[amsat-bb] Re: SatPS32 off screen window
Hi Jeff, if you have at least a part of the program window on the screen move it back with the mouse to the position you want. Then close the program from the menu "File", "Quit". That will save the last screen position. Closing the program with the "x" control will not. If the window is completely off the screen, change the two first entries in the text file "SatPos.SQF" in the SatPC32 DATA folder, for example set both values to 0. The window will then be positioned in the uppler left corner of the screen. The data folder is hidden by default. So, make all files and folders visible (Explorer- Tools - Folder Options - View). The path of the folder depends on the OS, under XP it is C:\Documents and Settings\Username \AppData\SatPC32, under Vista and Windows 7 it is C:\User\Username\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32. 73s, Erich, DK1TB - Original Message - From: "Jeff KB2M" To: "'Amsat BB'" Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:59 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPS32 off screen window Has anyone had a SatPC32 problem where the program opens in a window off screen. I'm stuck here and none of the standard window fixes to bring the window back onscreen I goggled up work. I need to know where SatPC32 stores it's startup window information, somehow it must of got clobbered. I'm running XP... ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Fast1
Interestingly, the last two attempts (two nights ago, and this evening) to
repeat this have failed. I briefly tried the other uplink frequency, 145.980,
tonight, without success either. I did hear 4 or 5 beacon packets from FAST1
(they're quite distinctive, with all the "G"s in them), so everything else
seems to be in order. Most of them decoded, but I had APRSISCE/32 configured
to not pass beacons from RF->IS, so they didn't get posted. I believe there
were also couple of other packets from the satellite as well but they didn't
decode at all.
So, either I had incredible luck earlier with the packets that did go through,
or we now have a lot of other folks trying to uplink, with the result that the
satellite isn't hearing anything that can be retransmitted. I am concerned
that this weekend's attack on the satellite will be totally ineffective,
because an overloaded is nearly equivalent to one that is totally empty.
Neither full nor empty will accomplish the command team's objective of
increasing the Transmit duty cycle, to drain the batteries.
Anybody else having any success recently?
Greg KO6TH
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 18:26:44 -0500
> From: ldeff...@homeside.to
> To: k...@earthlink.net
> CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fast1
>
> Steve (G6UIM) and Greg (KO6TH) have been discussing this on the APRSISCE
> Yahoo group (messages below). Greg confirmed Steve's comment that FAST1
> is uplinking on 145.825 and downlinking on 437.345. He managed to
> bounce a few packets through it as well as capture some telemetry (also
> shown below).
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> (Note: Times are Eastern US, UTC-0500)
>
> 2011-12-08 00:35:04
> FAST1>BEACON,qAR,KO6TH-13:F11G0211006311
> 022 019 020 022 024
> 2011-12-08 00:35:06 KO6TH-13>APWW08,FAST1*,qAR,KO6TH-13::KJ4ERJ :Hi Lynn...
> another try via FAST1{BM}
> 2011-12-08 00:38:20 KO6TH-13>APWW08,FAST1*,qAR,KO6TH-13::KJ4ERJ :good
> signal received on last tx. Yea!{BN}
> 2011-12-08 00:38:24 KO6TH-13>APWW08,FAST1*,qAR,KO6TH-13::KJ4ERJ :good
> signal received on last tx. Yea!{BN}
> 2011-12-08 00:38:40 KO6TH-13>APWW08,FAST1*,qAR,KO6TH-13::KJ4ERJ :good
> signal received on last tx. Yea!{BN}
> 2011-12-08 00:39:02 KO6TH-13>APWW08,FAST1*,qAR,KO6TH-13::KJ4ERJ :You still
> awake?
> 2011-12-08 00:39:04
> FAST1>BEACON,qAR,KO6TH-13:F11G0207105289
> 022 020 020 022 023
> 2011-12-08 00:42:04
> FAST1>BEACON,qAR,KO6TH-13:F11G0264006286
> 022 020 020 022 022
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Daniels
> mailto:st...@daniels270.eclipse.co.uk>>
> wrote:
>
> FAST1 is up on 145.825MHz and down on 437.345MHz according to their
> recent news release.
>
>
>
> Frequencies confirmed. I managed to bounce a few through FAST1 this
> evening with these frequencies (with doppler shift factored in by the
> computer).
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
> On 12/8/2011 10:08 AM, Tom Lubbers K8TL wrote:
> > Has anyone had any positive results?? I have beaconed with 1200 and 9600,
> > nothing.
> >
> > After the 0330Z pass did copy RS0ISS on the same frequency pair, boy was my
> > element set off!!
