addition to making sure st is available, doesn't 2.6 also have a device 
 mapper (like devfs, but not) available?  Did you compile that in, which 
 would have the result of putting /dev/nst0 somewhere else (like 
 /dev/tape/0 or something like that)?

Yes, that's what I'm guessing.  I had to add two (2) modules to get my
mouse working under X11.  So far, I haven't found reference to anything
similar for st . . .

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Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Michael D Schleif
* Michael D Schleif [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004:03:07:23:10:40-0600] scribed:
snip /
 Unfortunately, this is my amanda backup server, and under this kernel it
 no longer communicates with /dev/nst0:
 
# sudo mt -f /dev/nst0 offline
mt: No such device. Cannot open '/dev/nst0'.
 
 Everything else appears to work as expected.  I didn't notice this tape
 problem until this morning, I saw the backup was stuck on holdingdisk.
 
 Running following results in `0' tape devices found:
 
# sudo /etc/init.d/mt-st modload
 
 Regardless of kernel, I see this:
 
# cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model: C1537A   Rev: L812
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
. . .
 
 Now, after reboot back into 2.4.25, /dev/nst0 is working fine, and I am
 flushing last night's backup to tape as I compose this.
snip /


* Stefan G. Weichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004:03:08:10:12:46+0100] scribed:
 Hi, Michael,
 
 on Montag, 08. März 2004 at 06:10 you wrote to amanda-users:
 
 MDS Amanda 2.4.4p1
 MDS Debian Linux
 
 MDS I finally took the plunge yesterday, and upgraded my last system to
 MDS kernel 2.6.3.
 
 MDS What do you think?
 
 Just for the records:
 
 I compiled and ran various versions and snapshots of AMANDA on all
 Linux-kernels since 2.5.79 on my testbox. No problems.
 
 Right now I have 2.6.4-rc2 up, with AMANDA 2.4.5b1 on it, running
 fine.
 
 As Frank said, it is likely that you miss a module.
 How did you configure 2.6.3? A good start would be to take the config
 of your 2.4.25, make oldconfig and start testing with this.

I am using the stock Debian kernel:

   kernel-image-2.6.3-1-686

From config-2.6.3-1-686:

   #
   # SCSI device support
   #
   CONFIG_SCSI=m
   CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y

   #
   # SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
   #
   CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST=m
   CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
   # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m

   #
   # Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
   #
   CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
   # CONFIG_SCSI_REPORT_LUNS is not set
   CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y
   CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING=y


From config-2.4.25-1-686:

   #
   # SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
   #
   CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
   CONFIG_SD_EXTRA_DEVS=40
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST=m
   CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
   # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR is not set
   CONFIG_SR_EXTRA_DEVS=2
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SCH=m
   CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m

   #
   # Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
   #
   # CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG_QUEUES is not set
   CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
   CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS=y
   CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING=y

What am I missing?

 After that you can still try to add/remove features from you kernel.
 
 Can you access your 2.6.3-tape-device via mt or create archives on it
 with tar?

That's the point, I cannot (see above).

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Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Michael,

on Montag, 08. März 2004 at 15:39 you wrote to amanda-users:

MDS * Joshua Baker-LePain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDS [2004:03:08:08:18:07-0500] scribed:

 In addition to making sure st is available, doesn't 2.6 also have a device
 mapper (like devfs, but not) available?  Did you compile that in, which
 would have the result of putting /dev/nst0 somewhere else (like 
 /dev/tape/0 or something like that)?

MDS Yes, that's what I'm guessing.  I had to add two (2) modules to get my
MDS mouse working under X11.  So far, I haven't found reference to anything
MDS similar for st . . .

As I said before, try to make your 2.4-config first. You also have to
adjust your modutils and such, but this is off-topic here.
-- 
best regards,
Stefan

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Re: Solaris 8 and L200

2004-03-08 Thread Glenn Zenker
I'm running Solaris 8, a Powerstor L200 with Amanda version 2.4.4p2.  I 
compiled the software on the machine.  It is a scsi tape changer.

