Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM

2007-03-28 Thread DOXEMF
Hello,
 The Antenna relay socket is a simple crystal socket in my VKII's. I just took 
a useless metal xtal, unsoldered the shell and made an opening for a grommet 
and zip cord to go to the relay. Then resoldered and injected silicone glue 
past the cord.
  One of those things you do when it is needed.
  But when I get around to rebuilding the VK's will place a small 24 volt 
transformer or a relay inside and put pin jack 
sockets or whatever connector will mount in the holes without modification.

 Definitely a dangerous spot for hot AC line voltage!!
Can't imagine what EFJ was thinking there! A simple AC socket like on stereo 
amps would have been fine.

 Of course the line cord must be 3 wire polarized and properly fused.

73's
 Bill
KB3DKS/1
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[AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread VJB
Man, with all the warnings on here about voltage, it's
enough to make me quit licking 9V batteries as a test.


 

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Re: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Bill Smith
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From: VJB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Man, with all the warnings on here about voltage, it's
 enough to make me quit licking 9V batteries as a test.
.

Definitely bad taste.
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Re: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread John Lawson



On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Bill Smith wrote:


- Original Message -
From: VJB [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Man, with all the warnings on here about voltage, it's
enough to make me quit licking 9V batteries as a test.

.

Definitely bad taste.


  Back in the day - there were batteries available for 'photoflash' 
applications 450 terminal volts.


   here, taste this big 9-v battery


HIHI



Cheers

John
KB6SCO
DM09fg

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Re: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Jim Candela
Actually, you can toss the 9v battery into a fish bowel filled with Guppies. 
The electric field extends away from the terminals in a cardioid pattern 
forming a partial sphere about the size of a large marble. Any fish that swims 
into the field goes into a severe muscular contraction, and cardiac arrest. 
Then a moment later their momentum moves them out of the field, and they resume 
normal fish activity. This is a really cool experiment! ;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:27:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] electricity

Known to cause tongue cancer. I wouldn't do it, personally.   
I get my cats to do it.  

The higher they jump, the better the condition of the battery.

Ed, VA3ES
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RE: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Joe A. Taylor

Actually the tongue cancer thing is only with Duracells.
We think it is the rabbit's fault. Joe  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - Original 
Message  From: Ed Sieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in 
the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 
2:27:39 PM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] electricity  Known to cause tongue cancer. 
I wouldn't do it, personally.  I get my cats to do it.   The higher they 
jump, the better the condition of the battery.  Ed, VA3ES 
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Re: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ

Hey Ed -

Thanks for the reports last night, looks like I'll be in the world of
crapped out transmitters for a while. Some think 'shorted windings'
other think 'problems with bias in driver circuit'. Not sure when I'll
get the opportunity to get into it.

73, Todd  KA1KAQ
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RE: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Ed Sieb
Known to cause tongue cancer. I wouldn't do it, personally.   
I get my cats to do it.  

The higher they jump, the better the condition of the battery.

Ed, VA3ES
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Re: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Bill Smith
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From: John Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.Back in the day - there were batteries available for 'photoflash' 
 applications 450 terminal volts.
 
 here, taste this big 9-v battery

FLASH!  :^0

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RE: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Ed Sieb
I had just tuned to 3885, when I heard your rig crap out.
That'll teach you to move to the AM Ghetto!!!  ;-)

Hopefully you can sort it out.   I hope it isn't the mod iron.  

73, Ed,   VA3ES 



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Hey Ed -

Thanks for the reports last night, looks like I'll be in the world of
crapped out transmitters for a while. Some think 'shorted windings'
other think 'problems with bias in driver circuit'. Not sure when I'll
get the opportunity to get into it.

73, Todd  KA1KAQ
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Re: [AMRadio] electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Jim Wilhite
Todd, what do you mean shorted windings.  Are you talking 
about a transformer, or up top?? :)


Jim
W5JO


Hey Ed -

Thanks for the reports last night, looks like I'll be in 
the world of
crapped out transmitters for a while. Some think 'shorted 
windings'
other think 'problems with bias in driver circuit'. Not 
sure when I'll

get the opportunity to get into it.

73, Todd  KA1KAQ



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Re: [AMRadio] electricity and other musings

2007-03-28 Thread Todd, KA1KAQ

Heh, sorry about the randomly off-topic reply. It's been a while, I
forgot that direct replies go directly to the list and not the
individual.