> >
> > Happy Holidays
> >
> > Tom K8TL
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[amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 off screen window
Here's what I do, it works for me for any off-screen windows: * Click on the taskbar to make sure your off-screen window is selected. * HIt Alt-Space to bring up the window minimize/maximize/close/move dialog. * Choose Move. * Hit any arrow key (important - this starts the move process). * You can now (left-click-and) drag the window back onto your main screen using your mouse. Hope it helps!!! 73 de Dave KB5WIA http://kb5wia.blogspot.com On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Jeff KB2M wrote: > Has anyone had a SatPC32 problem where the program opens in a window off > screen. I'm stuck here and none of the standard window fixes to bring the > window back onscreen I goggled up work. I need to know where SatPC32 stores > it's startup window information, somehow it must of got clobbered. I'm > running XP... ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FAST1
"the team has decided to open up FASTRAC-1 to the amateur radio community with the hope as more people use it to digipeat through the satellite, the battery levels will diminish and cause a hard reset of the microcontrollers on board." So the only reason we get to use it is to wear down the batteries in hopes of a hard reset. Then what they turn the digipeater back off? Well at least we get to have some fun, I heard it last pass and will try this next one if I can get the split in my radio in time. I dont suppose there will be a message board like the ISS? Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] MY MAIL BOX ON FAST 1
After the 0300 pass I'll leave my mailbox open (K8TL-1). If you can't sleep and the bird isn't QRL try to leave me a message. I'll leave things set on 1200B. 73 and good luck. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] fast1 1200
Dec 10 0122 connected to my self and disconnected several times, I also sent myself several packets. Only other thing heard was FAST1 beacon. This was 1200b. Will try 9600b next orbit. (C K8TL V FAST1) BEACONED cq (cq V FAST1) AND SENT UNPROTO CQ' COPIED MOST OF THEM COMMING BACK DOWN. Tom K8TL ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: looking for info on using a telescope tripod for automatic tracking
I'm developing an app to read SatPC32 DDE output and in turn drive an iOptron MiniTower Az/El telescope mount. Most of it works - just fiddling with the algorithm to avoid cable wrap as the mount has no turn limit. Mount info here: http://www.ioptron.com/index.cfm?select=productdetails&phid=ceb1319d-f409-4392-97f7-00ca95974f1a Contact me direct for more info. Dave - N7LKL On 12/8/2011 2:18 AM, k4...@comcast.net wrote: > > > Hi everyone. I found a Meade telescope trpod with the az/el gears on it and > a worm drive for each. There are no motors on it but I think that could be > fixed with a call to Meade parts. What I'm looking for is a solution to > drive the motors with instruction from one of the sat tracking programs out > there. Any help would be great. > > > > The tripod is a medium duty model and has a top mount that is perfect for an > Arrow yagi set. > > > > I made a short video of it. Tell me what you think and what can be done. > > > > Thanks! > > Ronny > > K4RJJ > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_BcS6HjxTU > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SatPS32 off screen window
>Has anyone had a SatPC32 problem where the program opens in a window off >screen. I'm stuck here and none of the standard window fixes to bring the >window back onscreen I goggled up work. I need to know where SatPC32 stores >it's startup window information, somehow it must of got clobbered. I'm >running XP... I have the same question ;) Andy ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:33 AM, wrote: > Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Nope. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] W5PFG/P to Grid EM31, 10 Nov 2011
I will be traveling to EM31 tomorrow afternoon, 10 November. If you need grid EM31 confirmed, please email me. There are a couple of SO-50 passes I will be able to work but only if requested. 73 Clayton ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SatPS32 off screen window
Has anyone had a SatPC32 problem where the program opens in a window off screen. I'm stuck here and none of the standard window fixes to bring the window back onscreen I goggled up work. I need to know where SatPC32 stores it's startup window information, somehow it must of got clobbered. I'm running XP... ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FAST-1/Digi-ON 1k2/9k6
So, with that confirmation coupled with earlier 1200 baud confirmations
on 145.825, it would seem that the 1200/9600 baud uplink frequencies
published on the original FASTRAC page are backwards.
http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/overview.php
Does anyone have a contact on the FASTRAC team to get the bad
information corrected? Or have the frequencies only been switched with
the opening of the digipeater?
http://www.uk.amsat.org/2011/12/01/fastrac-1-digipeater-activated/
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 12/9/2011 5:13 PM, Mineo Wakita wrote:
I confirmed today that Up 145.980MHz / Down 437.345MHz, 9600bps
20:59-21:12JST, 9 Dec 2011, Ele 59 N-E-ES
Up 145.980MHz / Down 437.345MHz, 9600bps
-
[UISS Auto-Log date - Mode: All Packets - 2011/12/09]
-
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:02:53]
:SAT :Hello via FAST1
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:02:58]
:SAT :Hello via FAST1
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:03:18]
=3523.05N/13936.61E- Yokohama Japan via FAST1 {UISS52}
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:06:15]
:SAT :Hello via FAST1 9k6
--
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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[amsat-bb] Re: Euroluna Cubesat on TV
On 2011-12-09 22:31, Trevor . wrote: See http://www.uk.amsat.org/2011/12/09/danish-euroluna-project-on-tv/ 73 Trevor M5AKA You should probably have one of your Danish friends next to you to get full benefit of the video. But it is interesting quand même. Bent, OZ6BL ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega
Thanks Stefan, I can only agree with what you say.. I hope to meet you one day in person... best wishes Peter, DB2OS On 09.12.2011 22:34, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Fair enough, > > No permanent damage done. I certainly respect the decisions made by > AMSAT-DL to focus on P3E. It's a great satellite! Let's have us go > back to building and launching satellites, the big ones and the small > ones. I believe we are all on the same page and the more diverse the > satellites are the better for all of us. > > Good luck with P3E! > > Stefan > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Peter Guelzow wrote: >> Hi Stefan and all, >> >> First of all, English is not my mother language. Please apologize.. >> >> Also I'm not a politician who thinks twice about what he is saying, in >> particular if you have to give a talk under time pressure and not in you >> native language. This is also "life".. I have to live with it.. >> >> So it might be that I could be wrongly interpreted, in particular if someone >> already has a strong bias in another direction.. there is always room for >> false interpretations based on your own attitude. >> >> In my translation book "to denounce so" (denunciate the CubeSat community) >> is a very crude word, in particular if used in an false accusation which >> was made. >> >> People have been killed because of this in the past!! >> >> So I felt it appropriate to reply in the way I did.. >> >> If I misinterpreted your words and you did not mean it that way, I can only >> apologize for saying you were “crude” and “blinded by rage” in your >> interpretation of what I have said (or not said)... >> >> Unfortunately you ignored the rest of my Statements. >> >> On 09.12.2011 05:56, Stefan Wagener wrote: >> >> Now then, please help me and others understand your comments you made at >> AMSAT-UK (listed below): "The amateur community in general is not interested >> in Cubesats, "I know some of you might not like to hear that "It might sound >> like a high nose attitude, but it is life "Those that have done P3 >> satellites have no interest in Cubesats If those statements, which by the >> way come directly from the AMSAT-UK video of your presentation >> >> >> I do not read anywhere that I or AMSAT-DL is denouncing the CubeSats (or the >> CubeSat community) ?? >> >> I can not speak for the whole amateur community in general, but only for the >> AMSAT-DL membership and a lot of them had the luck to experiences satellites >> like P3-B (AO-10), P3-C (AO-13) and P3-D AO-40). >> >> What is so wrong with our membership favoring another P3-E over a CubeSat? >> >> Who was it who called those P3-E supporters being from or living in the past >> century and of high nosed attitude? >> >> Our membership is favor in finishing P3-E and getting it launched. Thus we >> are concentrating in getting enough funding to finish and launch it. We >> even have to go “out of the ordinary” ways to achieve this goal and beyond. >> This is not easy, we never told it would be easy.. I agree, we could have >> chosen an simpler way. >> >> One of the good things of Amateur Radio is it's so-called Ham Spirit and the >> many facets our hobby has. >> >> So why not let one group doing THIS and the other doing THAT !?!? >> >> If someone within the AMSAT-DL community comes up with a good idea, if he >> thinks can raise money for it and if he is willing to actively work on it, >> why should I or the AMSAT-DL membership refuse him? >> >> Well, I suggest to read my previous mail without the mentioned words, so >> that I don't have to repeat it again and again.. >> >> Sorry for the rest of you folks... "Ich habe fertig..." >> I hope to have some better news soon :-) >> >> 73s Peter DB2OS >> ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
No more so than should we have to have permission to transmit on a satellite. That being said, I have noticed over the years that a lot of childish stuff has been said on the AMSAT-BB which may have impacted the participation of volunteers, contribution of donations or professional offers of assistance (launch opportunities). You really never know who is reading, and you may scare off potential membership or contribution. Please think before hitting send. Unlike the PTT button, you have still a chance NOT to "say whats on your mind". Message: 15 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 4:33:44 -0500 From: To:"amsat-bb@amsat.org" Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Message-ID:<20111209093344.KKIX1.12900.root@hrndva-web05-z02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FAST-1/Digi-ON 1k2/9k6
I confirmed today that Up 145.980MHz / Down 437.345MHz, 9600bps
20:59-21:12JST, 9 Dec 2011, Ele 59 N-E-ES
Up 145.980MHz / Down 437.345MHz, 9600bps
-
[UISS Auto-Log date - Mode: All Packets - 2011/12/09]
-
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:02:53]
:SAT :Hello via FAST1
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:02:58]
:SAT :Hello via FAST1
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:03:18]
=3523.05N/13936.61E- Yokohama Japan via FAST1 {UISS52}
Fm JE9PEL To APRS Via FAST1* [21:06:15]
:SAT :Hello via FAST1 9k6
--
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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[amsat-bb] VEGA cubesats
Hi All, I understand that here is still some uncertainty as to how many and which cubesats will actually be taken into space on the Vega Maiden Flight. Not all of the original 9 selected satellites have been fully completed in time for the required pre-launch processes. I expect we will see more precise information issued by ESA within the next few weeks. 73 Graham G3VZV -Original Message- From: Mineo Wakita Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:17 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Robusta_and_Baumanets http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/esa9cubf.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega
Fair enough, No permanent damage done. I certainly respect the decisions made by AMSAT-DL to focus on P3E. It's a great satellite! Let's have us go back to building and launching satellites, the big ones and the small ones. I believe we are all on the same page and the more diverse the satellites are the better for all of us. Good luck with P3E! Stefan On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Peter Guelzow wrote: > Hi Stefan and all, > > First of all, English is not my mother language. Please apologize.. > > Also I'm not a politician who thinks twice about what he is saying, in > particular if you have to give a talk under time pressure and not in you > native language. This is also "life".. I have to live with it.. > > So it might be that I could be wrongly interpreted, in particular if someone > already has a strong bias in another direction.. there is always room for > false interpretations based on your own attitude. > > In my translation book "to denounce so" (denunciate the CubeSat community) > is a very crude word, in particular if used in an false accusation which > was made. > > People have been killed because of this in the past!! > > So I felt it appropriate to reply in the way I did.. > > If I misinterpreted your words and you did not mean it that way, I can only > apologize for saying you were “crude” and “blinded by rage” in your > interpretation of what I have said (or not said)... > > Unfortunately you ignored the rest of my Statements. > > On 09.12.2011 05:56, Stefan Wagener wrote: > > Now then, please help me and others understand your comments you made at > AMSAT-UK (listed below): "The amateur community in general is not interested > in Cubesats, "I know some of you might not like to hear that "It might sound > like a high nose attitude, but it is life "Those that have done P3 > satellites have no interest in Cubesats If those statements, which by the > way come directly from the AMSAT-UK video of your presentation > > > I do not read anywhere that I or AMSAT-DL is denouncing the CubeSats (or the > CubeSat community) ?? > > I can not speak for the whole amateur community in general, but only for the > AMSAT-DL membership and a lot of them had the luck to experiences satellites > like P3-B (AO-10), P3-C (AO-13) and P3-D AO-40). > > What is so wrong with our membership favoring another P3-E over a CubeSat? > > Who was it who called those P3-E supporters being from or living in the past > century and of high nosed attitude? > > Our membership is favor in finishing P3-E and getting it launched. Thus we > are concentrating in getting enough funding to finish and launch it. We > even have to go “out of the ordinary” ways to achieve this goal and beyond. > This is not easy, we never told it would be easy.. I agree, we could have > chosen an simpler way. > > One of the good things of Amateur Radio is it's so-called Ham Spirit and the > many facets our hobby has. > > So why not let one group doing THIS and the other doing THAT !?!? > > If someone within the AMSAT-DL community comes up with a good idea, if he > thinks can raise money for it and if he is willing to actively work on it, > why should I or the AMSAT-DL membership refuse him? > > Well, I suggest to read my previous mail without the mentioned words, so > that I don't have to repeat it again and again.. > > Sorry for the rest of you folks... "Ich habe fertig..." > I hope to have some better news soon :-) > > 73s Peter DB2OS > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Euroluna Cubesat on TV