Thanks

Christoph Scheeder wrote:
Hi,
first: please keep this task on the list, it gives other people the
posibility to jump in and correct me if i tell you something wrong
I guess this is a scsi-tapechanger, correct? then you have a few
possibilities to get the robot moving:
chg-scsi, mtx, and possibly more, i don't know all the free available 
tools to make tape robots move, espacialy for solaris as i am using
linux on all my servers and i opperate my tapechanger all with chg-scsi.

so now we are at the point where one of the solaris-people here on the
list should jump in to help you further, but the need a little more info
on your problem likthe exact type of your changer, which version of
amanda you use, if you compiled it your self etc.
Christoph

Glenn Zenker schrieb:

Thanks, that is a big help!  I'll switch to another script and see 
what happens.

Do you know if Amanda can move the robot??  Currently, the only 
software we have works through a webpage.

Thanks,

Glenn

Christoph Scheeder wrote:

Hi,
You have configured amanda to use chg-multi as changer script.
i don't think this is what you want. chg-multi is used with
multiple tapedrives to form a virtual tape-robot.
use one of the other chg-scripts, depending on which software
you use to move your robot.
Christoph
Glenn Zenker schrieb:

I have amanda installed when I run the following command as the user 
amanda

/usr/local/sbin/amverify DailySet1 0

I get this:

Tapes:
Errors found:
amtape: could not load slot 1: chg-multi: slot is empty
amverify DailySet1
Thu Mar  4 13:18:52 EST 2004
Loading 1 slot...
** Error loading slot 1
amtape: could not load slot 1: chg-multi: slot is empty
If anyone can lend a hand with how they configured their L200, that 
would be greatly appreciated.












Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Hi, Michael,

on Montag, 08. März 2004 at 15:48 you wrote to amanda-users:

MDS I am using the stock Debian kernel:

MDSkernel-image-2.6.3-1-686

MDS From config-2.6.3-1-686:

MDS#
MDS# SCSI device support
MDS#
MDSCONFIG_SCSI=m
MDSCONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y

MDS#
MDS# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
MDS#
MDSCONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
MDSCONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
 ...

MDS What am I missing?

Maybe you don't have the right modutils installed. The format of
modules has changed with 2.6, so you need other tools for using and
handling them.

Are you able to do a modprobe scsi in your 2.6-environment?

Do the commands modprobe, lsmod, rmmod work there?

-- 
best regards,
Stefan

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Re: Solaris 8 and L200

2004-03-08 Thread Alastair Neil
I don't have an L200 I have an L9 and I'm running Solaris 9, but I 
assume the setup will be pretty much the same.  I use mtx-1.3.8, I don't 
recall where I downloaded it from however a google search should pick it 
up easely. You must make sure the sgen driver is configured in your 
kernel so check /kernel/drv/sgen.conf, this should give you an entry in 
/dev/scsi/changer, mine is:

c3t0d0 - ../../../devices/[EMAIL PROTECTED],4000/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:changer

A search of the archives turned up a number of scripts which purport to 
work with amanda and mtx, I picked the one that seemed to have been 
modified most recently: mtx-changer.  I have attached my copy with my 
configuration. 

I amanda.conf I have the following:

tpchanger mtx-changer # the tape-changer glue script
tapedev /dev/rmt/0hn  # the no-rewind tape device to be used
rawtapedev /dev/null  # the raw device to be used (ftape only)
changerfile 
changerdev /dev/scsi/changer/c3t0d0


the mtx-changer script itself resides in /usr/local/libexec.

hope this helps.

rgds Alastair



Christoph Scheeder wrote:

Hi,
first: please keep this task on the list, it gives other people the
posibility to jump in and correct me if i tell you something wrong
I guess this is a scsi-tapechanger, correct? then you have a few
possibilities to get the robot moving:
chg-scsi, mtx, and possibly more, i don't know all the free available 
tools to make tape robots move, espacialy for solaris as i am using
linux on all my servers and i opperate my tapechanger all with chg-scsi.

so now we are at the point where one of the solaris-people here on the
list should jump in to help you further, but the need a little more info
on your problem likthe exact type of your changer, which version of
amanda you use, if you compiled it your self etc.
Christoph

Glenn Zenker schrieb:

Thanks, that is a big help!  I'll switch to another script and see 
what happens.

