Re: Raid and Amanda

2001-06-17 Thread Dan Wilder

On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:44:27AM -0400, Karl Bellve wrote:
 
 I am learning to use Amanda but it seems it has a problem, as everyone 
 knows, backing up a filesystem larger than the tape.
 
 I have a 300GB Raid 5 system and a 35GB AIT tape drive. I would like 
 to do a backup of the raid system with a full backup done atleast 
 once/month.
 
 It seems the only option is to make a Amanda config file for each 
 subdirectory inside the raid drive (limited to 10GB each). There are 
 about 15 10GB directories, so I guess I need to make 15 config files? 

If you use tar (as opposed to dump) as the low-level utility, you can 
use a single amanda config, with a line in the disklist for each 10G 
subdirectory.

 Will Amanda try and back up each 10GB directory each night? I can see 
 that would be a problem since I don't have a tape changer. Also, my 
 holder partition is only about 2GB. 

I fail to see how it could be practical to use a separate amanda configuration
per subdirectory.  You'd have to run, say, a different configuration per 
night on a fifteen-day rotation.  Not very good coverage!

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Re: Raid and Amanda

2001-06-17 Thread Jonathan Dill

Olivier Nicole wrote:
 
 I am learning to use Amanda but it seems it has a problem, as everyone
 knows, backing up a filesystem larger than the tape.
 
 Am I wrong? I understood that Amanda is supposed to ask for as many
 tapes during a single run, that are needed to complete the back-up.
 
 So it would start and ask for a second, third, fourth... tape until it
 managed to back-up everything.

A backup of an individual filesystem cannot span multiple tapes.  For
example, if you have a 40 GB tapedrive, and you want to back up a 75 GB
disk drive that is pretty full of data that is not very compressible,
it's probably not going to work.  You will have to use gnutar to split
up the disk into smaller subdirectories.  Or, you might consider backing
up the disk and then repartitioning it into  40 GB chunks.

I think that spanning multiple tapes may be a feature in some
development version of amanda, but I don't know the current status.

Secondly, runtapes determines the total number of tapes that amanda
will use during the run, period.  You could set runtapes equal to the
number of tapes in your changer and let amanda use all of the tapes
until it is done, but that may not be the ideal strategy in the long
term.  You may want to try to get amanda to use about 2-3 tapes a day,
for example, and balance the full and incremental dumps accordingly. 
You have to try to be realistic about how many tapes you will need to
use, but things will also balance out some as the dump cycle progresses.

What I do is during the week, I only let amanda use 2-3 tapes for each
run.  Sometimes, dumps end up left on the holding disk, and I have to
flush them to tape, but at least it keeps the backup cycle from running
into the middle of the work day if there are some large dumps that need
to get done.

For the weekend, I let amanda use all of the tapes in the rack if it
wants to.  I will also deliberately force a few full dumps to try to get
them done on the weekend so they won't run during the week.  One thing I
haven't worked out yet is a good system for trying to guess what full
dumps should be coming due soon so I can specifically force those dumps
on the weekend.

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Re: Raid and Amanda

2001-06-17 Thread David Lloyd


Oh?

 If you use tar (as opposed to dump) as the low-level utility, you can
 use a single amanda config, with a line in the disklist for each 10G
 subdirectory.

I didn't know one could do that. How?

DSL
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Re: Raid and Amanda

2001-06-17 Thread Olivier Nicole

  If you use tar (as opposed to dump) as the low-level utility, you can
  use a single amanda config, with a line in the disklist for each 10G
  subdirectory.
 
 I didn't know one could do that. How?

OK lets suppose you mount /dev/da0s1g to /home for the users home
directories.

In /home, you will have one subdirectory per user, /home/paul,
/home/peter...

So in you amada disklist, you just declare /home/paul, then on an
other line /home/peter...
Assuming that each user is less than the 10GB of course.

And the dumptype in amanda.conf must specify to use GNUTAR

Olivier



Re: Raid and Amanda

2001-06-06 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 at 10:51pm, Olivier Nicole wrote

 I am learning to use Amanda but it seems it has a problem, as everyone
 knows, backing up a filesystem larger than the tape.

 Am I wrong? I understood that Amanda is supposed to ask for as many
 tapes during a single run, that are needed to complete the back-up.

 So it would start and ask for a second, third, fourth... tape until it
 managed to back-up everything.

It will use as many tapes as it needs during a single amdump run *if* you
set runtapes large enough and define a tape changer (including you, a.k.a
chg-manual).

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Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University