See http://www.uk.amsat.org/2011/12/09/danish-euroluna-project-on-tv/ 73 Trevor M5AKA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FW: Re: moderated list
-Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:morse...@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:04 PM To: 'Bruce' Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: moderated list I get so much info here that it would cut off avenues for information that we may or may NOT hear about. Moderated has its limitations that give an indication that deaf ears to certain areas do not have a point. (Delete buttons work the same on ALL computers!) I believe that the whole idea to anyone's doubts is that we seem to have hit a low point in satellite construction and deployment because of the economic times, getting rougher in the near future. As to those that ask "where to donate?" it is your choice to support the kinds of satellites that you want to have in orbit. I think that the amount of posts equals the enthusiasm in the satellite community. Questions are a good source of discussion. We Google for information that sometimes isn't there. Answers should come from our AMSAT groups but their hands are tied with ITAR and political issues internal to the groups. If you recall, VOLUNTEERS are those that we rely on from day to day operations. Step up to the plate and use your talents where they will add to efforts of the few. Then, find out what time you have left to write about the information you need to disburse to fellow AMSAT members. 73, Dee, NB2F -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: moderated list Having been a member of the list since the early 90's, I have seen my share of the same name calling, finger pointing etc. When AO-40 ceased operations, there was finger pointing as to who was responsible for what and who did what. This went on for weeks and weeks. There have been many more instances of this. We have always had problems with let's say one person being negative and starting a flame thread going. What makes this list unique is that it is not moderated and everyone can voice their opinion. How would you feel if you posted a message to the list and you used a word in it that the moderator felt was not appropriate for the list and your message was bounced? It puts a tremendous amount of work and responsibility on the moderator. He cannot do it alone so you will have multiple moderators. Now, you have several people all of which will be interpreting the rules a different way. We see this in the court room on a daily basis. One guy robs a bank and gets 5 years another does it and gets 2. One is caught DWI and gets probation another gets 2 years. This is how our messages will be interpreted and this is probably worse than us being able to filter what we want when we want. When a thread does not meet my standards, I filter the thread to the junk bin and if there is someone that is continuously wreaking havoc, I filter them out. I have total control of what I read and see. And, as some have done over the years including board members, unsubscribe. These are all choices that are available to you and none of them needs or requires a list moderator. 73...bruce From: "normn3...@stny.rr.com" To: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" Sent: Fri, December 9, 2011 3:33:44 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega
Hi Stefan and all, First of all, English is not my mother language. Please apologize.. Also I'm not a politician who thinks twice about what he is saying, in particular if you have to give a talk under time pressure and not in you native language. This is also "life".. I have to live with it.. So it might be that I could be wrongly interpreted, in particular if someone already has a strong bias in another direction.. there is always room for false interpretations based on your own attitude. In my translation book "to denounce so" (denunciate the CubeSat community) is a very crude word, in particular if used in an false accusation which was made. People have been killed because of this in the past!! So I felt it appropriate to reply in the way I did.. If I misinterpreted your words and you did not mean it that way, I can only apologize for saying you were "crude" and "blinded by rage" in your interpretation of what I have said (or not said)... Unfortunately you ignored the rest of my Statements. On 09.12.2011 05:56, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Now then, please help me and others understand your comments you made > at AMSAT-UK (listed below): "The amateur community in general is not > interested in Cubesats, "I know some of you might not like to hear > that "It might sound like a high nose attitude, but it is life "Those > that have done P3 satellites have no interest in Cubesats If those > statements, which by the way come directly from the AMSAT-UK video of > your presentation > I do not read anywhere that I or AMSAT-DL is denouncing the CubeSats (or the CubeSat community) ?? I can not speak for the whole amateur community in general, but only for the AMSAT-DL membership and a lot of them had the luck to experiences satellites like P3-B (AO-10), P3-C (AO-13) and P3-D AO-40). What is so wrong with our membership favoring another P3-E over a CubeSat? Who was it who called those P3-E supporters being from or living in the past century and of high nosed attitude? Our membership is favor in finishing P3-E and getting it launched. Thus we are concentrating in getting enough funding to finish and launch it. We even have to go "out of the ordinary" ways to achieve this goal and beyond. This is not easy, we never told it would be easy.. I agree, we could have chosen an simpler way. One of the good things of Amateur Radio is it's so-called Ham Spirit and the many facets our hobby has. So why not let one group doing THIS and the other doing THAT !?!? If someone within the AMSAT-DL community comes up with a good idea, if he thinks can raise money for it and if he is willing to actively work on it, why should I or the AMSAT-DL membership refuse him? Well, I suggest to read my previous mail without the mentioned words, so that I don't have to repeat it again and again.. Sorry for the rest of you folks... "Ich habe fertig..." I hope to have some better news soon :-) 73s Peter DB2OS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Opportunity to Test Cubesat Projects on High Altitude Balloons