Do you know if Amanda can move the robot??  Currently, the only 
software we have works through a webpage.

Thanks,

Glenn

Christoph Scheeder wrote:

Hi,
You have configured amanda to use chg-multi as changer script.
i don't think this is what you want. chg-multi is used with
multiple tapedrives to form a virtual tape-robot.
use one of the other chg-scripts, depending on which software
you use to move your robot.
Christoph
Glenn Zenker schrieb:

I have amanda installed when I run the following command as the 
user amanda

/usr/local/sbin/amverify DailySet1 0

I get this:

Tapes:
Errors found:
amtape: could not load slot 1: chg-multi: slot is empty
amverify DailySet1
Thu Mar  4 13:18:52 EST 2004
Loading 1 slot...
** Error loading slot 1
amtape: could not load slot 1: chg-multi: slot is empty
If anyone can lend a hand with how they configured their L200, that 
would be greatly appreciated.









#! /bin/sh
###
# AMANDA Tape Changer script for use with the MTX tape changer program
# Version 1.1 - Wed Mar  7 16:50:05 CST 2001
# 
# Based on 'stc-changer' by Eric Berggren ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
# Updated by Tim Skirvin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
# 
# Given that there's no license...let's make this the Perl Artistic License.
# Just make sure you give me and Eric credit if you modify this.  
###

### USER CONFIGURATION
# Name of the tape drive (takes place of tapedev option in amanda.conf)
#  and default driver number in library (usu 0) that DRIVE_NAME points to
DRIVE_NAME=/dev/rmt/0hn   # /dev/rmt/0n ?
DRIVE_NUM=0

# Location of STC command and control device
MTX_CMD=/usr/local/sbin/mtx;
MTX_CONTROL=/dev/scsi/changer/c3t0d0;

# Whether tape drive must eject tape before changer retrieves
#  (ie, EXB-2x0). Usually okay if set while not necessary, bad if
#  required but not set.
DRIVE_MUST_EJECT=1

# How long to check drive readiness (in seconds) after mounting (or
#  ejecting) a volume (on some libraries, the motion or eject command may
#  complete before the drive has the volume fully mounted and online,
#  or ready for retrieval, resulting in Drive not ready/Media not
#  ready errors). Do an mt status command every 5 seconds upto this
#  time.
DRIVE_READY_TIME_MAX=60

#  tape mt command location...
MT_CMD=/usr/bin/mt # called via MT_CMD -f DRIVE_NAME rewind 
 #   MT_CMD -f DRIVE_NAME offline to eject
 # and MT_CMD -f DRIVE_NAME status to get ready info

##
#
NumDrives=-1
NumSlots=-1
LastSlot=-1
LoadedTape=-1

#
# Usage information
#
usage()
{
echo
echo Usage: $Progname command [arg...]
echo   -info  reports capability and loaded tape
echo   -slot slot   loads specified tape into drive
echo current  reports current mounted tape
echo next loads logically next tape (loops to 

User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Bentley
Currently running Amanda for backups of desktop shares.  The problem we 
come across is amount of tape used by certain individuals (mostly of the 
'managerial persuasion').  We have asked these individuals to limit the 
size of data kept in their shares many times, but they always 'creep up' 
above this size, to the point that they start affecting the other backups, 
come their rotation for a full backup.

Is there any way to put a 'size cap' on the amount of data being backed up 
from one particular source (or -all- sources, at that)?  There's a big 
difference between 'Could you keep the size of the share you want backed 
up to X?' and 'There is a limit to back up sizes of X.  Anything you have 
above this WILL NOT be backed up...'

-- 
Daniel Bentley - Network Technician, QSI Corporation (www.qsicorp.com)
Exploits care not whence the clicks come...


Re: User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 at 11:29am, Daniel Bentley wrote

 Currently running Amanda for backups of desktop shares.  The problem we 
 come across is amount of tape used by certain individuals (mostly of the 
 'managerial persuasion').  We have asked these individuals to limit the 
 size of data kept in their shares many times, but they always 'creep up' 
 above this size, to the point that they start affecting the other backups, 
 come their rotation for a full backup.
 
