[AMRadio] ATTN: Ray Friess
Ray, Mail sent to the following address is not working. [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I reply to you...it is being returned. Bob,W4WSZ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] WTB.......... Ranger I RF chokes
GM to the list. I'm abt to finish up on a RANGER I restoration and need three (3) 4.7 uh RF chokes. These are the molded chokes with the Yellow/Violet banding. I can get chokes, but just wanted to keep the rig as close to original as possible. Anyone have a junker/donor? 73 de W4MIL Chuck More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp000503 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition
I avoid 4cx250 pull outs as they are almost always bad. They may test fine, but they arc over after a while in use. I have about 30 of them that do that. As they are used, the stuff they made to coat the cathode (so it emits electrons) gets deposited all over inside the tube, and at some point they start arcing over. It just seems to come down to run time (filiments on). They tend to work for a while, then arc, and the more you use them the more they arc, till next time when you start over again, each time getting shorter before they arc. Maybe reducing the voltage to say 1000 volts (down from 2000) might give them more time. I consider these tubes worthless unless they were not used or have low hours on them. Not sure what new ones go for, I got 4 new ones a few years ago for $160.00, used ones used to be $5.00 and not usualy worth that. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I got this from a radio station in a lot of stuff and it has been floating around my house for quite some time. I have no use for it as i'm into QRP. I have no idea if it works or not. It looks like it's in good condition. I'll swap it for an interesting technical trinket or best cash offer plus shipping. My interests are Part 15 AM Microcasting and Computers. Thank You, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Universal Life Ministries http://www.ulc.org Moderator Hunterdonfree http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hunterdonfree Moderator NeighborhoodInformer NJ/PA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerNewJersey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerpennsylvania __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition
I got this from a radio station in a lot of stuff and it has been floating around my house for quite some time. I have no use for it as i'm into QRP. I have no idea if it works or not. It looks like it's in good condition. I'll swap it for an interesting technical trinket or best cash offer plus shipping. My interests are Part 15 AM Microcasting and Computers. Thank You, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Universal Life Ministries http://www.ulc.org Moderator Hunterdonfree http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hunterdonfree Moderator NeighborhoodInformer NJ/PA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerNewJersey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerpennsylvania __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition
Ok, I don't know much about this high power stuff. highest power tube tranny i have is 36 Watts on the AM BCB for carrier current use. and actually that is the only tube tx i have. it's going to be a learning experience to get it going again. - Original Message - From: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I avoid 4cx250 pull outs as they are almost always bad. They may test fine, but they arc over after a while in use. I have about 30 of them that do that. As they are used, the stuff they made to coat the cathode (so it emits electrons) gets deposited all over inside the tube, and at some point they start arcing over. It just seems to come down to run time (filiments on). They tend to work for a while, then arc, and the more you use them the more they arc, till next time when you start over again, each time getting shorter before they arc. Maybe reducing the voltage to say 1000 volts (down from 2000) might give them more time. I consider these tubes worthless unless they were not used or have low hours on them. Not sure what new ones go for, I got 4 new ones a few years ago for $160.00, used ones used to be $5.00 and not usualy worth that. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I got this from a radio station in a lot of stuff and it has been floating around my house for quite some time. I have no use for it as i'm into QRP. I have no idea if it works or not. It looks like it's in good condition. I'll swap it for an interesting technical trinket or best cash offer plus shipping. My interests are Part 15 AM Microcasting and Computers. Thank You, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Universal Life Ministries http://www.ulc.org Moderator Hunterdonfree http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hunterdonfree Moderator NeighborhoodInformer NJ/PA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerNewJersey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerpennsylvania __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition
The tube may be fine, but unles you KNOW that, its likely not. I guess lots of these were used in broadcast service, and when they started arcing over, they were pulled and thrown in a box for sale at the hamfest. I know I bought a lot of them at fests for very little, and 99% wont work more than a few transmissions before arcing. The new ones have been in for years without problems... I was getting 3cx800's as pullouts and 80% of them were useless also. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition Ok, I don't know much about this high power stuff. highest power tube tranny i have is 36 Watts on the AM BCB for carrier current use. and actually that is the only tube tx i have. it's going to be a learning experience to get it going again. - Original Message - From: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I avoid 4cx250 pull outs as they are almost always bad. They may test fine, but they arc over after a while in use. I have about 30 of them that do that. As they are used, the stuff they made to coat the cathode (so it emits electrons) gets deposited all over inside the tube, and at some point they start arcing over. It just seems to come down to run time (filiments on). They tend to work for a while, then arc, and the more you use them the more they arc, till next time when you start over again, each time getting shorter before they arc. Maybe reducing the voltage to say 1000 volts (down from 2000) might give them more time. I consider these tubes worthless unless they were not used or have low hours on them. Not sure what new ones go for, I got 4 new ones a few years ago for $160.00, used ones used to be $5.00 and not usualy worth that. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I got this from a radio station in a lot of stuff and it has been floating around my house for quite some time. I have no use for it as i'm into QRP. I have no idea if it works or not. It looks like it's in good condition. I'll swap it for an interesting technical trinket or best cash offer plus shipping. My interests are Part 15 AM Microcasting and Computers. Thank You, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Universal Life Ministries http://www.ulc.org Moderator Hunterdonfree http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hunterdonfree Moderator NeighborhoodInformer NJ/PA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerNewJersey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerpennsylvania __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Not to be confused with KA1KAQ :-) Nice to work you this morning, Roger. Your 756Pro had a GREAT AM signal into San Antonio from the Buda/Kyle area (south of Austin). I can just imagine what the signal will be like with the Collins rig and the 813's amp! We're on most every morning on 3.880, so when you get through with your 20m sched, c'mon down! You'll generally find Perry/W5KGZ near Beaumont, Wayne/W5DWP in Vidor, TX, Yogie/KC5MIP, Jon/AD5HR, Jerry/N5CBW, Geoff/W5OMR (when he's in town) and sometimes others, depending on the day. More, of course, on the weekends and holidays. Come on back, every chance you get! I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas
I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... That whole NFLN mess is a real fiasco, isn't it? We should send notes of appreciation to Jerry Jones and the NFL. And of course, if you want to buy season tickets in the new Dallas stadium with good seats, you'd best be a dot com millionnaire. It will no longer be posssible for ordinary circus folk like the rest of us to actually get to see games in the stadium :-) Grant/NQ5T __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Going to be on Ch 27 in Dallas and on the NFL Network on DTV...That Is why DTV is better then cable...The Cable networks are not carrying NFL Network as they want To charge it as a premium channel and is the clear on DTV as a standard program...We best drop this subject unless Jerry Jones is using tubes now!!! Bob W1PE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] n.qth.net] On Behalf Of Geoff/W5OMR Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:05 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ Not to be confused with KA1KAQ :-) Nice to work you this morning, Roger. Your 756Pro had a GREAT AM signal into San Antonio from the Buda/Kyle area (south of Austin). I can just imagine what the signal will be like with the Collins rig and the 813's amp! We're on most every morning on 3.880, so when you get through with your 20m sched, c'mon down! You'll generally find Perry/W5KGZ near Beaumont, Wayne/W5DWP in Vidor, TX, Yogie/KC5MIP, Jon/AD5HR, Jerry/N5CBW, Geoff/W5OMR (when he's in town) and sometimes others, depending on the day. More, of course, on the weekends and holidays. Come on back, every chance you get! I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ __ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.ht ml List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman /listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.h tml Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] t with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to be confused with KA1KAQ :-) Nice to work you this morning, Roger. Your 756Pro had a GREAT AM signal into San Antonio from the Buda/Kyle area (south of Austin). I can just imagine what the signal will be like with the Collins rig and the 813's amp! We're on most every morning on 3.880, so when you get through with your 20m sched, c'mon down! You'll generally find Perry/W5KGZ near Beaumont, Wayne/W5DWP in Vidor, TX, Yogie/KC5MIP, Jon/AD5HR, Jerry/N5CBW, Geoff/W5OMR (when he's in town) and sometimes others, depending on the day. More, of course, on the weekends and holidays. Come on back, every chance you get! I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR I'm lucky. I live in the home viewing area for the Packers (Milwaukee [because some Packer home games were played in Milwaukee until 1996, along with Green Bay, are considered to be the Packers' home cities). Sooo, I'm going to watch the game tonight on one of the local stations (Channel12, WISN). Yeah!! Packers RULE!! 73, Ellen - AF9J Who grew up only 35 miles from Lambeau Field, and marched during a Packer game halftime with the High School marching band __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition
Most of the use 4CX250 style of tubes available now came from FM base station or repeater duty. They are usually replaced when the customer complains and are well cooked at that point. Even ones that show good output are prone to secondary screen emission and are poor choices for SSB or modulators. There are also loads of military tubes floating around and if they look good and not severly overheated, the chances are that they are still good. I have about 25 150/250's here that have all passed 125W output muster on 6M as finals in a Clegg Zeus. Most have been $5 or less (many were freebies) so there are no complaints. Ive also thrown out several others. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition The tube may be fine, but unles you KNOW that, its likely not. I guess lots of these were used in broadcast service, and when they started arcing over, they were pulled and thrown in a box for sale at the hamfest. I know I bought a lot of them at fests for very little, and 99% wont work more than a few transmissions before arcing. The new ones have been in for years without problems... I was getting 3cx800's as pullouts and 80% of them were useless also. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition Ok, I don't know much about this high power stuff. highest power tube tranny i have is 36 Watts on the AM BCB for carrier current use. and actually that is the only tube tx i have. it's going to be a learning experience to get it going again. - Original Message - From: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I avoid 4cx250 pull outs as they are almost always bad. They may test fine, but they arc over after a while in use. I have about 30 of them that do that. As they are used, the stuff they made to coat the cathode (so it emits electrons) gets deposited all over inside the tube, and at some point they start arcing over. It just seems to come down to run time (filiments on). They tend to work for a while, then arc, and the more you use them the more they arc, till next time when you start over again, each time getting shorter before they arc. Maybe reducing the voltage to say 1000 volts (down from 2000) might give them more time. I consider these tubes worthless unless they were not used or have low hours on them. Not sure what new ones go for, I got 4 new ones a few years ago for $160.00, used ones used to be $5.00 and not usualy worth that. Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: [AMRadio] fs/ft: Eimac 4CX250B - Unknown Condition I got this from a radio station in a lot of stuff and it has been floating around my house for quite some time. I have no use for it as i'm into QRP. I have no idea if it works or not. It looks like it's in good condition. I'll swap it for an interesting technical trinket or best cash offer plus shipping. My interests are Part 15 AM Microcasting and Computers. Thank You, Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis Universal Life Ministries http://www.ulc.org Moderator Hunterdonfree http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hunterdonfree Moderator NeighborhoodInformer NJ/PA http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerNewJersey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NeighborhoodInformerpennsylvania __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing
Re: [AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas
Grant Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... That whole NFLN mess is a real fiasco, isn't it? We should send notes of appreciation to Jerry Jones and the NFL. And of course, if you want to buy season tickets in the new Dallas stadium with good seats, you'd best be a dot com millionnaire. It will no longer be posssible for ordinary circus folk like the rest of us to actually get to see games in the stadium :-) Grant/NQ5T Very true Grant, Many people in Wisconsin are NOT happy about this NFL Network mess. For instance people in the metro area of Madison (which has about 200,000 people), and the western part of the state (like Eau Claire with 65,000 people) will not be able to see the Packers game unless they have the NFL Network, because they are not a part of the Packers' home viewing area, in spite of the fact they they are just as staunch of fans as we are around here. Forcing the cable networks to sell it at extra cost as a part of the basic package is silly. Most people don't want to have to pay extra to see all NFL - all the time. As for the seating at the Cowboy's stadium - yeah I'd heard that even bad seats are fetching around $1000 as of this morning. Up here, it's almost impossible to get season's tickets to Packers games. The waiting list is like 35 years. And since many families will bequeath their seasons tickets to family members when they die, or don't want them anymore (the Packer franchise allows this), unless you get lucky, and somebody is selling tickets, gives you them, or (as was the case for me back in High School) you get to march during the halftime show, you're out of luck. 73, Ellen - AF9J __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas
Thank you for this information - very much appreciated as I follow basketball closely. Dave, W3ST - W3CRA - Original Message - From: Ellen Rugowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas Grant Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... That whole NFLN mess is a real fiasco, isn't it? We should send notes of appreciation to Jerry Jones and the NFL. And of course, if you want to buy season tickets in the new Dallas stadium with good seats, you'd best be a dot com millionnaire. It will no longer be posssible for ordinary circus folk like the rest of us to actually get to see games in the stadium :-) Grant/NQ5T Very true Grant, Many people in Wisconsin are NOT happy about this NFL Network mess. For instance people in the metro area of Madison (which has about 200,000 people), and the western part of the state (like Eau Claire with 65,000 people) will not be able to see the Packers game unless they have the NFL Network, because they are not a part of the Packers' home viewing area, in spite of the fact they they are just as staunch of fans as we are around here. Forcing the cable networks to sell it at extra cost as a part of the basic package is silly. Most people don't want to have to pay extra to see all NFL - all the time. As for the seating at the Cowboy's stadium - yeah I'd heard that even bad seats are fetching around $1000 as of this morning. Up here, it's almost impossible to get season's tickets to Packers games. The waiting list is like 35 years. And since many families will bequeath their seasons tickets to family members when they die, or don't want them anymore (the Packer franchise allows this), unless you get lucky, and somebody is selling tickets, gives you them, or (as was the case for me back in High School) you get to march during the halftime show, you're out of luck. 73, Ellen - AF9J __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness
Back when I was a a novice, and not old enough to buy beer, I built the forty meter version out of tin down spout. Mounted the thing on the garage roof, and ran the support/radials to the corners. Worked all states after school evenings on CW as a highschool Junior. I might mention the coil and cap arrangement suggested by W2OY, helped greatly in getting the thing to take power on 40. Man it worked great, those were wonder filled times. Jim WB2FCN I don't know why you wouldn't have used tin down spout. That beer can business has to be one of the silliest ham radio ideas anyone has EVER thought of. That's why I always figured it was a joke, even if the article didn't appear in the April issue. Downspout would have been about as cheap as the solder it took to attach all those cans to each other, and it certainly took a lot less work. I remember hearing W2OY when he was on the air. Dick, W2UJR(SK) wrote up a story published in The AM Press/Exchange, about his friendship as a JN with Mike. According to Dick, many of Mike's eccentricities were a big put-on, and actually he was a nice guy in real life. He just got a big kick out of playing his over-the-air persona. Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Thermador Modulation Xformer
Anyone on the list know the specs of the Thermador modulation transformer #CS-2160? Particularily interested in how many watts it will modulate. TNX 73, Barrie, W7ALW __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Re: IARU - VP ARRL contact by WD5BZO
The fact that the ARRL hasn't expressly declared war on AM doesn't mean they haven't done their utmost to discourage its use. You can destroy something without overtly attacking it. It can be as simple as neglect, or saying 'don't worry, it won't hurt you'. I'm not into conspiracies, but given the ARRL's track record...let's just say I'm skeptical of their intentions. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ I recall during the Docket 20777 proceeding (the original regulation-by-bandwidth proposal, which would have eliminated AM altogether on all frequencies below 28.5 mHz) a League representative spoke at an ARRL convention I attended at the Statler Hilton hotel in Boston. The subject of AM came up, and she said that the ARRL's policy towards AM could best be described as one of benign neglect. She went on to say that the League would be opposed to outlawing AM outright, but preferred to let it die a natural death. Docket 20777 was the first real wake-up call to the AM community that there was a genuine danger that AM might be eliminated by the rulemaking process, and to the FCC, the League and others, that there was strong interest in the mode and that the AM community was a force to be dealt with. When John Johnston became lifetime head of the rulemaking division of the FCC in charge of amateur radio matters, there appeared a whole string of rulemaking proposals that would have crippled AM in one way or another if not eliminated it altogether. During the 70's and 80's we were constantly destracted from enjoying our hobby by the necessity of having to repeatedly defend our position. This all culminated in the only proposal that actually made it through into the rules to damage the status of AM, the power limit issue. Perhaps it's because those of us who have been licensed since the mid 70's were conditioned over a period of years to feeling a constant threat to our mode of choice, that there is still a strong reaction whenever a threat to the well-being of AM is perceived. To me, this is perfectly understandable and for a good reason. Don k4kyv __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Re: IARU - VP ARRL contact by WD5BZO
Don...Did you forget us guys in the 50's that had Extra Class Freq's as Generals and that we got sold down the river With Incentive Licensing You talk about not getting kissed. All of a sudden we were looking at a 20WPM test...Just to gain back what we had!!! Took me till late 80's to get there... Bob W1PE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] n.qth.net] On Behalf Of D. Chester Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:26 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: [AMRadio] Re: IARU - VP ARRL contact by WD5BZO The fact that the ARRL hasn't expressly declared war on AM doesn't mean they haven't done their utmost to discourage its use. You can destroy something without overtly attacking it. It can be as simple as neglect, or saying 'don't worry, it won't hurt you'. I'm not into conspiracies, but given the ARRL's track record...let's just say I'm skeptical of their intentions. ~ Todd, KA1KAQ I recall during the Docket 20777 proceeding (the original regulation-by-bandwidth proposal, which would have eliminated AM altogether on all frequencies below 28.5 mHz) a League representative spoke at an ARRL convention I attended at the Statler Hilton hotel in Boston. The subject of AM came up, and she said that the ARRL's policy towards AM could best be described as one of benign neglect. She went on to say that the League would be opposed to outlawing AM outright, but preferred to let it die a natural death. Docket 20777 was the first real wake-up call to the AM community that there was a genuine danger that AM might be eliminated by the rulemaking process, and to the FCC, the League and others, that there was strong interest in the mode and that the AM community was a force to be dealt with. When John Johnston became lifetime head of the rulemaking division of the FCC in charge of amateur radio matters, there appeared a whole string of rulemaking proposals that would have crippled AM in one way or another if not eliminated it altogether. During the 70's and 80's we were constantly destracted from enjoying our hobby by the necessity of having to repeatedly defend our position. This all culminated in the only proposal that actually made it through into the rules to damage the status of AM, the power limit issue. Perhaps it's because those of us who have been licensed since the mid 70's were conditioned over a period of years to feeling a constant threat to our mode of choice, that there is still a strong reaction whenever a threat to the well-being of AM is perceived. To me, this is perfectly understandable and for a good reason. Don k4kyv __ __ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.ht ml List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman /listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.h tml Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] t with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas
