Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
I enjoy VHF/UHF-FM, and of course the more relaxed QSOs on HF/AM/SSB.I have been involved with the quick TR QSOs as well as long "key downs" on all the above modes. It's funny to me that some folks seem to key down longer and speak more slowly on SSB, and even slwwweeer on AM. I am new to AM and love it. I do not understand why AM is even more relaxed than SSB. It's not a bad thing, please don't take this as a complaint or anything like that. Is AM audio so warm it is that soothing? Probably. The old modified AM Broadcast Transmitters sound great, and my goal is to have one this year. I have wanted one long before I was a ham. I used to have two 1kW units and did not do much with them and got rid of them. DUMB! My search for old transmitters is going pretty well. I have a recently retired 5kW Harris AM Transmitter in my garage, and I am trying to sell it, and then turn around and by an old Gates, Collins, RCA, or McMartin 1kW unit. I must have one! My goal is this year. The Harris is next to impossible to convert, and would be extremely inefficient and expensive to even run the filaments, not to mention it wants 120/208 3-phase power!I will "see you" on AM and we will warm up some tubes. BrianKF5CCN __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
Very true Rob. The band/conditions do have to support the armchair type copy for a good ragchew. The assumption is that these conditions are satisfied. I had some great ragchews on all of the HF bands at some point or another. It's a matter of finding another willing station. Ragchews do not HAVE to be limited to AM but that is what I prefer and I have a feeling that most people on this list concur. It indeed IS the art of conversation. This is a skill that comes more naturally to some of us than others. I also notice it depends on who I'm in the QSO with. It's does seem to be a dynamic between the station involved. I think that opening a dialog concerning the ragchew will help at least some of us. Surely it can't hurt! 73, John KX5JT -Original Message- From: Rob Atkinson To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 11:02 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing I don't particularly care for the fast TR type qso. I hear it mostly in big groups but even though I currently run mostly modern gear, I have to switch a couple of things and prefer longer transmissions where I have a few seconds to check the carrier level and see things "settle down" so I like the format in which we all take a turn amongst one or two or three stations. Yes, before we get to the art of ragchewing, the stations and band have to be able to support a ragchew QSO. I like daytime in winter on 75, night on 160 in winter and days in summer on 40 for this reason. If there is an art to ragchewing, it is only the art of conversation and that is to simply find something about the other person and ask questions and get him to talk about it while you take notes and ask more questions. We all love to talk about what we are interested in don't we? All you have to do is find that thing and let the other ham tell you about it. 73 Rob K5UJ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
I don't particularly care for the fast TR type qso. I hear it mostly in big groups but even though I currently run mostly modern gear, I have to switch a couple of things and prefer longer transmissions where I have a few seconds to check the carrier level and see things "settle down" so I like the format in which we all take a turn amongst one or two or three stations. Yes, before we get to the art of ragchewing, the stations and band have to be able to support a ragchew QSO. I like daytime in winter on 75, night on 160 in winter and days in summer on 40 for this reason. If there is an art to ragchewing, it is only the art of conversation and that is to simply find something about the other person and ask questions and get him to talk about it while you take notes and ask more questions. We all love to talk about what we are interested in don't we? All you have to do is find that thing and let the other ham tell you about it. 73 Rob K5UJ __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
Hey there John! Thanks for the kind words. I always enjoy our QSO's as well. I have been listening to you and others on 7.160 AM as well on the weekend afternoons and I will be getting something in the air up soon to allow me to join you all there on 40 meters AM. 73 John KX5JT -Original Message- From: j...@k5see.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 9:13 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing Great effort, John. I have enjoyed our QSO's and look forward to more in the future. Lately, I have been striving for brevity and conciseness, as there are more AM enthusiasts joining the fray. Thanks for tabling the subject. 73 de John, K5SEE __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
Well Bob! I've had more than one QSO with AMer's from the Northwest in recent history! I certainly remember a few nice QSO's with Steve, KL7OF from TumTum, WA. You gotta call CQ sometimes, you may be surprised! Steve was engaging and interesting using a homebrew transmitter and as I recall, he was soon to be heading to Alaska, which I believe he made the migration up there for the summer now. 73, John KX5JT -Original Message- From: Bob Macklin To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:54 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing What do we talk about these days? I have not heard an AM transmission here in the PNW in about 4 years now. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. "Real Radios Glow In The Dark" he mode. __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
Hello Steve, You bring up excellent points concerning the fast break-in mode of AM. I do give a nod to the fast break in type of operation towards the end of the article but I will add a bit more to that section. The low power and limited antenna argument for faster break-in operation is certainly valid. I shall amend and add these considerations with an acknowledgment to your call. This is the type of comments that will help to build a more complete article, thanks! 73 John -Original Message- From: sbjohns...@aol.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 8:46 pm Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing On AM I enjoy QSOs using what you describe as a "ragchew" (longer transmissions) roundtable *and* the fast-turnaround group conversations . Most AMers do the long transmissions, I admit, but it should not be considered the only way it is done on the mode. Your essay's discussion of "the art conversation" should be helpful in getting people to join in AM QSOs, but I wouldn't emphasize that the long-winded roundtable is the only way to use AM. That only leads to arguments among hams. Also, it can be a real problem when low-power or limited-antenna stations try to do the long transmissions. Much better that they make a short transmission and pass it along, lest they go into a fade and confuse everyone by their disappearance. Isn't it better to choose the operating style that suits the group or the situation, rather than try to say there is only one right way to do AM? Steve WD8DAS sbjohns...@aol.com http://www.wd8das.net/ Radio is your best entertainment value. -Original Message- From: johndt...@post.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 1:54 pm Subject: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing Hello AM enthusiasts. I think there is a fine art to ragchewing. Because I sometimes struggle with it I wrote up a little article about it. Hope you all enjoy it and I would be open to anything that might be useful to add to it. http://kx5jt.net/AM/QSO.htm 73, KX5JT __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