 Is there any way to put a 'size cap' on the amount of data being backed up 
 from one particular source (or -all- sources, at that)?  There's a big 
 difference between 'Could you keep the size of the share you want backed 
 up to X?' and 'There is a limit to back up sizes of X.  Anything you have 
 above this WILL NOT be backed up...'

Sounds like a job for quotas to me.  I can't really think of a way of 
enforcing this with amanda.

-- 
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University


Re: User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Patrick Michael Kane
* Joshua Baker-LePain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040308 11:48]:
 On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 at 11:29am, Daniel Bentley wrote
  Is there any way to put a 'size cap' on the amount of data being backed up 
  from one particular source (or -all- sources, at that)?  There's a big 
  difference between 'Could you keep the size of the share you want backed 
  up to X?' and 'There is a limit to back up sizes of X.  Anything you have 
  above this WILL NOT be backed up...'
 
 Sounds like a job for quotas to me.  I can't really think of a way of 
 enforcing this with amanda.

The only thing I could suggest would be dynamically generating an
excludes file on the target based on disk space utilization.

Not exactly built-in to amanda, but a little less harsh than quotas
(although I wouldn't want to be the system administrator (or his boss)
when one of the managerial types loses a file and can't get it
back...).

Best,
-- 
Patrick Michael Kane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: User size caps

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Bentley
 Isn't this situation better suited by implementing disk quota ?

Unfortunately, the sources in question are Windows shares based on desktop 
machines.  Hence our real, 'direct' control is limited to the server side 
(via. some kind of 'size throttling' through Amanda and/or SMB), or in 
creating a special 'shared backup partition' on each machine, size 
regulation coming from the physical size of the partition.  The idea of 
'size throttling' would be much more dynamic than physical partitions, but 
it's the 'kludgibility' of such that doesn't look too promising thusfar...

-- 
Daniel Bentley - Network Technician, QSI Corporation (www.qsicorp.com)
Exploits care not whence the clicks come...


[Solved]Re: Resend: ? path of config file for amrecover

2004-03-08 Thread Allen Liu --- work
I finally figure our the cause of the problem is that in /etc/inetd.conf,
the entries there still pointed to old location. So each time amrecover
started, inetd triggered the old daemon so that it tried to find something
in old directories.


Thanks so much.

Allen Liu

IP Application Design and Engineering
Bell Canada
(613) 781-7368, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1240 -160 Elgin St, Ottawa,ON, K2P 2C4

- Original Message - 
From: Christoph Scheeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Paul Bijnens [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: Resend: ? path of config file for amrecover


 Hi,
 i'll bet you have at least 2 versions of amrecover lying around on your
 system, and  the first one it finds in the path is the old one...
 if you change the install-path you'll be responsible for deleting the
 old installation, make install can't do that for you
 Christoph

 Allen Liu --- work schrieb:

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Bijnens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Allen Liu --- work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Resend: ? path of config file for amrecover
 
 
 
 Allen Liu --- work wrote:
 
 
 Just resend since I haven't heard anything back on it.
 
 I installed amanda in my Solaris box with configuration 'snd' like :
 /myapp/am1/etc/amanda/snd
 
 But when I run amrecover , it tried to  to search config file from my
 
  old
 
 installation path /myapp/am/etc/amanda ( see below), it ceitainly
 
  failed.
 
 I wonder why it tried that way ? and how to make it search my new
 installation location ?
 
 If you change the install path, you'll have to recompile.
 
  Yes, I re-did everything : configure/make/make install. But it still
behaves
  like this.
  I will try to delete everything and reinstall it. I just wonder why.
 
 -- 
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 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-3001 Leuven, BELGIUMFax  +32 16 397.512
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 * I think I've got the hang of it now:  exit, ^D, ^C, ^\, ^Z, ^Q, F6, *
 * quit,  ZZ, :q, :q!,  M-Z, ^X^C,  logoff, logout, close, bye,  /bye, *
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Re: kernels v2.6.x vs. /dev/nst0 ???