David Knepper wrote: Thank you for this information - very much appreciated as I follow basketball closely. as in you root for the 4-10 76'ers? (said from the comfort of home, where we enjoy the 13-3 World Champion San Antonio Spurs) ;-) Ok, ok... enough - back to AM Radio. AM Radio, where if you're a Time-Warner subscriber, you can only 'listen' to the Cowboy/Packer game on WOAI 1200kHz AM. -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness
D. Chester wrote: I remember hearing W2OY when he was on the air. Dick, W2UJR(SK) wrote up a story published in The AM Press/Exchange, about his friendship as a JN with Mike. According to Dick, many of Mike's eccentricities were a big put-on, and actually he was a nice guy in real life. He just got a big kick out of playing his over-the-air persona. No Kids, no Lids, no Space Cadets, no School bus drivers... ;-) There was a thread a while back on Mike, and a link to someone's recording of his 'infamous' CQ... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) -- 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Geoff... Thanks for the welcome! I'll try to get down there in the AM on AM. The game will be on the satellite here tonight, but 80 miles is a haul for a football game. It should be a good one. The Pack is back, Roger Agnew K1KQ - Austin, TX Original Message Subject: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ From: Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, November 29, 2007 10:05 am To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Not to be confused with KA1KAQ :-) Nice to work you this morning, Roger. Your 756Pro had a GREAT AM signal into San Antonio from the Buda/Kyle area (south of Austin). I can just imagine what the signal will be like with the Collins rig and the 813's amp! We're on most every morning on 3.880, so when you get through with your 20m sched, c'mon down! You'll generally find Perry/W5KGZ near Beaumont, Wayne/W5DWP in Vidor, TX, Yogie/KC5MIP, Jon/AD5HR, Jerry/N5CBW, Geoff/W5OMR (when he's in town) and sometimes others, depending on the day. More, of course, on the weekends and holidays. Come on back, every chance you get! I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Ellen, I lived in Northbrook, IL through the 60's, so the Packers were my team. There is a bar here in Austin, TX near the UT campus that is for displaced Packer fans, but I'll watch it on the home HD big screen on Direct TV Go Packers! Roger Agnew K1KQ - Austin, TX Original Message Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ From: Ellen Rugowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, November 29, 2007 11:38 am To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to be confused with KA1KAQ :-) Nice to work you this morning, Roger. Your 756Pro had a GREAT AM signal into San Antonio from the Buda/Kyle area (south of Austin). I can just imagine what the signal will be like with the Collins rig and the 813's amp! We're on most every morning on 3.880, so when you get through with your 20m sched, c'mon down! You'll generally find Perry/W5KGZ near Beaumont, Wayne/W5DWP in Vidor, TX, Yogie/KC5MIP, Jon/AD5HR, Jerry/N5CBW, Geoff/W5OMR (when he's in town) and sometimes others, depending on the day. More, of course, on the weekends and holidays. Come on back, every chance you get! I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR I'm lucky. I live in the home viewing area for the Packers (Milwaukee [because some Packer home games were played in Milwaukee until 1996, along with Green Bay, are considered to be the Packers' home cities). Sooo, I'm going to watch the game tonight on one of the local stations (Channel12, WISN). Yeah!! Packers RULE!! 73, Ellen - AF9J Who grew up only 35 miles from Lambeau Field, and marched during a Packer game halftime with the High School marching band __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness
- Original Message - From: D. Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness I don't know why you wouldn't have used tin down spout. That beer can business has to be one of the silliest ham radio ideas anyone has EVER thought of. That's why I always figured it was a joke, even if the article didn't appear in the April issue. Downspout would have been about as cheap as the solder it took to attach all those cans to each other, and it certainly took a lot less work. Don k4kyv Don, For 2 days now you have been insulting anyone who built or considered a beer can antenna. I replied yesterday and it is repeated below. A. teenagers often didnt have those pennies or a car back in those days. Scrounging cans was easy. B. Teenagers then and now werent always known for thinking things thru. C. Hams have always been known to be thrifty. D. Were you ever a teenager? Carl KM1H BTW, I was a teenager when I had several QSO's with Mike, he was far from gruff with me or many other young hams. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness
All I can say, is I like beer from bottles. They may make good insulators, but poor antenna's. I cant say the list has been interesting lately, anyone got any posts about AM, vintage gear, tube stuff, homebrew info, or anything else of intrest to post about? I have a couple of old yaesu FT102,s on the way, which should be fun to play with. Who has what that sparks their interest that they will play with over the winter? I need to homebrew a couple antenna tuners, maybe put up a resonant 40 meter dipole to go along with the G5RV, and get on 40 meters and have some good QSO's about radio stuff, the posts here have been quite poor lately Anyone building anything? Brett N2DTS __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
Frankly I don't care which among ARRL officials passed along a specific bandwidth number at the IARU conference in Brazil. It should not have been uttered without clearing it with U.S. licensees expecting to support the Region 2 plan. The concept of using specific numbers is wrong when applied to the Amateur Service, and should now be challenged and revised OUT of both the Region 1 and Region 2 plans as inappropriate. Ramón, XE1KK, an IARU rep from Mexico, was so kind as to return my call as I struggled to find anyone who was at the table in Brazil. The U.S. delegates were not returning phone calls, and I knew action need to be taken quickly, so I stepped around League officials and connected with several non-U.S. delegates. Ramón expressed dismay when I recounted a brief history of failed ARRL attempts domestically to achieve what they apparently had won at the IARU. A failed bandwidth Petition withdrawn because of opposition expressed to the FCC; an FCC Order against the League's request to impose the force of law to voluntary band plans, and the failure of a Petition to the FCC to impose bandwidth limitations. So when I asked him where the bandwidth specifications came from in the IARU Region 2 plan, he said (rough quote, notes not in front of me) That was Paul Rinaldo. He was concerned about people running wider than that. Another non-U.S. delegate confirmed the information that Ramón had volunteered, and the context in which it was conveyed. The context, which is hard to misconstrue twice, is that Rinaldo presented the number without any accompanying documentation as a basis it would be appropriate in the plan being discussed in Brazil. And, just like other modifications and adaptations that make the Region 2 plan different than the earlier plan in Region 1, there was and should have been discussion by the club representing ALL U.S. licensees (per the IARU charter), that there is a strong, vibrant community of people in Region 2 who enjoy AM, and whose operations should be placed in the main table recognizing other activities and modes. To that end, the League failed its constituents in Brazil, and by not immediately amending that error, continues to be of disservice. More broadly, the ARRL, as the most influential policy force among IARU clubs, has failed to push back on needless specifications that will confuse rather than complement a voluntary band plan we all wish to support. It is my contention that the ARRL is actually behind the bandwidth push for the reasons we've already discussed in great detail. Paul/VJB Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness
