Re: [Amsn-devel] SF Logo...

2006-02-19 Thread Karol Krizka
On Saturday 18 February 2006 21:01, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Thanks Phil for noticing this...
> I think Karol fixed it in www/ module of cvs
> Karol, please give feedback when it's on the website.
It's now.


> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 10:48:47PM +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I viewed statistics today and I found a strange thing : the counter
> > associated to SF logo is very low... So I viewed the web page and saw
> > that it's a modified logo we have...
> > But there is a huge trouble. If you look at
> > http://sourceforge.net/docs/E07/en/#logo you will see that we mustn't
> > modify in any way the logo and we must use one of the predefined logos...
> > In addition, it prevents the stats to be reliable...
> > If I could know where are the logos, I would have modified the link but
> > it's only on the admin pages...
> > Phil
> >
> >
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[Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Le Philousophe - Phil
Hi,
On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because TkCxImage 
has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++ dynamically like 
it was done if first versions of packages... (I think it's libstdc++ what has 
text relocations in it but he has rights to do it...)
So I have a trouble :
1) we will have to do 2 packages
2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am afraid of 
where we will put that to warn them before they download...
Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4... :s
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
I don't understand the reason why we can't have just 1 fedora core 4
package, can you explain again?

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 11:17 +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> Hi,
> On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because TkCxImage 
> has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++ dynamically like 
> it was done if first versions of packages... (I think it's libstdc++ what has 
> text relocations in it but he has rights to do it...)
> So I have a trouble :
> 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am afraid of 
> where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4... :s
> Phil
> 
> 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216

2006-02-19 Thread Arieh Schneier
Ok, I think I fixed it.

I believe it was a race condition, all that was required was an [update
idletasks].

Could people please test and check that the problem indeed is fixed (I have
only tested on windows on 8.4.11).

Lio.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216


Thanks :)


On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:16:22 -0500, Arieh Schneier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've marked this as a todo for when I get the chance.
>
> Lio.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn
> chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
>
>
> I know!!! I remember when you worked on it, I was helping you a bit, at
> that time...
> do you think you can spend a bit more time trying to make it work with
> 8.4.10+ ? I remember you were exhausted of all the work involved with it,
> and I understand that, but it would be better if you spent some time to
> fix this instead of removing the feature.. at least your work wouldn't be
> wasted! If you don't have any motivation for this, or don't have time, I
> understand!
>
> Thanks,
> KKRT
>
>
> On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 08:34:34 -0500, Arieh Schneier
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Man, I spent so long trying to get those procs to work correctly and not
>> have any infinite loops - I was using 8.4.9 at the time :(.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sander Hoentjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn
>> chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
>>
>>
>>> it gets in an infinite loop
>>> It is bound on Configure event and something cause that event to happen
>>> in the proc OutputPaneConfigured I think
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:55 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>> > ok, that exaplins why it didn't work anymore (FIXME item on IRC) ...
>> it's
>>> > because of my tcl/tk version.. so do you have any idea what the
>>> problem
>> is
>>> > ? does it freeze ? crash ? kill your cat ?
>>> > I hope we can fix it because now the sash thing is very ugly like it
>>> is
>>> > now..
>>> >
>>> > KKRT
>>> >
>>> > --- Forwarded message ---
>>> > From: "Sander Hoentjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
>>> > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:45:16 -0500
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Log Message:
>>> > fix for hang when tabbed chatting in tcl/tk 8.5
>>> > (I know we don't support it but from 8.4.10 this problem occured)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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[Amsn-devel] [Task #124066] paned window is not good with tcl 8.4.10+

2006-02-19 Thread SourceForge.net
Task #124066 has been updated. 

Project: aMSN
Subproject: Chatwindows
Summary: paned window is not good with tcl 8.4.10+ 
Complete: 100%
Status: Closed
Authority  : kakaroto
Assigned to: lio_lion

Description: The algorithm to resize the lowest part of the paned window 
instead of the top part seems to be broken since tcl/tk 8.4.10.
An alternative should be found

Follow-Ups:

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Date: 2006-02-19 21:56
By: lio_lion

Comment:
Was a race condition, added an [update idletasts] to fix.

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[Amsn-devel] [Task #124067] tcl/tk 8.5 freezes with new chat windows

2006-02-19 Thread SourceForge.net
Task #124067 has been updated. 

Project: aMSN
Subproject: Chatwindows
Summary: tcl/tk 8.5 freezes with new chat windows
Complete: 0%
Status: Open
Authority  : kakaroto
Assigned to: lio_lion

Description: no idea on the problem but resizing the sash fixes the freeze.