2004-03-08 Thread Michael D Schleif
* Stefan G. Weichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004:03:08:16:03:45+0100] scribed:
 Hi, Michael,
 
 on Montag, 08. März 2004 at 15:48 you wrote to amanda-users:
 
 MDS I am using the stock Debian kernel:
 
 MDSkernel-image-2.6.3-1-686
 
 MDS From config-2.6.3-1-686:
 
 MDS#
 MDS# SCSI device support
 MDS#
 MDSCONFIG_SCSI=m
 MDSCONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y
 
 MDS#
 MDS# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
 MDS#
 MDSCONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
 MDSCONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
  ...
 
 MDS What am I missing?
 
 Maybe you don't have the right modutils installed. The format of
 modules has changed with 2.6, so you need other tools for using and
 handling them.
 
 Are you able to do a modprobe scsi in your 2.6-environment?
 
 Do the commands modprobe, lsmod, rmmod work there?

For the record, upgrading module-init-tools from 3.0-pre9-1 to
3.0-pre10-1  did the trick for me!

I do not know why this worked, because the changelog indicates only some
upstream release issue.

Also, as a loadable module (regardless kernel 2.4.25 or 2.6.3), `st' is
_not_ loaded (e.g., lsmod) until userland tries to use it.  In my case,
that is the `mt-st' package, which I have not changed in many weeks.

Bottomline, I upgraded module-init-tools and rebooted, and now userland
has no problems communicating with /dev/nst0.

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Strange DNS lookup problems ... I think ...

2004-03-08 Thread Jonathan Dill
I read the last e-mail about this, but lost it, but I think I remember 
the basic details.

First, I would try setting up some sort of nameservice caching on the 
client and server as a work-around.  Some flavors of Linux have a 
caching-nameserver package that sets up the correct bind files for you, 
then you just put

nameserver 127.0.01

at the top of /etc/resolv.conf.  tmdns is supposed to be a more 
lightweight caching nameserver of some sort, but I haven't had good luck 
with it so far.

nscd is a more general-purpose nameservice caching mechanism that can 
also cache NIS and LDAP data, but I think there may be a kernel piece to 
it that you also need compiled into the kernel.  SGI IRIX has nsd 
which is similar to nscd.  If you use nscd or nsd, check 
/etc/nsswitch.conf for the order that name services will be checked for 
hosts.  In particular, you may need to delete nis+ or nisplus if you 
don't have NIS+ running on your network--It is often in there as one of 
the defaults, but can cause the host res process to crap out at that 
point if you don't have NIS+ available on your network.

Second, I would check interface statistics on the client, server, 
nameserver, and switches and routers if possible.  You want to check for 
collisions and/or errors, and keep an eye out for duplex mismatch or 
auto-negotiation problems related to certain hardware.  Watch out for 
misbehaving mini-hubs or mini-switches along the way.

I have had problems with interface hotplug on Linux and certain cards 
not detecting a link or auto-negotiating correctly, eg. 3c509B.  I had 
to put

MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes

in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX where X is the number of 
the interface, to explicitly disable hotplug for that adapter.

--jonathan


hybrid theory

2004-03-08 Thread Jonathan Dill
Is anyone successfully using a mixed strategy of backups to both disk 
and tape?  In particular, I have a 1 TB Snap 4500 and an LTO tape 
drive.  I have thought about a few different ways to go about it, but 
would appreciate suggestions from someone who has tried this approach.  
The Snap also has built-in snapshot capability, and I wondered if there 
was a way to make use of that in combination with backups to disk.

1. normal amanda backup to holding disk, flush when disk is getting full
2. do full dumps to tape out of cycle and incrementals to disk with 
file-driver
3. #2 but also use snapshot technology to keep an even longer history of 
incrementals
4. use file-driver, and occasionally archive some of the tape-files to 
real tape

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
--jonathan


Re: Solaris 8 and L200

2004-03-08 Thread Geoff Swavley
I currently use CHS with solaris (all versions 2.6 - 2.8) ... but as I have
been discussing with the list   I only have binaries to run it in 32bit
mode. I can keep you posted Glenn on what I change to . I have had
a quick look at MTX and I am still trying to find chg-scsi!