GE Brett (and the group), You're correct..not much of interest. Let me contribute to the boredom, if I may. My post asking for 4.7uh RF chokes for the RANGER I restoration were met with order them from. So, I rolled my own. Probably the only person in Florida to visit a Radio Shack today and come up with some 100uh, 2-amp RF chokes. Cut a couple of them down to size and ended up with ~ 5.0 uh lashup that will meet the needs of the Ranger restoration. Week before that, I took on my RCA 74-B ribbon microphone. Re-ribboned it! Still shaking from the experience. But when the signal from it is passed through the Collins 212Z-1 mixer, it's as sweet a sound as one could ask for. Now in the process of interfacing it with the KWM-1, KWM-2 and 32S-3 rigs. Also with the DX-100/R-390A lashup that I'm enjoying on AM. Not sure what the digital groups are doing or whether other OT's like myself are having fun or not...But I am. Sri to post such a mundane post as above, but I like to think that's what many of us OT's are doing daily. Worrying about the IARU and the ARRL is academic. I don't like much of what the ARRL does on any given day. But I won't stop and waste time worrying about things I (nor others) can reasonably control. I'm enjoying AM and the hobby in general. Thanks, Brett, for asking about things of interest. Best 73 to all de W4MIL Chuck Palm Coast, FL. As always, YMMV. -Original Message- From: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 5:28 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness All I can say, is I like beer from bottles. They may make good insulators, but poor antenna's. I cant say the list has been interesting lately, anyone got any posts about AM, vintage gear, tube stuff, homebrew info, or anything else of intrest to post about? I have a couple of old yaesu FT102,s on the way, which should be fun to play with. Who has what that sparks their interest that they will play with over the winter? I need to homebrew a couple antenna tuners, maybe put up a resonant 40 meter dipole to go along with the G5RV, and get on 40 meters and have some good QSO's about radio stuff, the posts here have been quite poor lately Anyone building anything? Brett N2DTS __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp000503 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness
Well, I worked w3ecg (John) last weekend, who was in the hospital for a year, heart problems it seems, he used to be on a lot with w3duq, both running FT102's into amplifiers. Last weekend I was using the 3X4D32 rig, giving the 813 rig a rest. 40 meter conditions were very good, low noise, good skip conditions, not crowded, what more could you ask for? My new FT102 should arrive late tomorrow, which I am excited about, I may try an get on with it barefoot at 40 watts on Saturday, but I might also be playing with it , doing the DUQ audio mods, replacing meter lights with LED's, and generaly having fun with radio. Its coming up on radio season, once the fall yard work is done, time to build something! Brett N2DTS - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness GE Brett (and the group), You're correct..not much of interest. Let me contribute to the boredom, if I may. My post asking for 4.7uh RF chokes for the RANGER I restoration were met with order them from. So, I rolled my own. Probably the only person in Florida to visit a Radio Shack today and come up with some 100uh, 2-amp RF chokes. Cut a couple of them down to size and ended up with ~ 5.0 uh lashup that will meet the needs of the Ranger restoration. Week before that, I took on my RCA 74-B ribbon microphone. Re-ribboned it! Still shaking from the experience. But when the signal from it is passed through the Collins 212Z-1 mixer, it's as sweet a sound as one could ask for. Now in the process of interfacing it with the KWM-1, KWM-2 and 32S-3 rigs. Also with the DX-100/R-390A lashup that I'm enjoying on AM. Not sure what the digital groups are doing or whether other OT's like myself are having fun or not...But I am. Sri to post such a mundane post as above, but I like to think that's what many of us OT's are doing daily. Worrying about the IARU and the ARRL is academic. I don't like much of what the ARRL does on any given day. But I won't stop and waste time worrying about things I (nor others) can reasonably control. I'm enjoying AM and the hobby in general. Thanks, Brett, for asking about things of interest. Best 73 to all de W4MIL Chuck Palm Coast, FL. As always, YMMV. -Original Message- From: Brett Gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 5:28 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Re: Beer can silliness All I can say, is I like beer from bottles. They may make good insulators, but poor antenna's. I cant say the list has been interesting lately, anyone got any posts about AM, vintage gear, tube stuff, homebrew info, or anything else of intrest to post about? I have a couple of old yaesu FT102,s on the way, which should be fun to play with. Who has what that sparks their interest that they will play with over the winter? I need to homebrew a couple antenna tuners, maybe put up a resonant 40 meter dipole to go along with the G5RV, and get on 40 meters and have some good QSO's about radio stuff, the posts here have been quite poor lately Anyone building anything? Brett N2DTS __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp000503 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas
At 03:26 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote: David Knepper wrote: Thank you for this information - very much appreciated as I follow basketball closely. as in you root for the 4-10 76'ers? (said from the comfort of home, where we enjoy the 13-3 World Champion San Antonio Spurs) ;-) Ok, ok... enough - back to AM Radio. AM Radio, where if you're a Time-Warner subscriber, you can only 'listen' to the Cowboy/Packer game on WOAI 1200kHz AM. __ Up here in Wisconsin (Packer Country), people are going more than a little bit nuts over this game. NFL Network is in an argument with the local cable TV companies, so the game won't be on cable. As a result, people are doing insane things... like renting motel rooms in the coverage areas of TV stations that are carrying the game, and driving tens or even hundreds of miles just to have a set that can see it. Dish Network has been flooded with new subscribers around here; they've been installing dishes almost 24 / 7, just to get the game. At work today there was a big, Whoopty Doo panic; we got hit with a request for a satellite uplink, with like 15 minutes notice. It usually takes longer than that for me to warm up the TWT power amps in the transmitter. I was in a full panic mode, winging it, cutting corners all over the place to make the satellite time window. We didn't know WHY or WHAT... we just knew that the Governor ordered it. When I went up on Galaxy 17, transponder 6, and opened up the video line to the program studio, I saw Jim Doyle, Governor of the State of Wisconsin, on the return signal monitor. It turns out that the recipient of the uplink was CNBC, who wanted to interview him on HIM impressions of the squabble between NFL Network and the cable companies! Three minutes of interview time and it was history. It's interesting to watch as an outsider... I don't pray at the First Church of Vince Lombardi, and the color combination of green and gold frankly makes me nauseous. For that matter, professional sports of all sorts put me to sleep; the closest I come to being a fan is occasionally going to watch women's roller derby!!! GRIN LOVE those on track pile-ups, with all that feminine pulchritude getting waved around!!! Professional football? I just don't get it. Mr. T., W9LBB __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
