Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-25 Thread Matthias Trute
Am Montag, den 20.04.2015, 22:17 -0500 schrieb Tom Maynard:
  Can't someone here with a working Arduino Uno R3 help Steve?
 
 I haven't looked, but at least at the release level when I downloaded my
 first Amforth (v5.3?), there were HEX files for all supported hardware
 buried somewhere in the distribution.  Is that not true now?

They are part of the distribution files. At least for fixed hardware
configurations like the arduinos.

 
 Memory says that the HEX files were detritus from the integration testing.

Not exactly detritus since the final testing takes place 
with (some of) the hex files made with the release source tree.

 
 Maybe a simple edit to the Makefile could correct that issue. 

Since I use ant (and the build.xml files) I welcome feedback for
the makefiles. I seldom (in fact never) use make. Since I am aware
that ant is a strange tool for compiling assembly sources 
I keep the makefiles for others (you).

Matthias

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Re: [Amforth] AMFORTH 5.8 on Uno R3

2015-04-25 Thread Tom Maynard
  Maybe a simple edit to the Makefile could correct that issue. 

 Since I use ant (and the build.xml files) I welcome feedback for the
makefiles. I seldom (in fact never) use  make. 

Foolishly sloppy language from me again: I meant Makefile as a form of
synecdoche for the Build Process.  (And I suppose in lieu of detritus I
might have said artifact, too.)

But my intent was clear (I hope): fully functional HEX files reside within
the distribution, and can get a new user, especially on an Arduino, up and
running right away.  After some experimentation with these non-specific
builds, a user who cares to can figure out how to customize the HEX file to
suit their application.

That's exactly how I got started, and the path I followed to build my Uno
R3.  And now I do all my Amforth dev work over SSH to a headless Raspberry
Pi with InoTool for a USB attached Uno (either commercial or homebrew).  For
USD 35 I have a completely dedicated Amforth development station.

But without the early ability to experiment with those existing builds in
the distro, I might never have been motivated to figure it all out.  You
should publicize those files more:

For evaluating Amforth, or even if you're merely curious about Forth on
Arduino, you may use one of the existing HEX files for the list of Arduino
boards supported found the folder of the distro.

Heck, you could even copy that family of HEX files to a higher level in the
source tree, and call it Demos or Test Images or the like.

Just a thought.



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