Chs works well ... and if I had a preference I would continue using it as
our amanda setup with CHS has worked fine for 5 years  but no-one
seems to have the source code for a recompile into 64bit mode  so
I'll start looking at these others.

Let you know how I go.

Glenn Zenker wrote:

 I'm running Solaris 8, a Powerstor L200 with Amanda version 2.4.4p2.  I
 compiled the software on the machine.  It is a scsi tape changer.

 Thanks

 Christoph Scheeder wrote:
  Hi,
  first: please keep this task on the list, it gives other people the
  posibility to jump in and correct me if i tell you something wrong
 
  I guess this is a scsi-tapechanger, correct? then you have a few
  possibilities to get the robot moving:
  chg-scsi, mtx, and possibly more, i don't know all the free available
  tools to make tape robots move, espacialy for solaris as i am using
  linux on all my servers and i opperate my tapechanger all with chg-scsi.
 
  so now we are at the point where one of the solaris-people here on the
  list should jump in to help you further, but the need a little more info
  on your problem likthe exact type of your changer, which version of
  amanda you use, if you compiled it your self etc.
 
  Christoph
 
  Glenn Zenker schrieb:
 
  Thanks, that is a big help!  I'll switch to another script and see
  what happens.
 
  Do you know if Amanda can move the robot??  Currently, the only
  software we have works through a webpage.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Glenn
 
 
  Christoph Scheeder wrote:
 
  Hi,
  You have configured amanda to use chg-multi as changer script.
  i don't think this is what you want. chg-multi is used with
  multiple tapedrives to form a virtual tape-robot.
  use one of the other chg-scripts, depending on which software
  you use to move your robot.
  Christoph
 
 
  Glenn Zenker schrieb:
 
  I have amanda installed when I run the following command as the user
  amanda
 
  /usr/local/sbin/amverify DailySet1 0
 
  I get this:
 
 
  Tapes:
  Errors found:
  amtape: could not load slot 1: chg-multi: slot is empty
 
  amverify DailySet1
  Thu Mar  4 13:18:52 EST 2004
 
  Loading 1 slot...
  ** Error loading slot 1
  amtape: could not load slot 1: chg-multi: slot is empty
 
 
  If anyone can lend a hand with how they configured their L200, that
  would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: hybrid theory

2004-03-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 05:35:21PM -0500, Jonathan Dill wrote:
 Is anyone successfully using a mixed strategy of backups to both disk 
 and tape?  In particular, I have a 1 TB Snap 4500 and an LTO tape 
 drive.  I have thought about a few different ways to go about it, but 
 would appreciate suggestions from someone who has tried this approach.  
 The Snap also has built-in snapshot capability, and I wondered if there 
 was a way to make use of that in combination with backups to disk.
 
 1. normal amanda backup to holding disk, flush when disk is getting full
 2. do full dumps to tape out of cycle and incrementals to disk with 
 file-driver
 3. #2 but also use snapshot technology to keep an even longer history of 
 incrementals
 4. use file-driver, and occasionally archive some of the tape-files to 
 real tape
 
 Any other ideas?

Set up normal backups to tape, probably already done.
Set up the file:driver to use the Snap server
Set up the RAIT driver to mirror the backups to two devices,
one the file:driver the other the LTO.
Use the LTO for longterm storage, the Snap server for
immediate availability of backups for recovery.

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Solaris ACLs

2004-03-08 Thread Frank Smith
Someone on the sage-members list is looking for free backup software
that met his listed requirements, and I was about to reply with
Amanda, but I wasn't sure about his requirement #5 (below) pertaining
to Solaris ACLs.  Will Amanda actually do what he wants?

Thanks,
Frank


 I currently work for a large university. We currently have a
 Very Large tape library system (a walk-in model, terrabites of storage,
  hundreds of tapes, blah blah blah)
 
 We currently have robotics software (unitree) and some interesting
 home-grown custom jobbies.
 Unfortunately, they are rather ugly. So I'd like to be able to migrate our
 backups to something a little more sane, and a little more widely used.
 