This appeared on the CubeSat mailing list http://lists.cubesat.org/mailman/listinfo The NASA Flight Opportunities Program is offering hosted flights aboard high altitude balloon platforms to test new space technology in a relevant, space-like environment. If you are developing an innovative Cubesat system that could benefit from a demonstration at 30 km (98,000 ft) altitude, this may be an opportunity to receive a NASA-hosted balloon-borne test flight. For more information, visit: https://flightopportunities.nasa.gov/ The Announcement of Flight Opportunities solicitation is available here: http://nspires.nasaprs.com/external/solicitations/summary.do?method=init&solId=%7B0A6C5D60-20F3-E7FE-D4A3-710AE8AA43B6%7D&path=open The proposal deadline is next week on December 16, 2011. Godspeed, Eric Eric Byers Project Management Near Space Corporation ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] QRZ.com Gridmapper Working Again
I'm pleased to report that with the new QRZ.com format, the Gridmapper has been fixed. Gridmapper allows you to see the gridsquare of the lookup station on a Google map. A six character square is outlined. It makes it easy to see how far a particular station is from another grid that you might need. To use gridmapper click on Detail and then scroll to the bottom of the map on the right and click on the Gridmapper link. QRZ.com is a great resource for ham radio operators. We are very fortunate to have it. If you don't have your email address on qrz.com, please consider listing it. It makes it much easier for someone to contact you if there is something going on that you might not be aware of with respect to your operations. 73, John K8YSE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SpaceX WF9XGI Part 5 application
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=49678&RequestTimeout=1000 Jan WB6VRN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Unofficial forum - amsat.forumer.com
I started this last month seeing if it got any traction via Google+. Since it has not I will advertise it here. I personally prefer forums to email lists but to each his own. Please join in if you are interested. Sign up at amsat.forumer.com. Play nice in the sandbox. /Quote -- Forwarded message -- From: To: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 4:33:44 -0500 Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? /Unquote Rich Gillin - *AL4S *907.884.1404 skype/ooVoo: rich.gillin msn: richgil...@hotmail.com G+: +AL4S ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
> Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Not really... it only hides the truth. Unfortunately it reveals what and who we have to work around. In any voluntary endeavor such as ham radio, those that can contribute something positive do (not just snide comments) or are quiet and get out of the way so that others with the time, energy, or skills, or position can actually make progress in some positive direction can move forward despite all of these monkeys hanging on their backs and bitting at their ankles. Nothing beneficial EVER comes from BS, Opinions, snide remarks, or complaining against what OTHERS are doing. They are the ones doing something, these BS arm-chair complainers just get in the way. Email is a necessary evil so that those that are moving forward can communicate and spread the word. Bob, WB4APR ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 04:33:44 -0500 > From: normn3...@stny.rr.com > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list > > Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Self moderation should be good, like not posting other peoples "personal" emails, politics, religion, things of that nature that we also try to keep off the air should be also kept off here. Anyone wants to talk about it please feel free to send me a "personal" email and I am sure we can exchange our opinions. Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Next SpaceX Flight February 7, 2012
RELEASE: 11-413 NASA ANNOUNCES LAUNCH DATE AND MILESTONES FOR SPACEX FLIGHT WASHINGTON -- NASA has announced the launch target for Space Exploration Technologies' (SpaceX) second Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) demonstration flight will be Feb. 7, 2012. Pending completion of final safety reviews, testing and verification, NASA also has agreed to allow SpaceX to send its Dragon spacecraft to rendezvous with the International Space Station (ISS) in a single flight. "SpaceX has made incredible progress over the last several months preparing Dragon for its mission to the space station," said William Gerstenmaier, NASA's associate administrator for the Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate. "We look forward to a successful mission, which will open up a new era in commercial cargo delivery for this international orbiting laboratory." Gerstenmaier said, "There is still a significant amount of critical work to be completed before launch, but the teams have a sound plan to complete it and are prepared for unexpected challenges. As with all launches, we will adjust the launch date as needed to gain sufficient understanding of test and analysis results to ensure safety and mission success." During the flight, Dragon will conduct a series of check-out procedures that will test and prove its systems in advance of the rendezvous with the station. The primary objectives for the flight include a fly-by of the space station at a distance of approximately two miles to validate the operation of sensors and flight systems necessary for a safe rendezvous and approach. The spacecraft also will demonstrate the capability to abort the rendezvous, if required. Dragon will perform the final approach to the ISS while the station crew grapples the vehicle with the station's robotic arm. The capsule will be berthed to the Earth-facing side of the Harmony node. At the end of the mission, the crew will reverse the process, detaching Dragon from the station for its return to Earth and splashdown in the Pacific off the coast of California. If the rendezvous and attachment to the station are not successful, SpaceX will complete a third demonstration flight in order to achieve these objectives as originally planned. "SpaceX is on the forefront of demonstrating how a partnership between the government and private industry can lead to new capabilities and provide a large return on investment," said Alan Lindenmoyer, program manager for COTS at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. "SpaceX is excited to be the first commercial company in history to berth with the International Space Station. This mission will mark a historic milestone in the future of spaceflight," said SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell. "We appreciate NASA's continued support and their partnership in this process." Begun in 2006, NASA's COTS program is investing financial and technical resources to stimulate efforts within the private sector to develop and demonstrate safe, reliable and cost-effective space transportation capabilities. In a multiphase strategy, the program is spurring the innovation and development of new spacecraft and launch vehicles from commercial industry, creating a new system of delivering cargo to low-Earth orbit and the International Space Station. Through Space Act Agreements, SpaceX will receive up to $396 million and Orbital Sciences Corporation, NASA's other COTS partner, will receive up to $288 million for the successful completion of all milestones in the agreements. To date, SpaceX has received $376 million for completing 36 out of 40 milestones and Orbital has received $261.5 million for completing 23 out of 29 milestones. For more information on COTS, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/cots For more information on the International Space Station, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/station For more information on SpaceX or the Dragon spacecraft, visit: http://www.spacex.com -end- Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
