[Amsn-devel] Notification window.

2008-01-12 Thread square87
Hi all :)

I just want to say that i'll start to work on notification window to allow
smileys and colored text in it. Just i did with topCW.
If you are not agree or whatever: say it :P

I'll update this post.

Bye.
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Notification window.

2008-01-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
I don't agree 
well.. I don't like the idea because we want to have a bugfix release, and I 
don't want new features in... 
The MSNP15 was ok because everything was inside an 'if [config::getKey 
protocol] == 15' so it wouldn't affect anything else. 
But now, you're already working on it, and scapor is also doing some new stuff, 
so we're starting to get some improvements, and maybe that's all 
because we just released, we're not in a feature freeze, so everyone is happy 
and active... and I'm happy to see amsn-commits mailing list flooding my 
inbox, so I don't want to stop anyone from doing what they think should be 
done... 
Once we do the bugfix release, we might just apply patches one after the other 
into the 0_97 branch or something like that and release the version 
without any of the new 'unstable' functionality and leave the new features for 
0.98.

KaKaRoTo

On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:20:47AM +, square87 wrote:
 Hi all :)
 
 I just want to say that i'll start to work on notification window to allow
 smileys and colored text in it. Just i did with topCW.
 If you are not agree or whatever: say it :P
 
 I'll update this post.
 
 Bye.
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Notification window.

2008-01-12 Thread Tom Hennigan
Why not branch now? Then new features can go to trunk, bug fixes go on  
the 0.97.1 branch?

On 12 Jan 2008, at 20:26, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 I don't agree
 well.. I don't like the idea because we want to have a bugfix  
 release, and I don't want new features in...
 The MSNP15 was ok because everything was inside an 'if  
 [config::getKey protocol] == 15' so it wouldn't affect anything else.
 But now, you're already working on it, and scapor is also doing some  
 new stuff, so we're starting to get some improvements, and maybe  
 that's all
 because we just released, we're not in a feature freeze, so everyone  
 is happy and active... and I'm happy to see amsn-commits mailing  
 list flooding my
 inbox, so I don't want to stop anyone from doing what they think  
 should be done...
 Once we do the bugfix release, we might just apply patches one after  
 the other into the 0_97 branch or something like that and release  
 the version
 without any of the new 'unstable' functionality and leave the new  
 features for 0.98.

 KaKaRoTo

 On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:20:47AM +, square87 wrote:
 Hi all :)

 I just want to say that i'll start to work on notification window  
 to allow
 smileys and colored text in it. Just i did with topCW.
 If you are not agree or whatever: say it :P

 I'll update this post.

 Bye.
 Square87

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Notification window.

2008-01-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
Can be done, but we can also do it later...
basically, why later.. only because the more I wait, the more chance someone 
else will do this boring task... lol
no seriously, the reason is because if we have two branches now, we'll have to 
commit in both branches, which is difficult/complicated/blabla (and 
more of a PITA than difficult).. but in the end, before we release, we will 
still need to check every commit to make sure that we didn't forget any 
bugfix, then apply them on the branch (like we did for previous versions but 
skipped it for 0.97 since we had no new feature and it was a pain to do).
so why waste time now, do the branch thing, then spend months developping and 
double-commiting, and in the end, review each commit and apply missing 
commits to the branch, while we could just develop normal, and in the end, 
review each commit and apply bugfix commits to the branch ?
that was my idea, I could be wrong, in the end, do whatever you think is best.

KaKaRoTo

On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:32:46PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Why not branch now? Then new features can go to trunk, bug fixes go on  
 the 0.97.1 branch?
 
 On 12 Jan 2008, at 20:26, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  I don't agree
  well.. I don't like the idea because we want to have a bugfix  
  release, and I don't want new features in...
  The MSNP15 was ok because everything was inside an 'if  
  [config::getKey protocol] == 15' so it wouldn't affect anything else.
  But now, you're already working on it, and scapor is also doing some  
  new stuff, so we're starting to get some improvements, and maybe  
  that's all
  because we just released, we're not in a feature freeze, so everyone  
  is happy and active... and I'm happy to see amsn-commits mailing  
  list flooding my
  inbox, so I don't want to stop anyone from doing what they think  
  should be done...
  Once we do the bugfix release, we might just apply patches one after  
  the other into the 0_97 branch or something like that and release  
  the version
  without any of the new 'unstable' functionality and leave the new  
  features for 0.98.
 
  KaKaRoTo
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:20:47AM +, square87 wrote:
  Hi all :)
 
  I just want to say that i'll start to work on notification window  
  to allow
  smileys and colored text in it. Just i did with topCW.
  If you are not agree or whatever: say it :P
 
  I'll update this post.
 
  Bye.
  Square87
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Notification window.

