Re: [Amsn-devel] shell plugin
I updated it, it's much more powerfull now and behaves better. Karel. 2007/6/2, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those who like it, I made a plugin for myself that isn't very usefull maybe but I thought it's cool anyway. If it's running, it allows one contact (configurable) to start a shell by typing startshell and then all input is evaluated and the output comes back as a message to that contact. There are some built in functions like webcam which sends a webcam invite and sendfile [path] which ... you know :p It also executes some shellbinaries like cp, ls, mv, cat ... etc (list is growing when I use it ). Closing the shell is done by sending endshell and then the conversation returns to normal. Here you can find it: http://users.pandora.be/kavmollem/shell.zip This isn't secure or anything and it isn't that good as it blocks the interpreter while running the external commands etc but it's just for myself now and that's OK for me. I just send it so if anyone likes it they could modify it to their needs as long as you keep my credits and send me the changes so I could apply 'm if I like 'm. Karel. PS: if you load it, change the allowed user as right now it's my testaccount (evil me) and I could hax0r you PS2: you could guess it, it's unsupported - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] DualDP bug
Multi user chat's with lots of users. Each DP is shown in the frame, it scrolls when there are too many dps to fit for the window. (I think) On 3 Jun 2007, at 11:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/06/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I know the bug, it's been annoying the hell out of me, it's caused by stupid bwidget's canvas trick to make a frame scrollable.. I tried to fix it.. couldn't... Why would that frame need to be scrollable? :S KKRT On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:42:02AM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: Yesterday evening I saw that when resizing the height of a CW a vertical scrollbar appeared next to my contact's DP; clicking and trying to drag it made it instatly disappear. it seems easily reproducible minor bug, of course, of those probably as stupid as annoying to fix, just to let you know, low priority ;) -- NoWhereMan (e.v.) -- http://www.nowhereland.it -- http://flatpress.nowhereland.it -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] DualDP bug
On 03/06/07, Tom Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multi user chat's with lots of users. Each DP is shown in the frame, it scrolls when there are too many dps to fit for the window. (I think) Aah, right. Didn't think of that, sorry :) On 3 Jun 2007, at 11:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/06/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I know the bug, it's been annoying the hell out of me, it's caused by stupid bwidget's canvas trick to make a frame scrollable.. I tried to fix it.. couldn't... Why would that frame need to be scrollable? :S KKRT On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:42:02AM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: Yesterday evening I saw that when resizing the height of a CW a vertical scrollbar appeared next to my contact's DP; clicking and trying to drag it made it instatly disappear. it seems easily reproducible minor bug, of course, of those probably as stupid as annoying to fix, just to let you know, low priority ;) -- NoWhereMan (e.v.) -- http://www.nowhereland.it -- http://flatpress.nowhereland.it - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Hey ! Could you please stop with all these useless speaking ? I am totally lost now... Anyway, all of that is silly because before creating the DL manager we MUST rewrite all the CW and we haven't do anydiscussion about it... Using TkHTML or not ? How should we design internals ? How many snits objects ? and so on... I know why Youness love this thread : he is like me and many others : he is afraid of beginning the CW rewrite. IMO, you should hurry to release 0.97Final to avoid too complicated merges between trunk and branch. And overall, we could begin by the new prefs window : that's necessary to do that and maybe has less impact than CW rewrite... So stop to worry about a negligible part of the UI there are many more important things to worry... Phil P.S. I can say now that my F7 is ready (took time because I wanted to clean my compiz/beryl git RPMs). Now I will be ready to code ! Mouahahahah ! Youness Alaoui a écrit : On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: Ok, I see, the hide the mini infobar (I call it like that for the bar in the CW) when FT managr is opened, I think it would be confusing, no ? how do you feel about it with that extension you're using ? when FTman is open (and active) no infobar is shown I know, I was asking about how it felt usability-wise. Anyways, the main issue you're bringing here is about the DM (FTMan) being in a tab or not. I explained all my design in a previous mail, and it was to appear in a tab of the currently focused container whenever you open the DM (by either accepting a file and having the option to show when you start a transfer, or by using the Ctrl-Alt-T hotkey), if you have multiple containers, then you would have a DM window as a tab in each container (only if you open the transfer window while having the container focused). [...] I think that displaying it as a tab in a non-tab-centrical environment may appear confusing; Opera *is* tab-centrical :) yes, which is why I said if using non-tabs, then have it as a seaparate window. Of course it wouldn't be as a tab if you have tabs disabled (it wouldn't even be possible because if you don't use tabs, you won't have the container to put it in). Problem I see now is about the menubar, it won't fit for the transfers tab. So maybe even if in tabbed mode, it should be a separate window... You can always detach the DM tab, or you can have it appear as a separate window if you don't use tabbed browsing. Now that I'm thinking about it, it would be good to have an option for 'show as a tab' or 'show as a standalone window' for when user has tabbed windows enabled. yep, maybe You would have one line in the infobar per download currently happening in the current CW. IMO having one infobar per transfer per contact would be ok. yes, + an additional 'download manager', because the infobar is not enough to provide