On 3/28/07, Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Todd, what do you mean shorted windings.  Are you talking
about a transformer, or up top?? :)


Probably a little of both, Jim. (o: Was on 3885 with some of the guys
two nights ago when the audio went away. Modulator cathode current
meter was bouncing around like crazy, as if I'd bumped the gain, but
no joy.

Having just recapped the audio deck a month or so back due to a bias
problem, it's looking and sounding like the mod tranny went west. Did
some brief testing last night with Ed and the boys up north, seems
they can hear me but audio is way down and I sound like I'm
underwater/breaking up/in a world of s

Serves me right for not going through it completely before putting it
back on the air. Hope to get some time this weekend to tear into it.

Ah, the joys of old gear. :D

~ Todd,  KA1KAQ
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Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM

2007-03-28 Thread David McClafferty
Not sure about the Viking II, but in the Valiant, the internal fuse is only in 
the primary of the HV xfmr. The line plug fuses protect evertything else. I 
replaced the single internal fuseholder with a double one and used the second 
holder for a single fuse in the hot side of the line only and replaced the line 
cord with a 3 conductor and 3 prong prang.

Dave, VE1ADH

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Subject: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM


Hi Ed,

You are correct and I noticed that after I posted.  In the Viking II, there 
is an additional fuse in the primary circuit which is mounted in a holder on 
the chassis.  Not so in the Ranger where the fuses are in that infamous fused 
plug.  My original
V II came with the fused plug and the internal fuse.  The only possible 
reason I can see for this was to protect the antenna relay socket regardless of 
which way the line cord was plugged into the wall outlet.  Seems like the 
engineers would have just put the hot side of the socket on the other side of 
the 
fuse and one problem would have been solved.

Thanks for your comments,

73,

John,  W4AWM






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Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM

2007-03-28 Thread W4AWM
The internal fuse in the Viking II is in line with the low and high voltage 
transformer primaries and protects both.  As stated before, there is no 
prorection for the antenna relay socket unless the original fused line plug is 
used.  
This is not a good idea and it should be replaced as you said, with internal 
fuses. If wired correctly, only one additional fuse would be needed to protect 
both sides of the line and the lead to the relay socket should be moved ahead 
of the fuse to protect that outlet.

73, 

 John,  W4AWM

  I replaced the single internal fuseholder with a double one and used the 
second holder for a single fuse in the hot side of the line only and replaced 
the line cord with a 3 conductor and 3 prong prang. 



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Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM ++CORRECTION++

2007-03-28 Thread W4AWM
In a message dated 3/28/2007 17:52:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
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writes:

 the lead to the relay socket should be moved ahead 
 of the fuse to protect that outlet.
 

CORRECTION:  Sorry, that should read after the fuse!

73,  

John,  W4AWM


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RE: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM

2007-03-28 Thread Gary Schafer
It is a good idea to use a separate fuse for the high voltage and the low
voltage. With one fuse only you can have a short on the low voltage and it
will cook the low voltage transformer and never blow the fuse. BTDT.

73
Gary  K4FMX

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 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM
 
 The internal fuse in the Viking II is in line with the low and high
 voltage
 transformer primaries and protects both.  As stated before, there is no
 prorection for the antenna relay socket unless the original fused line
 plug is used.
 This is not a good idea and it should be replaced as you said, with
 internal
 fuses. If wired correctly, only one additional fuse would be needed to
 protect
 both sides of the line and the lead to the relay socket should be moved
 ahead
 of the fuse to protect that outlet.
 
 73,
 
  John,  W4AWM
 
   I replaced the single internal fuseholder with a double one and used
 the
 second holder for a single fuse in the hot side of the line only and
 replaced
 the line cord with a 3 conductor and 3 prong prang. 
 
 
 
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[AMRadio] More electricity

2007-03-28 Thread DOXEMF
  When I was in High School Voc.Tech. in the late 60's we used to charge up a 
good axial H.V. electrolytic with the leads wrapped around the ends and say 
 catch, to an unspecting classmate. 
  We also did the,... hold on to two can lytics with the cans connected to the 
cap tester, a big CDE, and see how high the leakage test voltage would get 
before letting go.

