[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 4:33:44 -0500 normn3...@stny.rr.com wrote: Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Well, with the odd exception the list seems to be largely spam-free. I don't see why we need to fix a problem that doesn't really exist. Oh, were you talking about moderating discussions you don't like? Yeah, there's another word for that. Can't quite remember it, it's on the tip of my tongue. And all you lids, kids and space cadets can get off my Internet. -- Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ gordon...@gjcp.net ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
Yup. This name calling and finger pointing is getting ridiculous. WB2SYK Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
I think it's time for me to officially unsubscribe. It's unfortunate because there is so much information presented here, but the cycle of negativity is a bit much. --jeff N3QO On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Jeffrey Koehler jeffk13...@yahoo.comwrote: Yup. This name calling and finger pointing is getting ridiculous. WB2SYK Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
YUp silence those that disagree...remember HITLER On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Jeffrey Koehler wrote: Yup. This name calling and finger pointing is getting ridiculous. WB2SYK Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
Having been a member of the list since the early 90's, I have seen my share of the same name calling, finger pointing etc. When AO-40 ceased operations, there was finger pointing as to who was responsible for what and who did what. This went on for weeks and weeks. There have been many more instances of this. We have always had problems with let's say one person being negative and starting a flame thread going. What makes this list unique is that it is not moderated and everyone can voice their opinion. How would you feel if you posted a message to the list and you used a word in it that the moderator felt was not appropriate for the list and your message was bounced? It puts a tremendous amount of work and responsibility on the moderator. He cannot do it alone so you will have multiple moderators. Now, you have several people all of which will be interpreting the rules a different way. We see this in the court room on a daily basis. One guy robs a bank and gets 5 years another does it and gets 2. One is caught DWI and gets probation another gets 2 years. This is how our messages will be interpreted and this is probably worse than us being able to filter what we want when we want. When a thread does not meet my standards, I filter the thread to the junk bin and if there is someone that is continuously wreaking havoc, I filter them out. I have total control of what I read and see. And, as some have done over the years including board members, unsubscribe. These are all choices that are available to you and none of them needs or requires a list moderator. 73...bruce From: normn3...@stny.rr.com normn3...@stny.rr.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Fri, December 9, 2011 3:33:44 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
I like the list the way it is. When someone starts a negative thread they usually end up making an ass out of themselves, and then go away. In these lean times this un moderated list is a good test of sat op character :-) 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:41 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: moderated list Having been a member of the list since the early 90's, I have seen my share of the same name calling, finger pointing etc. When AO-40 ceased operations, there was finger pointing as to who was responsible for what and who did what. This went on for weeks and weeks. There have been many more instances of this. We have always had problems with let's say one person being negative and starting a flame thread going. What makes this list unique is that it is not moderated and everyone can voice their opinion. How would you feel if you posted a message to the list and you used a word in it that the moderator felt was not appropriate for the list and your message was bounced? It puts a tremendous amount of work and responsibility on the moderator. He cannot do it alone so you will have multiple moderators. Now, you have several people all of which will be interpreting the rules a different way. We see this in the court room on a daily basis. One guy robs a bank and gets 5 years another does it and gets 2. One is caught DWI and gets probation another gets 2 years. This is how our messages will be interpreted and this is probably worse than us being able to filter what we want when we want. When a thread does not meet my standards, I filter the thread to the junk bin and if there is someone that is continuously wreaking havoc, I filter them out. I have total control of what I read and see. And, as some have done over the years including board members, unsubscribe. These are all choices that are available to you and none of them needs or requires a list moderator. 73...bruce From: normn3...@stny.rr.com normn3...@stny.rr.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Fri, December 9, 2011 3:33:44 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 04:33:44 -0500 From: normn3...@stny.rr.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Self moderation should be good, like not posting other peoples personal emails, politics, religion, things of that nature that we also try to keep off the air should be also kept off here. Anyone wants to talk about it please feel free to send me a personal email and I am sure we can exchange our opinions. Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Not really... it only hides the truth. Unfortunately it reveals what and who we have to work around. In any voluntary endeavor such as ham radio, those that can contribute something positive do (not just snide comments) or are quiet and get out of the way so that others with the time, energy, or skills, or position can actually make progress in some positive direction can move forward despite all of these monkeys hanging on their backs and bitting at their ankles. Nothing beneficial EVER comes from BS, Opinions, snide remarks, or complaining against what OTHERS are doing. They are the ones doing something, these BS arm-chair complainers just get in the way. Email is a necessary evil so that those that are moving forward can communicate and spread the word. Bob, WB4APR ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
No more so than should we have to have permission to transmit on a satellite. That being said, I have noticed over the years that a lot of childish stuff has been said on the AMSAT-BB which may have impacted the participation of volunteers, contribution of donations or professional offers of assistance (launch opportunities). You really never know who is reading, and you may scare off potential membership or contribution. Please think before hitting send. Unlike the PTT button, you have still a chance NOT to say whats on your mind. Message: 15 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 4:33:44 -0500 From:normn3...@stny.rr.com To:amsat-bb@amsat.org amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] moderated list Message-ID:20111209093344.KKIX1.12900.root@hrndva-web05-z02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: moderated list
On Dec 9, 2011, at 2:33 AM, normn3...@stny.rr.com wrote: Anyone else feel the need for a moderated list? Nope. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
