[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:34 AM, David Johnsond...@g4dpz.me.uk wrote:
 Hi Joanne,

 It has been a great weekend at the colloquium meeting old friends,
 making new ones and watching
 really interesting presentations. From a personal point of view, it has
 been a pleasure to prepare the
 programme of speakers for over 7 years but this was my last time and the
 committee is looking for
 someone to pick up the reigns.

 The FUNCube project announcement kept a closely guarded secret before
 the event and we've been
 very pleased with the feedback and educational outreach ideas we've had
 just this weekend. As with
 all AMSAT projects any offers of help would be very welcome.

Congratulations to all involved in making this announcement! I wonder
if we might discuss some educational outreach ideas here on the
amsat-bb.

I've often thought that a project like this could be used to 'seed'
radio clubs in local schools. My experience suggests that these could
be touted as 'Space Communicator Clubs', not specifically ham radio
clubs. They would concentrate, in the first instance, on the many
interesting things that can be done with reception, not transmission,
thus keeping the threshold for participation low enough that large
numbers of students would participate.

I think a cubesat project could really aid in making these 'Space
Communicator Clubs' more vital. First, if the idea is proposed on a
website in some sort of formal way, it gives the local satellite
operator an 'in' with the school administration. Principals and
vice-Principals will be more happy to support something like this if
they think that it is happening around the world. In fact, they might
feel a bit of an obligation to keep up with other schools. (The
problem I can see with their assistance is that we might need to pass
cables to the out-of-doors.) Second, a cubesat project could help by
offering a certificate of participation to all students involved in
the construction of a station that receives telemetry.

In any case, I'd like to request that any sort of ancillary
educational opportunities for FUNsat be presented not as for UK
students alone , but that it encourages educators and students from
all over the world. I think, in fact, the very distance to the UK from
New Brunswick, Canada would make recognition from an organization in
the UK all the more exciting to administrators and students here.

73, Bruce
VE9QRP

 It was good to see Drew and Peter this year and get an update of the
 AMSAT-NA  AMSAT-DL
 activities, respectively.

 73

 Dave

 The committee
 JoAnne Maenpaa wrote:
 Hello David, and everyone,


 AMSAT-UK has announced a new amateur satellite project - FUNcube
 ... received major initial funding from the Radio Communications
 Foundation (RCF)


 First, congratulations to AMSAT-UK on your exciting new project!

 This is an excellent example of the premise that AMSAT needs to create a
 mission that excites possible funding sources ... with a positive side
 effect that Amateur Radio gets to use a new linear transponder in orbit.

 Well done!
 --
 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
 k9...@amsat.org

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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-28 Thread john heath
Hi Bruce and the bb,

Re: Amsat-UK FUNcube

What a great name  Space Communicators Club

With potential worldwide participation by schools in the telemetry and 
physiscs experiments I hope that amsat-uk can come up with a receiver that 
can be mass produced and  achive an easily affordable unit for schools.

73 John G7HIA 

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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-28 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
I think it's already there - a SDR soft-rock receiver, pre-amp probably 
needed but cost ~$100 if you build yourself.

A few lines of code and you're in business.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

- Original Message - 
From: john heath g7...@btinternet.com

 With potential worldwide participation by schools in the telemetry and
 physiscs experiments I hope that amsat-uk can come up with a receiver that
 can be mass produced and  achive an easily affordable unit for schools.
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-28 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM, john heathg7...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Hi Bruce and the bb,

 Re: Amsat-UK FUNcube

 What a great name  Space Communicators Club

 With potential worldwide participation by schools in the telemetry and
 physiscs experiments I hope that amsat-uk can come up with a receiver that
 can be mass produced and  achive an easily affordable unit for schools.

 73 John G7HIA


That's a great idea, John. And, as Simon points out, the softrock
arena shows this to be quite achievable. Moreover, the one thing that
just about every school has in volume is old computers!

I think if AMSAT-UK came up with such a receiver design, the rest of
us should work together on a curriculum that builds soldering skills
and explains radio and orbital mechanics, or on localizing the
curricula that they produce. Of course, we would want this to be
win-win: ideally, a telemetry collection system like the one provided
with Delfi C3 would be part of the system.

I must have had the AMSAT award in my mind when I thought of 'Space
Communicators' Club' as the possible name for a club in a local
school, but the namespace collision was not intentional, of course.
What I mean to express is the idea that students would be aiming
towards receiving information from space.

73 Bruce,
VE9QRP

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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-28 Thread Bruce Paige
Although Space Communicators Club sounds like a great name, how confusing 
might this be with the AMSAT Communicators Club award? Maybe we (AMSAT) could 
offer the AMSAT Communicators Club award when the participating school makes 
their first contact with their satellite. 

Just thinking out loud. 

73...bruce





From: john heath g7...@btinternet.com
To: Bruce Robertson ve9...@gmail.com
Cc: amsat amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:51:55 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

Hi Bruce and the bb,

Re: Amsat-UK FUNcube

What a great name  Space Communicators Club

With potential worldwide participation by schools in the telemetry and 
physiscs experiments I hope that amsat-uk can come up with a receiver that 
can be mass produced and  achive an easily affordable unit for schools.