I like the list the way it is. When someone starts a negative thread they usually end up making an ass out of themselves, and then go away. In these lean times this un moderated list is a good test of sat op character :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: moderated list Having been a member of the list since the early 90's, I have seen my share of the same name calling, finger pointing etc. When AO-40 ceased operations, there was finger pointing as to who was responsible for what and who did what. This went on for weeks and weeks. There have been many more instances of this. We have always had problems with let's say one person being negative and starting a flame thread going. What makes this list unique is that it is not moderated and everyone can voice their opinion. How would you feel if you posted a message to the list and you used a word in it that the moderator felt was not appropriate for the list and your message was bounced? It puts a tremendous amount of work and responsibility on the moderator. He cannot do it alone so you will have multiple moderators. Now, you have several people all of which will be interpreting the rules a different way. We see this in the court room on a daily basis. One guy robs a bank and gets 5 years another does it and gets 2. One is caught DWI and gets probation another gets 2 years. This is how our messages will be interpreted and this is probably worse than us being able to filter what we want when we want. When a thread does not meet my standards, I filter the thread to the junk bin and if there is someone that is continuously wreaking havoc, I filter them out. I have total control of what I read and see. And, as some have done over the years including board members, unsubscribe. These are all choices that are available to you and none of them needs or requires a list moderator. 73...bruce From: "normn3...@stny.rr.com" To: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" Sent: Fri, December 9, 2011 3:33:44 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] The cubesat Debate
Hi Gents, A couple of years ago I was privilaged to work with university students on a cubesat project. They were mostly space science and engineering students of very high calibre indeed. It was a pure delight to be in the company of such focussed and inteligent youngsters. They had no interest in grid squares and DX type ham radio, but they did want to know how to get their command signals up to the space craft and how to get their data down. Whatever your views about cubesats, if you get an opportunity to work with a cubesat group go for it. Its a blast. 73 John G7HIA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega
How about as much afford on a replacement for AO-40 or it's type. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FAST-1/Digi-ON 1k2/9k6
Negative. The split 9600/1200 frequencies were published on FASTRAC's original page at http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/overview.php However, the announcement of the digipeater availability at http://www.uk.amsat.org/2011/12/01/fastrac-1-digipeater-activated/ supersedes this and the new 1200baud frequency has been observed to work as advertised on the new link which says: Frequency Information for FASTRAC-1 - FASTRAC-1 “Sara Lily” Downlink Frequency: 437.345 MHz - FASTRAC-1 “Sara Lily” Uplink Frequency (1200 or 9600 baud): 145.825 MHz - FASTRAC-1 “Sara Lily” Satellite Call Sign: FAST1 Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 12/9/2011 8:43 AM, Mineo Wakita wrote: Now, Up 145.825MHz/Down 437.345MHz, 1200bps Up 145.980MHz/Down 437.345MHz, 9600bps (Info. by JH1BCL) http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fastdigi.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Amateur Satellite Service
Hi all, If you would like to learn more about this subject, go to http://www.iaru.org/satellite/sat-freq-coord.html 73 Ray W2RS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Robusta_and_Baumanets
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/esa9cubf.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Robusta and Baumanets‐2
There is some information on Robusta 145.950/437.325 MHz (VEGA Jan) and Baumanets‐2 (Soyuz Q1) in these slides (in French) http://www.ies.univ-montp2.fr/robusta/satellite/IMG/pdf/PR_GN_2011.06.20_Conf_Le_Bourgetv2.pdf http://www.ies.univ-montp2.fr/robusta/satellite/?lang=en 73 Trevor M5AKA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
Having been a member of the list since the early 90's, I have seen my share of the same name calling, finger pointing etc. When AO-40 ceased operations, there was finger pointing as to who was responsible for what and who did what. This went on for weeks and weeks. There have been many more instances of this. We have always had problems with let's say one person being negative and starting a flame thread going. What makes this list unique is that it is not moderated and everyone can voice their opinion. How would you feel if you posted a message to the list and you used a word in it that the moderator felt was not appropriate for the list and your message was bounced? It puts a tremendous amount of work and responsibility on the moderator. He cannot do it alone so you will have multiple moderators. Now, you have several people all of which will be interpreting the rules a different way. We see this in the court room on a daily basis. One guy robs a bank and gets 5 years another does it and gets 2. One is caught DWI and gets probation another gets 2 years. This is how our messages will be interpreted and this is probably worse than us being able to filter what we want when we want. When a thread does not meet my standards, I filter the thread to the junk bin and if there is someone that is continuously wreaking havoc, I filter them out. I have total control of what I read and see. And, as some have done over the years including board members, unsubscribe. These are all choices that are available to you and none of them needs or requires a list moderator. 73...bruce From: "normn3...@stny.rr.com" To: "amsat-bb@amsat.org" Sent: Fri, December 9, 2011 3:33:44 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega
Whatever the politics or attitudes involved, I think it is possible to view the situation more optimistically. We all know that in today's climate a HEO flight will entail either a huge donation campaign or a free ride. If both AMSAT-NA and AMSAT-DL were chasing these funds, we would lose the opportunities that FOX is offering in Cubesat design, and we'd certainly never raise the money necessary for HEO. As it is, I think -DL is doing a great job positioning themselves within the Euro context, but obviously there are difficult economic headwinds for them to overcome. I suppose we can all agree that the SDX on ARISSAT and about to be flown on the FOXES will be an important technology whatever the orbit of a future amateur communication satellite. In many ways, the advantages of SDX are even more profound in HEO; indeed, if I remember correctly, it was first conceived for Eagle, a HEO bird. Thus if ITAR relaxes somewhat, AMSAT-NA's know-how in SDX can assist a future HEO project in countries like India, where a future HEO launch subsidized by the government is still possible. (And if it doesn't, AMSAT-NA can still partner with cubesat projects within the US, a sizable number.) I suspect the misunderstanding below comes from two meanings of the word 'cubesat', a confusion that I've noticed several times in the last couple of weeks. Most accurately defined, cubesat is a physical format and cheap launch system. However, because until now most satellites in the cubesat format have not had a communications component, we amateurs have tended to consider them 'telemetry and control' satellites, omitting the communications component which we all enjoy. If, with reference to this latter definition, you were to say 'most amateurs aren't interested in cubesats', you'd probably be right. (Though I'm among those who find them fascinating.) However, the goal of Fox-and-Friends (sorry, I've been avoiding making that joke for a while now) is to provide Echo-quality communications. If you say 'most amateurs aren't interested in cubesats' with reference to those capabilities, I think you'd be quite wrong: who would stipulate that the satellite must be big, heavy and expensive to launch in order to have fun communicating with a neighboring country through it? I hope nobody thinks I've misrepresented their ideas. I just think there is far more that unites us than divides, especially with the amazing opportunities that are on the way. 73, VE9QRP Bruce On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Thanks for responding. I am amazed by your reaction to a simple post. > Calling it "crude, false, blinded by rage" is quite a statement. But > hey, you have every right to your opinion! > > Now then, please help me and others understand your comments you made > at AMSAT-UK (listed below): > > "The amateur community in general is not interested in Cubesats, > "I know some of you might not like to hear that > "It might sound like a high nose attitude, but it is life > "Those that have done P3 satellites have no interest in Cubesats > > If those statements, which by the way come directly from the AMSAT-UK > video of your presentation (available online) are made by the > president of AMSAT-DL at an international meeting, I certainly do not > call this an endorsement but rather a denouncement of AMSAT-DL's > interest in cubesats. > > If you call this "crude, false and blinded by rage"... I am not sure > what your talking about and it certainly does not help or aid in the > discussion. > > The simple basic fact is that AMSAT-DL under your leadership is not > building, designing or planning any CubeSat projects (as far as I > know). Now, please prove me wrong. I would love to support > (financially) an AMSAT-DL Cubesat mission. > > > Stefan VE4NSA (DG1GWS) > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Peter Guelzow wrote: >> On 08.12.2011 16:17, Stefan Wagener wrote: >>> very simple, politics. >>> >>> AMSAT-DL's leadership has openly >>> denouced Cubesats. So two of the biggest AMSATs either can't or don't >>> want to. Talk about a pathetic situation for our community. >>> >>> Stefan VE4NSA >>> >> >> I don't know what kind of problem you have and why you make such crude >> and false presences. >> >> What is so wrong when we are saying that we (the AMSAT-DL members and >> BOD) want to build and fly another "AMSAT P3-E" rather than a CubeSat? >> >> Should we scrap P3-E for the sake of another CubeSat?? >> >> Neither does the AMSAT-DL BOD nor does our membership condemn or >> disapprove CubeSats. >> >> In the past years we had CubeSat team from German Universities coming to >> our Symposium. >> We have even given advice to some of them or help *if wanted*. We also >> attended a critical design review of SwissCube, etc.. >> I was personally at the CubeSat laboratory of the University of Tokyo a >> couple of years ago to see some of their first CubeSats and discuss some >> ideas with the Students and their Professor.
[amsat-bb] Re: I STILL have a question!
Reading between the lines of the President's reports from AMSAT-NA, there are some other ways that we in -NA can 'donate', which might, in the long run, be as effective as cash donations. We are constantly making the case that our participation in ARISSAT, etc. has educational outcomes. But we do not make it very easy for the average teacher to use these resources in the classroom; and evidently our partners would very much like to see evidence of real use. My interpretation of these reports is that we need two things. First, more satellite-savvy hams getting in the classroom. Second, a suite of lesson plans based around ARISSAT or FOX or both. Obviously, we can collaborate with UK (my guess is that ITAR doesn't cover a basic lesson on Doppler shift, but I'll check with my lawyers :-) Who teaches for a living here, esp. at the high school level? Who likes to visit classrooms? What resources already exist? Do you have some ppts lying around that could be integrated into a larger suite? Let's start collaborating! 73, Bruce VE9QRP On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:02 AM, wrote: > Hi Frank. > > The next AMSAT satellite due for launch is likely to be Funcube from > AMSAT-UK. It will be possible to donate to this project from later this month > via the AMSAT-UK web site. > > UKube also carries a linear transponder, It's not an 'AMSAT' project, but > the boards have been provided by AMSAT-UK. Fortunately -and we are REALLY > lucky here- that project is already fully funded by the UK Space agency > > In the meantime, you can use Paypal to donate to Fox at _www.amsat.org_ > (http://www.amsat.org) . I believe Fox is still at the advanced design stage > but this will be a short process due to all the experience AMSAT-NA have > gained with ARISSat. > > Or you can take the optimists view and support the completion of the > hardware for P3E. Which if a launch can be identified will be spectacular for > everyone. (But please let it be able to run on solar power alone!!) > > Sorry if I've missed any other projects...but I'm sure they will speak up > > Thanks > > David > > > In a message dated 09/12/2011 10:19:33 GMT Standard Time, k4...@k4feg.com > writes: > > With all that has been said here since the "expected" death of AO-51 I > want to KNOW what I can do to help move towards whichever, next > satellite that can be got into space. > I don't care about the delivery vehicle , whether or not it is a cube, > sphere, pyramid or in the shape of a Volkswagen Beetle. > I am interested in a satellite that can be used by amateurs to > "communicate" I have my personal preferences as to what type of > satellite I would prefer but *_at this point I don't care what type of > satellite it is. > _* > _*I know how to adapt to what ever mode it operates on. > *_ > _*I just want to know WHAT TO SUPPORT AND HOW TO SUPPORT IT!*_ > all I have heard ,"stop the attacks, do this do that" > I still don't have a clear picture of what is the closest to being ready > and what we need to do to facilitate it's completion.I can't support it > if the "powers to be" won't tell us what is needed. > > Information is power and I don't have any information on what direction > we need to head. > > that's my opinion! > > *_Lead, follow or get out of the way!_* > Frank > K4FEG > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb -- http://ve9qrp.blogspot.com ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: DO-64 Successor Delfi-n3xt