Great effort, John. I have enjoyed our QSO's and look forward to more in the future. Lately, I have been striving for brevity and conciseness, as there are more AM enthusiasts joining the fray. Thanks for tabling the subject. 73 de John, K5SEE -Original Message- From: johndt...@post.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 1:54 pm Subject: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing Hello AM enthusiasts. I think there is a fine art to ragchewing. Because I sometimes struggle with it I wrote up a little article about it. Hope you all enjoy it and I would be open to anything that might be useful to add to it. http://kx5jt.net/AM/QSO.htm 73, KX5JT __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
What do we talk about these days? I have not heard an AM transmission here in the PNW in about 4 years now. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. "Real Radios Glow In The Dark" - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing > On AM I enjoy QSOs using what you describe as a "ragchew" (longer > transmissions) roundtable *and* the fast-turnaround group conversations > . Most AMers do the long transmissions, I admit, but it should not be > considered the only way it is done on the mode. > > Your essay's discussion of "the art conversation" should be helpful in > getting people to join in AM QSOs, but I wouldn't emphasize that the > long-winded roundtable is the only way to use AM. That only leads to > arguments among hams. > > Also, it can be a real problem when low-power or limited-antenna > stations try to do the long transmissions. Much better that they make > a short transmission and pass it along, lest they go into a fade and > confuse everyone by their disappearance. > > Isn't it better to choose the operating style that suits the group or > the situation, rather than try to say there is only one right way to do > AM? > > Steve WD8DAS > > sbjohns...@aol.com > http://www.wd8das.net/ > > Radio is your best entertainment value. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: johndt...@post.com > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 1:54 pm > Subject: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing > > > Hello AM enthusiasts. I think there is a fine art to ragchewing. > Because I sometimes struggle with it I wrote up a little article about > it. Hope you all enjoy it and I would be open to anything that might > be useful to add to it. > > http://kx5jt.net/AM/QSO.htm > > 73, KX5JT > > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
On AM I enjoy QSOs using what you describe as a "ragchew" (longer transmissions) roundtable *and* the fast-turnaround group conversations . Most AMers do the long transmissions, I admit, but it should not be considered the only way it is done on the mode. Your essay's discussion of "the art conversation" should be helpful in getting people to join in AM QSOs, but I wouldn't emphasize that the long-winded roundtable is the only way to use AM. That only leads to arguments among hams. Also, it can be a real problem when low-power or limited-antenna stations try to do the long transmissions. Much better that they make a short transmission and pass it along, lest they go into a fade and confuse everyone by their disappearance. Isn't it better to choose the operating style that suits the group or the situation, rather than try to say there is only one right way to do AM? Steve WD8DAS sbjohns...@aol.com http://www.wd8das.net/ Radio is your best entertainment value. -Original Message- From: johndt...@post.com To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Apr 25, 2010 1:54 pm Subject: [AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing Hello AM enthusiasts. I think there is a fine art to ragchewing. Because I sometimes struggle with it I wrote up a little article about it. Hope you all enjoy it and I would be open to anything that might be useful to add to it. http://kx5jt.net/AM/QSO.htm 73, KX5JT __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] Twoer
Twoer and Sixer are Heathkits. Hallicrafters wasn't really into kits. Bob - N0DGN On 4/25/2010 3:08 PM, CL in NC wrote: > This fellow had some estate sale gear for sale, I purchased a couple Halli > rx's from him He had twoer, sixers and I think the CB version. Ad was on > QTH. > > w1...@hotmail.com > > > Charlie, W4MEC in NC > __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[AMRadio] Twoer
This fellow had some estate sale gear for sale, I purchased a couple Halli rx's from him He had twoer, sixers and I think the CB version. Ad was on QTH. w1...@hotmail.com Charlie, W4MEC in NC __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[AMRadio] The Art of Ragchewing
Hello AM enthusiasts. I think there is a fine art to ragchewing. Because I sometimes struggle with it I wrote up a little article about it. Hope you all enjoy it and I would be open to anything that might be useful to add to it. http://kx5jt.net/AM/QSO.htm 73, KX5JT __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [AMRadio] Matching Multi-Elmac gear???
Gene: Not without mods. The PMR-6A had an internal VR tube [OB2] for the oscillator B+. The PMR-8 does not. The -8 gets its regulated oscillator B+ from the M-1070 or similar power supply. Also, the connectors are different; 8-pin octal vs cinch-jones. Hope this helps. Mitch, K9PNP > From: sound...@muchstuff.com > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:55:01 -0700 > Subject: [AMRadio] Matching Multi-Elmac gear??? > > Multi-Elmac questions > > Will a PSR-116 power supply work with a PMR-8? > Without mods? > > Gene, WB6SZS > __ > Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net > AMRadio mailing list > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ > List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with > the word unsubscribe in the message body. > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 __ Our Main Website: http://www.amfone.net AMRadio mailing list Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/amradio@mailman.qth.net/ List Rules (must read!): http://w5ami.net/amradiofaq.html List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Post: AMRadio@mailman.qth.net To unsubscribe, send an email to amradio-requ...@mailman.qth.net with the word unsubscribe in the message body. This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