 Betcha I'm not the only one with these type memories ;)

Bill,
KB3DKS/1
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Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM

2007-03-28 Thread gkb
And, if you do cook that low voltage tranny, shoot me an email. I have two
new rewinds setting on the shelf, ready to bolt in.
Regards,
Gary...WZ1M
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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM


 It is a good idea to use a separate fuse for the high voltage and the low
 voltage. With one fuse only you can have a short on the low voltage and it
 will cook the low voltage transformer and never blow the fuse. BTDT.

 73
 Gary  K4FMX

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  Subject: Re: [AMRadio] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM
 
  The internal fuse in the Viking II is in line with the low and high
  voltage
  transformer primaries and protects both.  As stated before, there is no
  prorection for the antenna relay socket unless the original fused line
  plug is used.
  This is not a good idea and it should be replaced as you said, with
  internal
  fuses. If wired correctly, only one additional fuse would be needed to
  protect
  both sides of the line and the lead to the relay socket should be moved
  ahead
  of the fuse to protect that outlet.
 
  73,
 
   John,  W4AWM
 
I replaced the single internal fuseholder with a double one and used
  the
  second holder for a single fuse in the hot side of the line only and
  replaced
  the line cord with a 3 conductor and 3 prong prang. 
 
 
 
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Re: [AMRadio] More electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Mike Sawyer
Funny, we used to do the same thing in our electronic shop at S.U.N.A.V.T.S.
Mod-U-Lator,
Mike(y)
W3SLK



  When I was in High School Voc.Tech. in the late 60's we used to charge up 
a good axial H.V. electrolytic with the leads wrapped around the ends and 
say  catch, to an unspecting classmate.
  We also did the,... hold on to two can lytics with the cans connected to 
the cap tester, a big CDE, and see how high the leakage test voltage would 
get before letting go.

 Betcha I'm not the only one with these type memories ;)

Bill,
KB3DKS/1

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Re: [AMRadio] electricity and other musings

2007-03-28 Thread Jim Wilhite
Sorry to hear about all that Todd.  Hope the fix is easy and 
you are full bore soon.  Maybe a bias problem  Hope so 
rather than the transformer.  Good luck.


And I always enjoy gigging you too.  :)

73  Jim
W5JO


Heh, sorry about the randomly off-topic reply. It's been a 
while, I
forgot that direct replies go directly to the list and not 
the

individual.



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RE: [AMRadio] More electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Rick Brashear
Nope, you're sure not.  My Radio Electronics instructor tired of people
fiddling with things on his desk in the lab and set a charged can capacitor
on it.  It wasn't long before we heard the yelp and then the laughter from
Mr. Cannon!  No!  It wasn't me.  Of course, that was the early 60's, you'd
get sued for such fun nowadays!

Rick/K5IZ


  When I was in High School Voc.Tech. in the late 60's we used to charge up
a good axial H.V. electrolytic with the leads wrapped around the ends and
say  catch, to an unspecting classmate. 
  We also did the,... hold on to two can lytics with the cans connected to
the cap tester, a big CDE, and see how high the leakage test voltage would
get before letting go.

 Betcha I'm not the only one with these type memories ;)

Bill,
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Re: [AMRadio] More electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Bill Smith
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   When I was in High School Voc.Tech. in the late 60's we used to charge
up a good axial H.V. electrolytic with the leads wrapped around the ends and
say  catch, to an unspecting classmate.
   We also did the,... hold on to two can lytics with the cans connected to
the cap tester, a big CDE, and see how high the leakage test voltage would
get before letting go.

  Betcha I'm not the only one with these type memories ;)

 Bill,
 KB3DKS/1

One wonders how many people have been left with a deep sense of awe and fear
due their unfortunate early contact with electricity.  Seems this was
something of a very wide practice.  Maybe that is why there aren't any
electric shops left in High Schools.  ;^)

