Re: Exclude list and disklist
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 at 12:39pm, Kuas wrote I setup the back-up so that all excluded list are in /var/lib/amanda/exclude.txt on each machine, so that I can use a general dump-type. But I haven't been able to get it work. For example, I backed up all the /var/spool/mail for every user (the emails are in 1 file), except: A and B. I put in the exclude.txt on that machine: /var/spool/mail/A and /var/spool/mail/B. This doesn't work, I wonder if they're absolute path. In the dumptype, I put: Exclude paths are relative. So, if your DLE is /var/spool/mail, you'd have to exclude ./A and ./B. The second question is about disklist. If I have to change the directory layout of a system. And change the disklist, I can see that in the next backup, the new list is used. But, all the old list are still in the index (I can see it in amrecover). I think it's good if it keep the old structure (disklist) until all the tapes that contain that data are reused. Is this the case, if not, how do I delete the entries? The same If you change the disklist, amanda treats those as new entries. The old entries won't be backed up anymore, but will still be recoverable until the tapes are overwritten. as exclude list, if some users update me that some directories in their home are not supposed to be backup, but it was backup before. Does the next amdump run redo the dump not to include that directory or only only when it detects more changes in that directory? Would it exclude the list, or I should restart some of the amanda processes? Amanda leaves no processes running between dumps. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: Exclude list and disklist
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 at 12:39pm, Kuas wrote I setup the back-up so that all excluded list are in /var/lib/amanda/exclude.txt on each machine, so that I can use a general dump-type. But I haven't been able to get it work. For example, I backed up all the /var/spool/mail for every user (the emails are in 1 file), except: A and B. I put in the exclude.txt on that machine: /var/spool/mail/A and /var/spool/mail/B. This doesn't work, I wonder if they're absolute path. In the dumptype, I put: Exclude paths are relative. So, if your DLE is /var/spool/mail, you'd have to exclude ./A and ./B. Got it. Now, In a situation I want to give flexibility to users, that they are the one that knows if a directory needs to be excluded or backup to be more efficient in the backup process. From the howto and some trial I can specify in the dumptype, instead of the absolute path to the exclude file, but just the name of the file: exclude list exclude.list So each user needs to create this file and has full authority to change it. The effect I saw (from amcheck) is that it will try to find that the file in each of the DLE that uses that dumptype. But the problem I saw, when there is a problem like the file doesn't exist. That will stop all backup processes or at least for that DLE. Has anybody else seen this, or it's just normal behavior when there's a problem, they just stop the backup. Is the syntax of that exclude behavior is prohibited. Has anybody tried doing similiar purpose like this before? Would there be a better way to do it? Thanks, Kuas.
Re: Exclude list and disklist
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 at 3:58pm, Kuas wrote Now, In a situation I want to give flexibility to users, that they are the one that knows if a directory needs to be excluded or backup to be more efficient in the backup process. From the howto and some trial I can specify in the dumptype, instead of the absolute path to the exclude file, but just the name of the file: exclude list exclude.list So each user needs to create this file and has full authority to change it. The effect I saw (from amcheck) is that it will try to find that the file in each of the DLE that uses that dumptype. But the problem I saw, when there is a problem like the file doesn't exist. That will stop all backup processes or at least for that DLE. Has anybody else seen this, or it's just normal behavior when there's a problem, they just stop the backup. Is the syntax of that exclude behavior is prohibited. Has anybody tried doing similiar purpose like this before? Would there be a better way to do it? From 'man amanda': exclude [ list|file ][[optional][ append ][ string ]+] Default: file. There is two exclude list exclude file and exclude list. With exclude file , the string is a gnutar exclude expression. With exclude list , the string is a file name on the client containing gnutar exclude expression. All exclude expression are concatenated in one file and passed to gnutar as a --exclude-from argument. With the append keyword, the string are appended to the current value of the list, without it, the string overwrite the list. =If optional is specified for exclude list, then amcheck will not =complain if the file doesn't exist or is not readable. For exclude list, If the file name is relative, the disk name being backed up is prepended. So if this is entered: exclude list .amanda.excludes the actual file use would be /var/.amanda.excludes for a backup of /var, /usr/local/.amanda.excludes for a backup of /usr/local, and so on. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University
Re: Exclude list and disklist
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 03:58:58PM -0400, Kuas enlightened us: Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 at 12:39pm, Kuas wrote I setup the back-up so that all excluded list are in /var/lib/amanda/exclude.txt on each machine, so that I can use a general dump-type. But I haven't been able to get it work. For example, I backed up all the /var/spool/mail for every user (the emails are in 1 file), except: A and B. I put in the exclude.txt on that machine: /var/spool/mail/A and /var/spool/mail/B. This doesn't work, I wonder if they're absolute path. In the dumptype, I put: Exclude paths are relative. So, if your DLE is /var/spool/mail, you'd have to exclude ./A and ./B. Got it. Now, In a situation I want to give flexibility to users, that they are the one that knows if a directory needs to be excluded or backup to be more efficient in the backup process. From the howto and some trial I can specify in the dumptype, instead of the absolute path to the exclude file, but just the name of the file: exclude list exclude.list So each user needs to create this file and has full authority to change it. The effect I saw (from amcheck) is that it will try to find that the file in each of the DLE that uses that dumptype. But the problem I saw, when there is a problem like the file doesn't exist. That will stop all backup processes or at least for that DLE. Has anybody else seen this, or it's just normal behavior when there's a problem, they just stop the backup. Is the syntax of that exclude behavior is prohibited. Has anybody tried doing similiar purpose like this before? Would there be a better way to do it? I use exclude list optional .amanda.exclude So if the file doesn't exist, it isn't an error. Matt -- Matt Hyclak Department of Mathematics Department of Social Work Ohio University (740) 593-1263 pgpL5TSKYGyuZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