all the options, otherwise it would be too bloated. * Having tabs disabled, each window would have its own group of infobars (maybe with right click options to cancel, pause or whatever you can do with it; ffox has click-to-toggle/untoggle pause); right click isn't the best choice, many users don't know that right click exists, and on Mac it would be difficult because of the command/ctrl-click to activate the right click... * if tabs are enabled clicking on a tab would update the infobar with contact's own transfers well, if the infobar is in the CW, then it wouldn't matter, the buttonbar and all that are part of the CW, when we switch tab, we switch the whole CW, so infobars would go along with it, we don't just replace the output/input areas... WLM actually stops here (ok, no infobar there, it's just an inline widget), you may now want to add the DM; this may show up on demand, right clicking on the infobar or clicking on a you have N transfers open link right on the infobar, or whatever... yeah, that's the idea. The 'you have N transfers open' is a good idea for when the user has more than X transfers at the same time (3 ?) to avoid having the infobar too big for transfer-addict users... But anyways, the idea was to have the DM + the infobar, and clicking the infobar would bring up the DM. Or... well I don't know guys :D just a stream of thoughts... sure no prob, that's what brainstorming is, right ? You see, you came up with a good idea (you have N transfers open), and it helped me think of putting that if there are too many transfers! bye :) -- NoWhereMan (e.v.) -- http://www.nowhereland.it -- http://flatpress.nowhereland.it - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
lol, true, but I'm not afraid about the rewrite of the CW :p It's just Tom I think who asked the question and we started discussing it. If you want, we can also start an endless discussion about the CW :) KKRT On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 03:33:56PM +0200, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Hey ! Could you please stop with all these useless speaking ? I am totally lost now... Anyway, all of that is silly because before creating the DL manager we MUST rewrite all the CW and we haven't do anydiscussion about it... Using TkHTML or not ? How should we design internals ? How many snits objects ? and so on... I know why Youness love this thread : he is like me and many others : he is afraid of beginning the CW rewrite. IMO, you should hurry to release 0.97Final to avoid too complicated merges between trunk and branch. And overall, we could begin by the new prefs window : that's necessary to do that and maybe has less impact than CW rewrite... So stop to worry about a negligible part of the UI there are many more important things to worry... Phil P.S. I can say now that my F7 is ready (took time because I wanted to clean my compiz/beryl git RPMs). Now I will be ready to code ! Mouahahahah ! Youness Alaoui a écrit : On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: Ok, I see, the hide the mini infobar (I call it like that for the bar in the CW) when FT managr is opened, I think it would be confusing, no ? how do you feel about it with that extension you're using ? when FTman is open (and active) no infobar is shown I know, I was asking about how it felt usability-wise. Anyways, the main issue you're bringing here is about the DM (FTMan) being in a tab or not. I explained all my design in a previous mail, and it was to appear in a tab of the currently focused container whenever you open the DM (by either accepting a file and having the option to show when you start a transfer, or by using the Ctrl-Alt-T hotkey), if you have multiple containers, then you would have a DM window as a tab in each container (only if you open the transfer window while having the container focused). [...] I think that displaying it as a tab in a non-tab-centrical environment may appear confusing; Opera *is* tab-centrical :) yes, which is why I said if using non-tabs, then have it as a seaparate window. Of course it wouldn't be as a tab if you have tabs disabled (it wouldn't even be possible because if you don't use tabs, you won't have the container to put it in). Problem I see now is about the menubar, it won't fit for the transfers tab. So maybe even if in tabbed mode, it should be a separate window... You can always detach the DM tab, or you can have it appear as a separate window if you don't use tabbed browsing. Now that I'm thinking about it, it would be good to have an option for 'show as a tab' or 'show as a standalone window' for when user has tabbed windows enabled. yep, maybe You would have one line in the infobar per download currently happening in the current CW. IMO having one infobar per transfer per contact would be ok. yes, + an additional 'download manager', because the infobar is not enough to provide all the options, otherwise it would be too bloated. * Having tabs disabled, each window would have its own group of infobars (maybe with right click options to cancel, pause or whatever you can do with it; ffox has click-to-toggle/untoggle pause); right click isn't the best choice, many users don't know that right click exists, and on Mac it would be difficult because of the command/ctrl-click to activate the right click... * if tabs are enabled clicking on a tab would update the infobar with contact's own transfers well, if the infobar is in the CW, then it wouldn't matter, the buttonbar and all that are part of the CW, when we switch tab, we switch the whole CW, so infobars would go along with it, we don't just replace the output/input areas... WLM actually stops here (ok, no infobar there, it's just an inline widget), you may now want to add the DM; this may show up on demand, right clicking on the infobar or clicking on a you have N transfers open link right on the infobar, or whatever... yeah, that's the idea. The 'you have N transfers open' is a good idea for when the user has more than X transfers at the same time (3 ?) to avoid having the infobar too big for transfer-addict users... But anyways, the idea was to have the DM + the infobar, and clicking the infobar would bring up the DM. Or... well I don't know guys :D just a stream of thoughts... sure no prob, that's what brainstorming is, right ? You see, you came up with a good idea (you have N transfers open), and it helped me think of putting that if there are too many transfers! bye