Too important to say ENOUGH ALREADY... W1GUD On Nov 29, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Larry Will wrote: I thought the moderator put this whole thread to BED. ENOUGH ALREADY!! W3LW At 05:47 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote: Frankly I don't care which among ARRL officials passed along a specific bandwidth number at the IARU conference in Brazil. It should not have been uttered without clearing it with U.S. licensees expecting to support the Region 2 plan. The concept of using specific numbers is wrong when applied to the Amateur Service, and should now be challenged and revised OUT of both the Region 1 and Region 2 plans as inappropriate. Ramón, XE1KK, an IARU rep from Mexico, was so kind as to return my call as I struggled to find anyone who was at the table in Brazil. The U.S. delegates were not returning phone calls, and I knew action need to be taken quickly, so I stepped around League officials and connected with several non-U.S. delegates. Ramón expressed dismay when I recounted a brief history of failed ARRL attempts domestically to achieve what they apparently had won at the IARU. A failed bandwidth Petition withdrawn because of opposition expressed to the FCC; an FCC Order against the League's request to impose the force of law to voluntary band plans, and the failure of a Petition to the FCC to impose bandwidth limitations. So when I asked him where the bandwidth specifications came from in the IARU Region 2 plan, he said (rough quote, notes not in front of me) That was Paul Rinaldo. He was concerned about people running wider than that. Another non-U.S. delegate confirmed the information that Ramón had volunteered, and the context in which it was conveyed. The context, which is hard to misconstrue twice, is that Rinaldo presented the number without any accompanying documentation as a basis it would be appropriate in the plan being discussed in Brazil. And, just like other modifications and adaptations that make the Region 2 plan different than the earlier plan in Region 1, there was and should have been discussion by the club representing ALL U.S. licensees (per the IARU charter), that there is a strong, vibrant community of people in Region 2 who enjoy AM, and whose operations should be placed in the main table recognizing other activities and modes. To that end, the League failed its constituents in Brazil, and by not immediately amending that error, continues to be of disservice. More broadly, the ARRL, as the most influential policy force among IARU clubs, has failed to push back on needless specifications that will confuse rather than complement a voluntary band plan we all wish to support. It is my contention that the ARRL is actually behind the bandwidth push for the reasons we've already discussed in great detail. Paul/VJB Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] OT: Greenbay/Dallas
At 11:49 AM 11/29/2007, you wrote: As for the seating at the Cowboy's stadium - yeah I'd heard that even bad seats are fetching around $1000 as of this morning. Up here, it's almost impossible to get season's tickets to Packers games. The waiting list is like 35 years. And since many families will bequeath their seasons tickets to family members when they die, or don't want them anymore (the Packer franchise allows this), unless you get lucky, and somebody is selling tickets, gives you them, or (as was the case for me back in High School) you get to march during the halftime show, you're out of luck. 73, Ellen - AF9J TELL me about it!!! A few years ago I went to a wake that damned near turned into a fist fight... LITERALLY. The deceased held two season Lambeau Stadium tickets, on the 45 yeard line; he'd had them for over 30 years. Believe it or not the relatives went absolutely NUTS arguing over who was gonna get 'em... totally ignoring the widow, who wasn't about to let go of the damned things! The battle heated up over his fishing boat and trailer; the Guest of Honor's brother essentially DEMANDED it! Half the crowd was already buzzed (beer and brandy on the food table), and I'd say we were about 30 seconds away from punches being thrown. The big surprise... the widow made a bee line to ME, and asked You went fishing with Rich once, didn't you? I told her yes; he'd shown me his favorite walleye hole. Congratulations she said... if there's a trailer hitch on your pickup, you've got yourself a boat! With that, she turned to the relatives and said I like football TOO. Up here, there have been lawsuits and crazy divorce settlements over custody of the Packer tickets. Absolutely astonishing. Mr. T., W9LBB __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] More about Beer Cans and Radio Matters
Will anyone else here admit to remembering the Electronics Illustrated Send your Beer Cans to the FCC editorial? It was from an issue in the mid 60s. I can't remember all of the details, but I remember laughing about the silliness of it with my dad, who happened to be the family member who was reading the magazine to me that evening. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] Seeking Info on a Boatanchor Receiver
This inquiry was posted to qrp-l earlier this week. I suggested to the gentleman that someone here may be able to help him. If you can give him any information on this receiver, please reply to him directly. Thanks, K5XU - Original Message - From: Cal Cotner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Does anyone have any information on an E.M. Sargent 11AA receiver, hopefully a schematic or manual? This is a tuned radio frequency (TRF) band-switched communications receiver, manufactured in Oakland, CA, during the mid-1930s. I inquired on the Boatanchor reflector and got a bit of information. Apparently these are fairly rare. 72/73, Cal K4JSI __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
I thought the moderator put this whole thread to BED. ENOUGH ALREADY!! W3LW At 05:47 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote: Frankly I don't care which among ARRL officials passed along a specific bandwidth number at the IARU conference in Brazil. It should not have been uttered without clearing it with U.S. licensees expecting to support the Region 2 plan. The concept of using specific numbers is wrong when applied to the Amateur Service, and should now be challenged and revised OUT of both the Region 1 and Region 2 plans as inappropriate. Ramón, XE1KK, an IARU rep from Mexico, was so kind as to return my call as I struggled to find anyone who was at the table in Brazil. The U.S. delegates were not returning phone calls, and I knew action need to be taken quickly, so I stepped around League officials and connected with several non-U.S. delegates. Ramón expressed dismay when I recounted a brief history of failed ARRL attempts domestically to achieve what they apparently had won at the IARU. A failed bandwidth Petition withdrawn because of opposition expressed to the FCC; an FCC Order against the League's request to impose the force of law to voluntary band plans, and the failure of a Petition to the FCC to impose bandwidth limitations. So when I asked him where the bandwidth specifications came from in the IARU Region 2 plan, he said (rough quote, notes not in front of me) That was Paul Rinaldo. He was concerned about people running wider than that. Another non-U.S. delegate confirmed the information that Ramón had volunteered, and the context in which it was conveyed. The context, which is hard to misconstrue twice, is that Rinaldo presented the number without any accompanying documentation as a basis it would be appropriate in the plan being discussed in Brazil. And, just like other modifications and adaptations that make the Region 2 plan different than the earlier plan in Region 1, there was and should have been discussion by the club representing ALL U.S. licensees (per the IARU charter), that there is a strong, vibrant community of people in Region 2 who enjoy AM, and whose operations should be placed in the main table recognizing other activities and modes. To that end, the League failed its constituents in Brazil, and by not immediately amending that error, continues to be of disservice. More broadly, the ARRL, as the most influential policy force among IARU clubs, has failed to push back on needless specifications that will confuse rather than complement a voluntary band plan we all wish to support. It is my contention that the ARRL is actually behind the bandwidth push for the reasons we've already discussed in great detail. Paul/VJB Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