73 John G7HIA 

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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-27 Thread David Johnson
Hi Joanne,

It has been a great weekend at the colloquium meeting old friends,
making new ones and watching 
really interesting presentations. From a personal point of view, it has
been a pleasure to prepare the
programme of speakers for over 7 years but this was my last time and the
committee is looking for
someone to pick up the reigns.

The FUNCube project announcement kept a closely guarded secret before
the event and we've been
very pleased with the feedback and educational outreach ideas we've had
just this weekend. As with
all AMSAT projects any offers of help would be very welcome.

It was good to see Drew and Peter this year and get an update of the
AMSAT-NA  AMSAT-DL
activities, respectively.

73

Dave

The committee
JoAnne Maenpaa wrote:
 Hello David, and everyone,

   
 AMSAT-UK has announced a new amateur satellite project - FUNcube 
 ... received major initial funding from the Radio Communications
 Foundation (RCF)
 

 First, congratulations to AMSAT-UK on your exciting new project!

 This is an excellent example of the premise that AMSAT needs to create a
 mission that excites possible funding sources ... with a positive side
 effect that Amateur Radio gets to use a new linear transponder in orbit.

 Well done!
 --
 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
 k9...@amsat.org 



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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-25 Thread David - KG4ZLB
/**//*It is anticipated FUNcube will be launched into a Sun Synchronous 
Low Earth Orbit about 600-700km above the earth using one of the many 
launch opportunities that exist for Cubesat missions.*/

*_Many_* launch opportunities ???

-- 
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com





David Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 AMSAT-UK has announced a new amateur satellite project – FUNcube – that
 features a 435 to 145 MHz Linear Transponder for SSB/CW operation. The
 project has received major initial funding from the Radio Communications
 Foundation (RCF) and is expected be developed in collaboration with
 ISIS-Innovative Solutions in Space BV.

 FUNcube is an educational single cubesat project with the goal of
 enthusing and educating young people about radio, space, physics and
 electronics.

 It will support the educational Science, Technology, Engineering, Maths
 (STEM) initiatives and provide an additional resource for the GB4FUN
 Mobile Communications Centre.

 The target audience consists of primary and secondary school pupils and
 FUNcube will feature a 145 MHz telemetry beacon that will provide a
 strong signal for the pupils to receive.

 It is planned to develop a simple receiver board that can be connected
 to the USB port of a laptop to display telemetry in an interesting way.

 The satellite will contain a materials science experiment, from which
 the school students can receive telemetry data which they can compare to
 the results they obtained from similar reference experiments in the
 classroom.

 FUNcube is the first cubesat designed to benefit this group and is
 expected to be the first UK cubesat to reach space.

 More details can be found at:

 http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/696/68/

 73
 Dave, G4DPZ
 AMSAT-UK 1267
 AMSAT-NA LM-1260
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[amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite

2009-07-25 Thread John B. Stephensen
Yes, there are lots of launch opportunities for LEO satellites. They aren't 
free, but very inexpensive compared to a HEO satellite. You get a 800 km 
orbit (like AO-51) for a 10 x 10 x 10-30 cm payload. The standard size 
reduces overhead so you can afford to launch a very small satellite as one 
of a group of 6 or more for a little more than $10,000 per pound.

73,

John
KD6OZH

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From: David - KG4ZLB kg4...@googlemail.com
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 18:59 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FUNcube a UK Linear Transponder Satellite


/**//*It is anticipated FUNcube will be launched into a Sun Synchronous
Low Earth Orbit about 600-700km above the earth using one of the many
launch opportunities that exist for Cubesat missions.*/

*_Many_* launch opportunities ???

-- 
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com





David Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 AMSAT-UK has announced a new amateur satellite project – FUNcube – that
 features a 435 to 145 MHz Linear Transponder for SSB/CW operation. The
 project has received major initial funding from the Radio Communications
 Foundation (RCF) and is expected be developed in collaboration with
 ISIS-Innovative Solutions in Space BV.

 FUNcube is an educational single cubesat project with the goal of
 enthusing and educating young people about radio, space, physics and
 electronics.

 It will support the educational Science, Technology, Engineering, Maths
 (STEM) initiatives and provide an additional resource for the GB4FUN
 Mobile Communications Centre.

 The target audience consists of primary and secondary school pupils and
 FUNcube will feature a 145 MHz telemetry beacon that will provide a
 strong signal for the pupils to receive.

 It is planned to develop a simple receiver board that can be connected
 to the USB port of a laptop to display telemetry in an interesting way.

 The satellite will contain a materials science experiment, from which
 the school students can receive telemetry data which they can compare to
 the results they obtained from similar reference experiments in the
 classroom.

 FUNcube is the first cubesat designed to benefit this group and is
 expected to be the first UK cubesat to reach space.

 More details can be found at:

 http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/696/68/

 73
 Dave, G4DPZ
 AMSAT-UK 1267
 AMSAT-NA LM-1260
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-- 
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