[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-29 Thread Robert Bruninga
> sending %HIGH to the TM-D710 is just spelling each letter :o/

There is a list of codes somewhere.  To speak one of the pre-set
words, you just include the text %XX where XX is a two byte HEX
value of the word you want spoken.  I guess you could just try
all 256 codes and write down the words spoken?  Should be the
same voice chip as in the D700.

Bob
WB4APR

> And if it is like the original APRSdata.EXE, [the
> elevation of the satellite object is]... encoded 
> with a leading % sign so that the D700 radio with 
> a voice chip will actually SPEAK [the elevation]
> "HIGH" and "LOW" so you never even have to
> look at the radio.

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[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-29 Thread Kai Gunter Brandt
On 06/28/2010 10:27 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> And if it is like the original APRSdata.EXE, those are encoded
> with a leading % sign so that the D700 radio with a voice chip
> will actually SPEAK "HIGH" and "LOW" so you never even have to
> look at the radio.
>
>

Is there a list of those words for the TM-D700 ?

sending %HIGH to the TM-D710 is just spelling each letter :o/

Kai Gunter
LA3QMA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-28 Thread Robert Bruninga
>>> ...  This program will this notify the users
>>> of upcoming passes via APRS messaging. 

Better to use OBJECTS so that all of the following shows up on
the front panel of the radio:

Satellite Name
Direction, and Range
Uplink Freq (and doppler)
Downlink Freq and Doppler
Elevation (HIGH or LOW).
Direction of movement
 
> I would suggest you look at the digi_ned source code. 
> It works great and does everything you want.
> [that is, sending out all the Satellite Objects info
> on APRS shown above]
>
> There was a change on the last  update where he
> replace the display of azimuth/elevation to 
> HIGH(over 30 degrees) and LOW (Below 30 degrees).
> That change actually works very well when
> driving down the road.

And if it is like the original APRSdata.EXE, those are encoded
with a leading % sign so that the D700 radio with a voice chip
will actually SPEAK "HIGH" and "LOW" so you never even have to
look at the radio.

For example, you are just driving down the road, and your D700
(with voice chip)announces: "AO-51 435.300 -5 KHz 145.85 +1 KHz
HIGH"

And if you look at the radio, it displays all the other info
above.

This is just part of the local INFO that can be pushed to the
front panel of the APRS radios as a service to the mobile
operator.  I'm glad you are taking on this challenge, because,
no one uses the original APRSdata.EXE that did this, there are
very few DIGI-NED's on the air doing it, and so we need a
Windows version that each local area can run to serve their
users.

Bob, WB4APR

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[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-28 Thread Douglas Quagliana
Reid Crowe wrote:
> I'm trying to write my own pass prediction program for tracking FM 
> satellites.  
> 73, Reid N0RC
>   
Hi Reid,

   If you want something in C, try predict.If BASIC is more to your 
liking, then try G3RUH's plan13 program. 
Both come with source code.  Predict is GPL.  Plan13 comes with G3RUH's 
writeup, which includes an
excellent explanation of what the program does and how it does it.

predict is at
http://www.qsl.net/kd2bd/predict.html

plan13 is at
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/g3ruh/111.html

   Both will run on computers with minimal CPU resources. 

Douglas KA2UPW/5

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[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-28 Thread kim
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 10:26 -0700, B J wrote:
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Reid Crowe  wrote:
> 
> > From: Reid Crowe 
> > Subject: [amsat-bb]  Pass prediction algorithm
> > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Received: Monday, June 28, 2010, 8:59 AM
> > I'm trying to write my own pass
> > prediction program for tracking FM 
> > satellites.  This program will this notify the users
> > of upcoming passes 
> > via APRS messaging.  I would like to find an algorithm
> > that will predict 
> > AOS/LOS time and azimuth and the  maximum
> > elevation.  I'm also hoping 
> > this algorithm will not be too computationally intensive as
> > it may 
> > possibly be used for hundreds of different station
> > locations.
> > 
> > Can anyone help?
> 

I would suggest you look at the digi_ned source code. It works great and
does everything you want. There was a change on the last update where he
replace the display of azimuth/elevation to HIGH(over 30 degrees) and
LOW (Below 30 degrees). That change actually works very well when
driving down the road. But it was nice to see the actually numbers when
sitting still. The code before this last update did that. 

73
kim - ac7yy

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[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-28 Thread Stephen E. Belter
Reid,

My suggestion is that you start from "Predict", an open source satellite 
tracking and orbital prediction program:

http://www.qsl.net/kd2bd/predict.html

73, Steve N9IP
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> -Original Message-
> From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
> Behalf Of B J
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:26 PM
> To: Reid Crowe
> Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/28/10, Reid Crowe  wrote:
> 
> > From: Reid Crowe 
> > Subject: [amsat-bb]  Pass prediction algorithm
> > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> > Received: Monday, June 28, 2010, 8:59 AM
> > I'm trying to write my own pass
> > prediction program for tracking FM
> > satellites.  This program will this notify the users
> > of upcoming passes
> > via APRS messaging.  I would like to find an algorithm
> > that will predict
> > AOS/LOS time and azimuth and the  maximum
> > elevation.  I'm also hoping
> > this algorithm will not be too computationally intensive as
> > it may
> > possibly be used for hundreds of different station
> > locations.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> 
> I'd suggest looking at books on spacecraft mechanics.
> 
> One which may help is "Fundamentals of Astrodynamics" by Roger R. Bate,
> Donald D. Meuller, and Jerry E. White (published by Dover).  It's one of
> the better books on the subject, in my opinion, as I found it easier to
> read than many of the others I've seen.  One does need some familiarity
> with calculus and linear algebra in order to understand the theory,
> however, but it's not overwhelming.
> 
> Another one is "Modern Spacecraft Dynamics & Control" by Marshall H.
> Kaplan (published by John Wiley & Sons).  It's good, too, but I didn't
> find it as easy to go through as the other one.
> 
> 73s
> 
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
> 
> 
> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: Pass prediction algorithm

2010-06-28 Thread B J


--- On Mon, 6/28/10, Reid Crowe  wrote:

> From: Reid Crowe 
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Pass prediction algorithm
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Received: Monday, June 28, 2010, 8:59 AM
> I'm trying to write my own pass
> prediction program for tracking FM 
> satellites.  This program will this notify the users
> of upcoming passes 
> via APRS messaging.  I would like to find an algorithm
> that will predict 
> AOS/LOS time and azimuth and the  maximum
> elevation.  I'm also hoping 
> this algorithm will not be too computationally intensive as
> it may 
> possibly be used for hundreds of different station
> locations.
> 
> Can anyone help?

I'd suggest looking at books on spacecraft mechanics.

One which may help is "Fundamentals of Astrodynamics" by Roger R. Bate, Donald 
D. Meuller, and Jerry E. White (published by Dover).  It's one of the better 
books on the subject, in my opinion, as I found it easier to read than many of 
the others I've seen.  One does need some familiarity with calculus and linear 
algebra in order to understand the theory, however, but it's not overwhelming.

Another one is "Modern Spacecraft Dynamics & Control" by Marshall H. Kaplan 
(published by John Wiley & Sons).  It's good, too, but I didn't find it as easy 
to go through as the other one.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL



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