Yes DNEPR launch in September is certainly good news. The IARU coodination page says the 145/435 frequencies are the same as DO-64 with the addition of 2401.500 MHz. http://www.amsatuk.me.uk/iaru/finished_detail.php?serialnum=138 The launch announcement said: On Monday 31st of October, TU Delft has signed a launch contract with Innovative Solutions in Space-ISIS BV for the launch of Delfi-n3Xt. Delfi-n3Xt is now planned for a launch in September 2012 with a the Russian Dnepr launch vehicle. This means that the countdown to launch for Delfi-n3Xt has started. The last two months of 2011 will be dedicated to making a fully functional engineering model of the satellite. In the first quarter of 2012, the hardware and software will be tuned an finalized. In the second quarter of 2012, system level tests will be performed. In the summer of 2012 the preparations for launch and early operations will commence. These are very exciting times for the team, partners and everybody who is and has been involved in the mission! http://www.delfispace.nl/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=3 73 Trevor M5AKA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] FAST-1/Digi-ON 1k2/9k6
Now, Up 145.825MHz/Down 437.345MHz, 1200bps Up 145.980MHz/Down 437.345MHz, 9600bps (Info. by JH1BCL) http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fastdigi.htm JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
YUp silence those that disagree...remember HITLER On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Jeffrey Koehler wrote: > Yup. > > This name calling and finger pointing is getting ridiculous. > > WB2SYK > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] DO-64 Successor Delfi-n3xt
The DO-64 successor will be launched in 260 days. have a look at: http://www.delfispace.nl/ "Communication Subsystem (COMMS) Currently, three radios are envisioned on Delfi-n3Xt: an improved version of the transceiver flown on Delfi-C3, the advanced transceiver payload and a S-band transmitter. The subsystem will continuously transmit housekeeping and payload data, operate the high-speed data link above Delft and act as a linear transponder service for radio amateurs. The transponder service is a return favour since the radio amateur community allows us to use their frequencies." 73 Jan PE0SAT -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
I think it's time for me to officially unsubscribe. It's unfortunate because there is so much information presented here, but the cycle of negativity is a bit much. --jeff N3QO On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Jeffrey Koehler wrote: > Yup. > > This name calling and finger pointing is getting ridiculous. > > WB2SYK > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > ___ > Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb > ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
Yup. This name calling and finger pointing is getting ridiculous. WB2SYK Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: I STILL have a question!
Hi Frank. The next AMSAT satellite due for launch is likely to be Funcube from AMSAT-UK. It will be possible to donate to this project from later this month via the AMSAT-UK web site. UKube also carries a linear transponder, It's not an 'AMSAT' project, but the boards have been provided by AMSAT-UK. Fortunately -and we are REALLY lucky here- that project is already fully funded by the UK Space agency In the meantime, you can use Paypal to donate to Fox at _www.amsat.org_ (http://www.amsat.org) . I believe Fox is still at the advanced design stage but this will be a short process due to all the experience AMSAT-NA have gained with ARISSat. Or you can take the optimists view and support the completion of the hardware for P3E. Which if a launch can be identified will be spectacular for everyone. (But please let it be able to run on solar power alone!!) Sorry if I've missed any other projects...but I'm sure they will speak up Thanks David In a message dated 09/12/2011 10:19:33 GMT Standard Time, k4...@k4feg.com writes: With all that has been said here since the "expected" death of AO-51 I want to KNOW what I can do to help move towards whichever, next satellite that can be got into space. I don't care about the delivery vehicle , whether or not it is a cube, sphere, pyramid or in the shape of a Volkswagen Beetle. I am interested in a satellite that can be used by amateurs to "communicate" I have my personal preferences as to what type of satellite I would prefer but *_at this point I don't care what type of satellite it is. _* _*I know how to adapt to what ever mode it operates on. *_ _*I just want to know WHAT TO SUPPORT AND HOW TO SUPPORT IT!*_ all I have heard ,"stop the attacks, do this do that" I still don't have a clear picture of what is the closest to being ready and what we need to do to facilitate it's completion.I can't support it if the "powers to be" won't tell us what is needed. Information is power and I don't have any information on what direction we need to head. that's my opinion! *_Lead, follow or get out of the way!_* Frank K4FEG ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] I STILL have a question!
With all that has been said here since the "expected" death of AO-51 I want to KNOW what I can do to help move towards whichever, next satellite that can be got into space. I don't care about the delivery vehicle , whether or not it is a cube, sphere, pyramid or in the shape of a Volkswagen Beetle. I am interested in a satellite that can be used by amateurs to "communicate" I have my personal preferences as to what type of satellite I would prefer but *_at this point I don't care what type of satellite it is. _* _*I know how to adapt to what ever mode it operates on. *_ _*I just want to know WHAT TO SUPPORT AND HOW TO SUPPORT IT!*_ all I have heard ,"stop the attacks, do this do that" I still don't have a clear picture of what is the closest to being ready and what we need to do to facilitate it's completion.I can't support it if the "powers to be" won't tell us what is needed. Information is power and I don't have any information on what direction we need to head. that's my opinion! *_Lead, follow or get out of the way!_* Frank K4FEG ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] moderated list
Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] cubsats
KO4MA writes In the long term view, inclusion and support of cubesats into our community will benefit all the AMSATs more than derision and ridicule has to this point. Several cubes have attempted or will attempt to support amateur two-way packages, i.e. DO-64, CO-65, PWsat, FunCube, UKube, Fox. Let's encourage that, and stop with the self-centered view of the service. Most curse the darkness Some light a candle Go Drew Thanks nick Office 337 593 8700 Cell 337 258 2527 Helping UL become a world Class Engineering and Educational School ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
