[amsat-bb] Re: Stealth Satellite Station?

2009-10-29 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Tim Goodrich t...@timgoodrich.net wrote:
 Build a 2m and 70cm Quadrifilar Helix- they'll give you coverage virtually
 horizon to horizon. Stick them on the roof by using a number of hose clamps
 to attach the PVC mast to one of the roof's metal plumbing vent pipes (not a
 gas exhaust or anything with hot air).

 Low profile, completely temporary, and good coverage.

 Tim
 KI6VBY

Tim's idea is a fine one. Alternatively, you could use AA2TX's
lindenblad designs.  You can even get away with a simple groundplane
bolted onto a female bulkhead N-connector.

In all these cases, though, the most important addition to your setup,
especially on 70cm, will be a low-noise preamp which is connected to
the antenna by a short run of very low-loss coax, such as LMR400.

Finally, as for hand-held use, have you tried operating your ht with
hand-held yagi indoors as if you were out-of-doors? Depending on the
sort of building you live in, this can work fairly well.

73, Bruce
http://ve9qrp.blogspot.com
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[amsat-bb] Re: Stealth Satellite Station?

2009-10-29 Thread Idle-Tyme
Yes, height is NOT important.

I would only go as high as needed to clear the ground when the antenna 
is elevated.

My first antenna for the birds ( Old birds Oscar 7  etc. )  was a 3 
element 2 meter quad.

Small compact and it sat inside my house right next to me on a camera 
tripod. and just twisted it by arm.

Worked GREAT!

The next day I even worked someone in Arkansas from here in Wisconsin.

Joe WB9SBD
--
Idle-Tyme
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
http://www.idle-tyme.com

David Wing wrote:
 Are you able to put up a temporary mast of modest height?  I've used a 2
 foot section of fence pipe in a bucket of quickcrete as a base and then use
 a smaller diameter of fence pipe to slide into the piece that is held in the
 bucket of cement.  I've gone as high as 30' with this kind of set-up by
 putting it next to a pillar, strapping it to the pillar with a truck load
 strap and then guying it with rope (this is how I put up my 6M summertime
 set-up...worked great).

 You certainly don't need to go 30'...12 or 15' might be just fine.  If the
 landlord could see that it's not being bolted to his property and is
 basically a portable set-up, he might be a lot more open to it.  In fact, I
 wouldn't even ask him.  If you're not attaching it to his house and there
 are no restrictions to an antenna in the back-yard, go for it.

 -Original Message-
 From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
 Behalf Of Kent Frazier
 Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:03 PM
 To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Stealth Satellite Station?

 I currently live in a rental house and an outside antenna is out of the
 question. I asked about putting up a satellite TV dish at my own expense
 last year and received and flat out NO.  So, my current options are as
 follows:

 1. Going out to my car and working the FM birds with my Icom 2720H and 19
 whip.
 2. Working the FM birds from the back/front yard or possibly inside the
 house with my Icom W32A and Elk LP antenna.
 3. Setting up my 2720 in the house with some sort of stealth antenna and
 give a try at satellite APRS.

 Obviously options 1 and 3 still allow for option 2.

 Has anyone tried any form of stealth antenna for Satellites. I am really
 interested in the idea of combining the satellites and aprs together.





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[amsat-bb] Re: Stealth Satellite Station?

2009-10-28 Thread David Wing
Are you able to put up a temporary mast of modest height?  I've used a 2
foot section of fence pipe in a bucket of quickcrete as a base and then use
a smaller diameter of fence pipe to slide into the piece that is held in the
bucket of cement.  I've gone as high as 30' with this kind of set-up by
putting it next to a pillar, strapping it to the pillar with a truck load
strap and then guying it with rope (this is how I put up my 6M summertime
set-up...worked great).

You certainly don't need to go 30'...12 or 15' might be just fine.  If the
landlord could see that it's not being bolted to his property and is
basically a portable set-up, he might be a lot more open to it.  In fact, I
wouldn't even ask him.  If you're not attaching it to his house and there
are no restrictions to an antenna in the back-yard, go for it.

-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Kent Frazier
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:03 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Stealth Satellite Station?

I currently live in a rental house and an outside antenna is out of the
question. I asked about putting up a satellite TV dish at my own expense
last year and received and flat out NO.  So, my current options are as
follows:

1. Going out to my car and working the FM birds with my Icom 2720H and 19
whip.
2. Working the FM birds from the back/front yard or possibly inside the
house with my Icom W32A and Elk LP antenna.
3. Setting up my 2720 in the house with some sort of stealth antenna and
give a try at satellite APRS.

Obviously options 1 and 3 still allow for option 2.

Has anyone tried any form of stealth antenna for Satellites. I am really
interested in the idea of combining the satellites and aprs together.

-- 
Kent R Frazier, K5KNT
AMSAT #36765, ARRL, San Angelo Amateur Radio Club, Tom Green County - ARES

Sent from San Angelo, TX, United States
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