RE: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Hay Roger...Good to hear you are on AM...Join up with us on 3.890 here in the North Texas area... We used to talk a lot about Collins stuff...Got a good group of x Collons guys around on AM... GO COWBOYS Y Very Best 73's Bob W1PE The Voice of Mesquite www.w1pe.com Money is only temporary, but radios are forever - Jim Little aka the old dog/K5BAI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] n.qth.net] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:08 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ Geoff... Thanks for the welcome! I'll try to get down there in the AM on AM. The game will be on the satellite here tonight, but 80 miles is a haul for a football game. It should be a good one. The Pack is back, Roger Agnew K1KQ - Austin, TX Original Message Subject: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ From: Geoff/W5OMR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, November 29, 2007 10:05 am To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Not to be confused with KA1KAQ :-) Nice to work you this morning, Roger. Your 756Pro had a GREAT AM signal into San Antonio from the Buda/Kyle area (south of Austin). I can just imagine what the signal will be like with the Collins rig and the 813's amp! We're on most every morning on 3.880, so when you get through with your 20m sched, c'mon down! You'll generally find Perry/W5KGZ near Beaumont, Wayne/W5DWP in Vidor, TX, Yogie/KC5MIP, Jon/AD5HR, Jerry/N5CBW, Geoff/W5OMR (when he's in town) and sometimes others, depending on the day. More, of course, on the weekends and holidays. Come on back, every chance you get! I'm still searching for a place to watch the Cowboys/Packers game, this evening... -- Driving your AM Rig without a scope, is like driving your car at night, without headlights. (K4KYV) 73 = Best Regards, -Geoff/W5OMR __ __ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.ht ml List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman /listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.h tml Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] t with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ __ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.ht ml List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman /listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.h tml Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] t with the word unsubscribe in the message body. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
Larry, as Brian said no one I know stopped the topic. As one of the other moderators, I did not. I know you post pertinent topics from time to time and contribute to the group in a positive way. I, too, hope you reconsider leaving. To everyone else, I suggest that if any meaning outside the subject line is added anywhere in the post, then change the subject line to reflect that change so those of us who do not wish to read a topic will know. In that way, one can delete topics they do not wish to read. If you wish to post to a topic and comment about something else, please make it two separate posts. Maybe that will help. Jim/W5JO Moderator - Original Message - From: Larry Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion I thought the moderator put this whole thread to BED. ENOUGH ALREADY!! W3LW At 05:47 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote: Frankly I don't care which among ARRL officials passed along a specific bandwidth number at the IARU conference in Brazil. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
W3LW wrote: I thought the moderator put this whole thread to BED. ENOUGH ALREADY!! Whoa there beg fella, when did that happen? I didn't see such an announcement. Could you please pass it along? I do recall the message below from WA5AM reminding people to discuss things in a gentlemanly fashion. I did not get the impression we were no longer to discuss the IARU bandplan controversy. Steve WD8DAS In a message dated 11/27/2007 2:40:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The following statement to the list members is due to many private emails I've received, and several attitudes I have observed that are not conducive to our good relations on this list: - It seems obvious this IARU topic has caused a lot of fighting, bickering, and spiteful remarks between a lot of people on this list. To me, it is a shame we can't discuss things in a professional manner, but no, the sarcasm, and ranting seems to take precedence. We are fighting among ourselves people, and the last thing we need is to come to dislike other AM'ers due to a possible problem we might (or not) face together. Also, I would ask that words that refer to body parts, or simply expletives in general, that really aren't needed in statements you make, NOT be used on this list, I don't care what religion (or not) you happen to be. That is a warning, and I usually don't give those, as most here know. Basically, do NOT use cuss words or those that even closely relate to any body part here, we can hear enough of that on the air, or in person. I'm not trying to say I'm someone that does not say a cuss word from time to time, but I see no reason to do it on this list for no good reason. Got it? We are a group of many walks of life with a membership of about 400, many of which would rather discuss operation, and technical issues of radio, etc., but I am not opposed to discussing issues of regulation when it comes to the AM mode, however I see this issue getting out of hand real fast among our group. We will ALL have to make our descions about IF we want to email or snail mail the ARRL or IARU individually. Express your opinion here, but DO NOT criticise others from this point forward for the idea or opinion they might have. Your satisfaction of, or not of, the ARRL, or IARU would better be directed to them. Why waste time arguing with your fellow AM'ers, and on this list, which I'm pretty certain the ARRL does _not_ monitor. I hope my point is well taken, and I truly hope that we can get back to being gentlemen with one another in haste. 73 Brian / wa5am AMRadio gate keeper if you will... ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's IARU bandwidth suggestion
You know, looking back over the responses I've received from ARRL directors and officials, not one of them ever really addressed my contention that this sort of restrictive, negative bandplan is not a good idea. They concentrated on the benefits of other, positive bandplans, those which enable a wide variety of modes to flourish. But this IARU Region 2 plan cuts out existing modes and will make it harder for some future modes to be developed. There's a parallel in another regulatory area that impacts ham radio: zoning and restrictive covenants. These regs and agreements can either be positive, protecting freedom of land use, within wide limits, and ensuring that we can erect antennas and set up stations... or they can be negative, tightly controlling and limiting, blocking antennas and stations. I think you know which kind is better for ham radio ops. And the same is true for bandplans. Steve WD8DAS ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's IARU bandwidth suggestion
WA3VJB writes: Frankly I don't care which among ARRL officials passed along a specific bandwidth number at the IARU conference in Brazil. But I continue to wonder why Rinaldo doesn't deny it himself - if he didn't actually propose that element of the bandplan. The concept of using specific numbers is wrong when applied to the Amateur Service, and should now be challenged and revised OUT of both the Region 1 and Region 2 plans as inappropriate. Good point - it is especially improper without any specs defining the bandwidth or how it is to be measured. Steve WD8DAS - ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
Brain, I appreciate your comments but unfortunately looking over the traffic for the last several months too high of a percentage is nothing to do with helping other hams, tech info, etc. The packers and beer cans comes to mind recently and I could go on. When I post something technical I usually get no responses. I use the titles to delete but people change the content and it just takes too long to sort out any good from the noise. Only Bacon has any real good input. I just do not have the time even to delete 80 out of 100 messages coming in. Good luck and thanks. Larry At 09:01 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote: Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion X-Originating-IP: [63.238.179.60] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion
On Nov 29, 2007 6:59 PM, Warren Elly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too important to say ENOUGH ALREADY... W1GUD On Nov 29, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Larry Will wrote: I thought the moderator put this whole thread to BED. ENOUGH ALREADY!! W3LW Hi Larry, I got your email wanting to unsubscribe, and will comply with your request, with regret however. This will pass as a lot of other regulatory issues have in the past. I wish you would re-consider staying on the list. I will give it a day, and if I don't hear back, I'll remove your membership. Actually, I didn't put this thread to bed, as it is within the list rules as a legitimate topic, since it does relate to the AM mode. All I wanted put to bed was some of the bickering I've seen over the last few months in this topic, AND others. I know there will be disagreements, but some of the postings in recent times have shown obvious disrespect, and some nasty sarcasm. That's what I would like to see subdued. The IARU topic was NOT officially declared off topic on the AM Radio list by any moderator that I know of, so long as everyone does their best to remain gentlemanly with their comments. I did state that an email or snail mail to the ARRL or IARU would likely do a lot more to get attention. It was suggested to me that I have another list just for the politics and regulations as they pertain to our mode, but I simply can't keep up with more than I'm doing now. If someone else would like to get an email list going for that, I would certainly welcome it, and help promote it as much as possible. I truly wish those that have requested being removed from the list, would just consider hitting the DELETE button. As I said, this will pass in time as most things do. One request I urge the members to comply with, is that further postings/replies of _this_ topic include IARU in the subject line, so those that do not want to sift, can simply delete the posting, or set up a filter in their email client. Thanks, Brian / wa5am __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Welcome K1KQ
Roger there is also a group that meets on 3.705 about 4 PM. You are welcome to join that group as well. Jim/W5JO Hay Roger...Good to hear you are on AM...Join up with us on 3.890 here in the North Texas area... We used to talk a lot about Collins stuff...Got a good group of x Collons guys around on AM... GO COWBOYS Y Very Best 73's Bob W1PE The Voice of Mesquite __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
Re: [AMRadio] Halli HT37 Phasing Mod problem
Ahhh, that makes sense. There will certainly be inherent phase shift difference in the circuit to begin with at both ends. I can do that ballanced low Imp. Just need to know where to drop it in the circuit. Thanks!! Bill, KB3DKS/1 jeremy-ca writes: Ive owned many phasing rigs starting with a HB W2EWL, all the Central Electronics, and a pair of HT-37's. While a single tone can be used to get a good indicated null it is only at that one frequency. It is better to use two tones. If that isnt possible then use a tape loop or digital recorder with a fairly flat speech recording. Something recorded off the BCB with good AVC works well. Then adjust and make sure the high frequencies are suppressed as well as the low. Carl KM1H __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.
[AMRadio] direction of the list (WAS: Rinaldo's bandwidth suggestion)
Jim Wilhite wrote: Larry, as Brian said no one I know stopped the topic. As one of the other moderators, I did not. I know you post pertinent topics from time to time and contribute to the group in a positive way. I, too, hope you reconsider leaving. To everyone else, I suggest that if any meaning outside the subject line is added anywhere in the post, then change the subject line to reflect that change so those of us who do not wish to read a topic will know. In that way, one can delete topics they do not wish to read. If you wish to post to a topic and comment about something else, please make it two separate posts. Maybe that will help. Jim/W5JO Moderator (I Sent a copy direct to Larry, as well, just in case I missed his departure.) What hurts a subject line most, is when someone replies to the subject at hand, doesn't quote the previous poster, AND changes the subject. that's where things get confusing. I absolutely HATE it when Paul/VJB does that. If you've got your mail client setup to be a thread-reader, you can't follow the thread, because the subject line gets changed. I, for one, am sorry to see you go, Larry, but I understand your frustration. Still, there's two basic rules to every list, moderated or not; 1) Don't be excessively annoying (a line I tend to straddle from time to time ;-) 2) don't be easily annoyed. See? It works both ways. Every time I try to tell someone something technical, I get told 'no, that can't be'. When I try to give proof, and links, they're not even looked at. So, what's the point? No one wants to talk about building. No one seems to care about the academics required to calculate what's needed for a circuit, or the overall operating procedure of our mode. Some of us seem to only want to talk about where their next Broadcast rig is coming from so it can be converted to Ham Bands. That's fine. But, for the amount of time and effort there is in doing that, a separate final and modulator deck could be built, using the same components and power supplies and then the thing would be better suited (probably) for the Ham bands. I see eyebrows raised, out there. Yes, we -are- Amateur operators. Broadcast rigs are run by professionals, on commercial frequencies designed to run on -those- frequencies. Revamping the entire final tank circuit is what's needed to move the rig to the ham bands (in most cases). Or, others are talking about restoring their precious (_insert_commercial_manufacturer_here) rig. Collecting old rigs isn't a bad thing. It helps keep some of the older equipment on the air. But, it's not the -only- thing. Ham Radio was built on individuals having the knowledge of knowing how to 'make it work'. Nowadays, people want step-by-step instructions. Shoot, half the fun is learning. The other part of 'fun', follows as pride, I reckon, in knowing that you're actually transmitting a signal on a piece of machinery that YOU built, and are operating! For me, it's Brett/N2DTS, John/WA5BXO (who's also disgusted with the whole thing) Don/K4KYV and Bacon/WA3WDR who are the technical marvels of the group. I'm probably leaving someone out, and I'll get kick in the rear for it, later... but them guys are tops. Non-list-active heros are Otis/K5SWK and Perry/W5KGZ. Like Brett said Who's building what? I've still got parts and pieces and enough 4-65's, 4-125's and even a single 4-250 to build -something-. I just need to get rid of a -lot- of stuff in my shack that I DON'T (or wont) need so I can get busy working on -something-. What I need more of is 'time'. At the same time we, as a community, have -other- similar interests and other hobbies... RC flying of model planes, watching Sports (GO COWBOYS!) or talking about April 1st articles in QST. I guess not everyone reads every single message that comes through here. While the Beer Can antenna might not have been an April Fool's article, it -was- written at a time when the cans were made of a much different materials than they are now. They would -take- soldering-to, then. But, it seems that fact has been glossed over by many people and there are still those who will direct animosity at someone else, because of their own mis-understandings. I just don't get the attitude of because I'm behind this Keyboard, I'm 10ft tall and Bullet Proof! It seems to me to be pretty much similar to being behind a CB microphone, hiding behind a 'handle' and picking a fight with someone else, just because you're 'anonymous'. We are Hams. We are better than that. We need to remember that, and to re-learn to treat our other list occupants (ergo, other AM operators) with more kindness and respect. There certainly -has- been a lot of name-calling, finger-jabbing and back-biting going on, lately. It doesn't look good, as a reflection on -us-. Sometimes, we rationalize it as 'replying-in-kind', which basically boils down to (s)he