Bill

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[AMRadio] More electricity

2007-03-28 Thread Joe A. Taylor

In the mid-60s  A few of us science nerds wore hush puppy shoes, the ones 
with deep crepe sponge soles and heels.   One of us would crank an old Wimhurst 
generator and another would get charged, the third guy would open all the 
doors  and the  cheerleader hunt  was on.Range was only about 15 feet for a 
really good squeal, but occasionally prey would be had. Joe  [EMAIL 
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[AMRadio] More electricity Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:34:12 -0800  - 
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in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net   When I was in High 
School Voc.Tech. in the late 60's we used to charge up a good axial H.V. 
electrolytic with the leads wrapped around the ends and say  catch, to an 
unspecting classmate.  We also did the,... hold on to two can lytics with the 
cans connected to the cap tester, a big CDE, and see how high the leakage test 
voltage would get before letting go.   Betcha I'm not the only one with 
these type memories ;)   Bill,  KB3DKS/1  One wonders how many people 
have been left with a deep sense of awe and fear due their unfortunate early 
contact with electricity. Seems this was something of a very wide practice. 
Maybe that is why there aren't any electric shops left in High Schools. ;^)  
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[AMRadio] Re: [Boatanchors] Re: [Johnson] THE VIKING II AND FRIED HAM

2007-03-28 Thread WØQFC

Hot air ~ which most hams seem to have a abundance of!

In short of having a heat gun an old hair dryer will work fine. It just 
takes longer

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What is the best heat source to shrink the  tubing?

Roger K7DDG




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Re: [AMRadio] RE: W2VJZ Estate Sale - DX100's Galore Other Stuff

2007-03-28 Thread cemilton
I was transferred from my native South to the NE back in the 70's.  
Worked in Manhattan (WTC) for two years but lived in Berkeley Heights 
about 15 minutes from Liberty Corners.  If that real estate is really 
28 acres, forget the structures.  The land alone in that little 
township is worth more than gold.  Millions is the correct assessment.  
I'd almost bet the structures qualify for historical preservation 
status.  Oh, BTW, I made it back to the South never to leave 
again (at least while living). Hi Hi


I'd sure like to lay hands on the HT-4 though.

73
Chuck
W4MIL



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  I would suspect all the value is in the property and not the 
structures.
Probably worth millions without even considering the zoning. Irb sat on 
a

real estate gold mine for many years.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:22:48 -0500 D. Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

Looks like a treasure trove of collectables - both radio and
non-radio.  The
house looks a little run down, but I suspect the structure is
basically
sound.  Pity he had no-one to leave it to, who could appreciate it
all.
Looks like the ideal place for an old tyme ham station.

If I still lived in the northeast, I'd probably skip Deerfield to
attend the
auction.  Looks like there may be more goodies than might show up at
the
flea market..  Hope enough interested hams show up that the stuff
doesn't
end up in a land fill.

Also, hope audiophools and exporters to Asia don't show up to scarf
up the
best items.

Don k4kyv

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Re: [AMRadio] RE: W2VJZ Estate Sale - DX100's Galore Other Stuff

2007-03-28 Thread david knepper

I guess Irb had the last laugh on everyone.

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I would suspect all the value is in the property and not the structures.
Probably worth millions without even considering the zoning. Irb sat on a
real estate gold mine for many years.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:22:48 -0500 D. Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Looks like a treasure trove of collectables - both radio and 
non-radio.  The 
house looks a little run down, but I suspect the structure is 
basically 
sound.  Pity he had no-one to leave it to, who could appreciate it 
all. 
Looks like the ideal place for an old tyme ham station.


If I still lived in the northeast, I'd probably skip Deerfield to 
attend the 
auction.  Looks like there may be more goodies than might show up at 
the 
flea market..  Hope enough interested hams show up that the stuff 
doesn't 
end up in a land fill.


Also, hope audiophools and exporters to Asia don't show up to scarf 
up the 
best items.


Don k4kyv 

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Re: [AMRadio] More electricity

2007-03-28 Thread david knepper

Even then, he should have gotten reprimanded had I been the principal.

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Nope, you're sure not.  My Radio Electronics instructor tired of people
fiddling with things on his desk in the lab and set a charged can 
capacitor

on it.  It wasn't long before we heard the yelp and then the laughter from
Mr. Cannon!  No!  It wasn't me.  Of course, that was the early 60's, you'd
get sued for such fun nowadays!

Rick/K5IZ


 When I was in High School Voc.Tech. in the late 60's we used to charge up
a good axial H.V. electrolytic with the leads wrapped around the ends and
say  catch, to an unspecting classmate.
 We also did the,... hold on to two can lytics with the cans connected to
the cap tester, a big CDE, and see how high the leakage test voltage would
get before letting go.

Betcha I'm not the only one with these type memories ;)

Bill,
KB3DKS/1

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