2008-01-12 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
The branch is here
We only have to merge changes applied to the trunk to it
In fact I hope we will do 0.97.1 without any P15 code !
Phil

Youness Alaoui a écrit :
 Can be done, but we can also do it later...
 basically, why later.. only because the more I wait, the more chance someone 
 else will do this boring task... lol
 no seriously, the reason is because if we have two branches now, we'll have 
 to commit in both branches, which is difficult/complicated/blabla (and 
 more of a PITA than difficult).. but in the end, before we release, we will 
 still need to check every commit to make sure that we didn't forget any 
 bugfix, then apply them on the branch (like we did for previous versions but 
 skipped it for 0.97 since we had no new feature and it was a pain to do).
 so why waste time now, do the branch thing, then spend months developping and 
 double-commiting, and in the end, review each commit and apply missing 
 commits to the branch, while we could just develop normal, and in the end, 
 review each commit and apply bugfix commits to the branch ?
 that was my idea, I could be wrong, in the end, do whatever you think is best.
 
 KaKaRoTo
 
 On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:32:46PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
 Why not branch now? Then new features can go to trunk, bug fixes go on  
 the 0.97.1 branch?

 On 12 Jan 2008, at 20:26, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 I don't agree
 well.. I don't like the idea because we want to have a bugfix  
 release, and I don't want new features in...
 The MSNP15 was ok because everything was inside an 'if  
 [config::getKey protocol] == 15' so it wouldn't affect anything else.
 But now, you're already working on it, and scapor is also doing some  
 new stuff, so we're starting to get some improvements, and maybe  
 that's all
 because we just released, we're not in a feature freeze, so everyone  
 is happy and active... and I'm happy to see amsn-commits mailing  
 list flooding my
 inbox, so I don't want to stop anyone from doing what they think  
 should be done...
 Once we do the bugfix release, we might just apply patches one after  
 the other into the 0_97 branch or something like that and release  
 the version
 without any of the new 'unstable' functionality and leave the new  
 features for 0.98.

 KaKaRoTo

 On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:20:47AM +, square87 wrote:
 Hi all :)

 I just want to say that i'll start to work on notification window  
 to allow
 smileys and colored text in it. Just i did with topCW.
 If you are not agree or whatever: say it :P

 I'll update this post.

 Bye.
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Notification window.

2008-01-12 Thread Youness Alaoui
and to also separate their commits, in order words don't do one commit 
containing multiple things like a bugfix and a feature... make them into 2 
commits.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 12:05:01AM +0100, Harry Vennik wrote:
 I agee to that. As we have to use the 0_97 branch anyway (and we do),  
 why not skip the MSNP15-related commits... That means less work and a  
 better bugfix release!
 
 Anyway, everyone should take care to have real descriptive commit  
 messages, it will be easier then to select which commits should be  
 merged into the 0_97 branch.
 
 Harry
 
 Op 12-jan-2008, om 23:25 heeft Philippe Valembois - Phil het volgende  
 geschreven:
 
  The branch is here
  We only have to merge changes applied to the trunk to it
  In fact I hope we will do 0.97.1 without any P15 code !
  Phil
 
  Youness Alaoui a écrit :
  Can be done, but we can also do it later...
  basically, why later.. only because the more I wait, the more  
  chance someone else will do this boring task... lol
  no seriously, the reason is because if we have two branches now,  
  we'll have to commit in both branches, which is difficult/ 
  complicated/blabla (and
  more of a PITA than difficult).. but in the end, before we  
  release, we will still need to check every commit to make sure  
  that we didn't forget any
  bugfix, then apply them on the branch (like we did for previous  
  versions but skipped it for 0.97 since we had no new feature and  
  it was a pain to do).
  so why waste time now, do the branch thing, then spend months  
  developping and double-commiting, and in the end, review each  
  commit and apply missing
  commits to the branch, while we could just develop normal, and in  
  the end, review each commit and apply bugfix commits to the branch ?
  that was my idea, I could be wrong, in the end, do whatever you  
  think is best.
 
  KaKaRoTo
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:32:46PM +, Tom Hennigan wrote:
  Why not branch now? Then new features can go to trunk, bug fixes  
  go on
  the 0.97.1 branch?
 
  On 12 Jan 2008, at 20:26, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 
  I don't agree
  well.. I don't like the idea because we want to have a bugfix
  release, and I don't want new features in...
  The MSNP15 was ok because everything was inside an 'if
  [config::getKey protocol] == 15' so it wouldn't affect anything  
  else.
  But now, you're already working on it, and scapor is also doing  
  some
  new stuff, so we're starting to get some improvements, and maybe
  that's all
  because we just released, we're not in a feature freeze, so  
  everyone
  is happy and active... and I'm happy to see amsn-commits mailing
  list flooding my
  inbox, so I don't want to stop anyone from doing what they think
  should be done...
  Once we do the bugfix release, we might just apply patches one  
  after
  the other into the 0_97 branch or something like that and release
  the version
  without any of the new 'unstable' functionality and leave the new
  features for 0.98.
 
  KaKaRoTo
 
  On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:20:47AM +, square87 wrote:
  Hi all :)
 
  I just want to say that i'll start to work on notification  
  window
  to allow
  smileys and colored text in it. Just i did with topCW.
  If you are not agree or whatever: say it :P
 
  I'll update this post.
 
  Bye.
  Square87
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