 Given the amount of data, and number of hosts, and our limited funding for
 software, getting a license for veritas or legato backup software, etc.
 is going to be out of the question. So I need a free solution suggested.
 
 My ideal backup solution would handle:
 
 
 1. multiple incoming backup streams, ideally multiplexing then to a single
tape or virtual restoral device, for streaming speed purposes, etc.
 
 2a. know about interfacing with unitree directly, OR
 
 2b. be flexible about save all the data to a pseudo-'file' which is
 actually managed by HSM
 
 3. be able to handle restore requests along the lines of,
 
Give me all the files in directory X, on machine Y, at date
   YYY/MM/DD:HH/MM/SS
 
and pull in the appropriate files from the last full dump, and all
relevant incrementals.
 
And if there was a level0, level2, level3, and level4 dump, and
the most recent versions of the file(s) were on level3,
it would not have to go through the level0 and level2 dumps
to find out the data is not there.
 
 
 4. it must be able to handle Very Large Filesystems
(I'm not sure we have any terrabytes filesystems... Yet.
  But we probably will have them soon)
 
 5. It should be able to handle restoring Solaris ACLs
 
 
 
 
 It is not neccessary to have any kind of non-root-user interface.
 Restores are handled by the sysadmins only.
 
 Of all of the above, I think that everything except  #2 is mandatory.
 
 Am I dreaming, or is there anything out there for free that can actually
 handle all of this?



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Re: Solaris ACLs

2004-03-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 06:35:49PM -0600, Frank Smith wrote:
 Someone on the sage-members list is looking for free backup software
 that met his listed requirements, and I was about to reply with
 Amanda, but I wasn't sure about his requirement #5 (below) pertaining
 to Solaris ACLs.  Will Amanda actually do what he wants?
 
 Thanks,
 Frank
 
 
  I currently work for a large university. We currently have a
  Very Large tape library system (a walk-in model, terrabites of storage,
   hundreds of tapes, blah blah blah)
  
  We currently have robotics software (unitree) and some interesting
  home-grown custom jobbies.
  Unfortunately, they are rather ugly. So I'd like to be able to migrate our
  backups to something a little more sane, and a little more widely used.
  
  Given the amount of data, and number of hosts, and our limited funding for
  software, getting a license for veritas or legato backup software, etc.
  is going to be out of the question. So I need a free solution suggested.
  
  My ideal backup solution would handle:
  
  
  1. multiple incoming backup streams, ideally multiplexing then to a single
 tape or virtual restoral device, for streaming speed purposes, etc.
  
  2a. know about interfacing with unitree directly, OR
  
  2b. be flexible about save all the data to a pseudo-'file' which is
  actually managed by HSM
  
  3. be able to handle restore requests along the lines of,
  
 Give me all the files in directory X, on machine Y, at date
YYY/MM/DD:HH/MM/SS
  
 and pull in the appropriate files from the last full dump, and all
 relevant incrementals.
  
 And if there was a level0, level2, level3, and level4 dump, and
 the most recent versions of the file(s) were on level3,
 it would not have to go through the level0 and level2 dumps
 to find out the data is not there.
  
  
  4. it must be able to handle Very Large Filesystems
 (I'm not sure we have any terrabytes filesystems... Yet.
   But we probably will have them soon)
  
  5. It should be able to handle restoring Solaris ACLs
  
  
  
  
  It is not neccessary to have any kind of non-root-user interface.
  Restores are handled by the sysadmins only.
  
  Of all of the above, I think that everything except  #2 is mandatory.
  
  Am I dreaming, or is there anything out there for free that can actually
  handle all of this?
 
 
 



The man page doesn't mention ACL's, but I suspect it will
have to preserve them.  Tar/gnutar of course will not.
However, if Shilly's 'star' can be made to work, it claims
to preserve Solaris ACL's (and not affect atime).

If ufsdump is used the normal caveats apply, exclude/include
don't work, only entire file systems which must fit on tape, ...

As Solaris also can do FS snapshots, the OP should be informed
of that feature.  Not amanda specific, but neat.

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