Follow-Ups:

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Date: 2006-02-19 21:57
By: lio_lion

Comment:
I don't have tcl/tk 8.5 so can't test, but this may have been fixed by another 
fix. Could someone please check this.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216

2006-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
I see no hang, but the bottom pane is the one resized when i make the
chatwindow larger/smaller

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 21:59 +1100, Arieh Schneier wrote:
> Ok, I think I fixed it.
> 
> I believe it was a race condition, all that was required was an [update
> idletasks].
> 
> Could people please test and check that the problem indeed is fixed (I have
> only tested on windows on 8.4.11).
> 
> Lio.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
> 
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> 
> On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:16:22 -0500, Arieh Schneier
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've marked this as a todo for when I get the chance.
> >
> > Lio.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn
> > chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
> >
> >
> > I know!!! I remember when you worked on it, I was helping you a bit, at
> > that time...
> > do you think you can spend a bit more time trying to make it work with
> > 8.4.10+ ? I remember you were exhausted of all the work involved with it,
> > and I understand that, but it would be better if you spent some time to
> > fix this instead of removing the feature.. at least your work wouldn't be
> > wasted! If you don't have any motivation for this, or don't have time, I
> > understand!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > KKRT
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 08:34:34 -0500, Arieh Schneier
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Man, I spent so long trying to get those procs to work correctly and not
> >> have any infinite loops - I was using 8.4.9 at the time :(.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Sander Hoentjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [Amsn-commits] msn
> >> chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
> >>
> >>
> >>> it gets in an infinite loop
> >>> It is bound on Configure event and something cause that event to happen
> >>> in the proc OutputPaneConfigured I think
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:55 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> >>> > ok, that exaplins why it didn't work anymore (FIXME item on IRC) ...
> >> it's
> >>> > because of my tcl/tk version.. so do you have any idea what the
> >>> problem
> >> is
> >>> > ? does it freeze ? crash ? kill your cat ?
> >>> > I hope we can fix it because now the sash thing is very ugly like it
> >>> is
> >>> > now..
> >>> >
> >>> > KKRT
> >>> >
> >>> > --- Forwarded message ---
> >>> > From: "Sander Hoentjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > Subject: [Amsn-commits] msn chatwindow.tcl,1.215,1.216
> >>> > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:45:16 -0500
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Log Message:
> >>> > fix for hang when tabbed chatting in tcl/tk 8.5
> >>> > (I know we don't support it but from 8.4.10 this problem occured)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Alberto Diaz
Hi Phil!
If SELinux is not the default there, I suppose the ones who choose it know 
what they are doing and so they know how to fetch a tgz and compile it, so 
for me the 'proper fix' is just add a note in the wiki or even a simple check 
in aMSN which warns the user: 'You are using a SELinux enabled version, 
please compile aMSN extensions on your own', something like that. I don't 
think the amount of users with SELinux is enough to create a second package, 
remember that feature is moe server-oriented than desktop oriented...

Just my 2 cents :)

Alberto

El Sunday, 19 de February de 2006 10:17, Le Philousophe - Phil escribió:
> Hi,
> On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because
> TkCxImage has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++ dynamically
> like it was done if first versions of packages... (I think it's libstdc++
> what has text relocations in it but he has rights to do it...)
> So I have a trouble :
> 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am afraid
> of where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4... :s
> Phil
>
>
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
SELinux is on by default. Anyway text relocation are a bad idea security
wise if I understand correctly. That is why SELinux won't allow them. So
in my opinion we should only have libs without them.

My 2 cents ;)

Sander

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 05:13 +, Alberto Diaz wrote:
> Hi Phil!
> If SELinux is not the default there, I suppose the ones who choose it know 
> what they are doing and so they know how to fetch a tgz and compile it, so 
> for me the 'proper fix' is just add a note in the wiki or even a simple check 
> in aMSN which warns the user: 'You are using a SELinux enabled version, 
> please compile aMSN extensions on your own', something like that. I don't 
> think the amount of users with SELinux is enough to create a second package, 
> remember that feature is moe server-oriented than desktop oriented...
> 
> Just my 2 cents :)
> 
> Alberto
> 
> El Sunday, 19 de February de 2006 10:17, Le Philousophe - Phil escribió:
> > Hi,
> > On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> > But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because
> > TkCxImage has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> > To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++ dynamically
> > like it was done if first versions of packages... (I think it's libstdc++
> > what has text relocations in it but he has rights to do it...)
> > So I have a trouble :
> > 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> > 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am afraid
> > of where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> > Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4... :s
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Le Philousophe - Phil
But it's because libstdc++ has Text Relocs. The only way to avoid that is 
compile without static libs... And if we do that, people will need my version 
of libstdc++ i.e. the last one from FC repos... But people doesn't like to be 
up to date...
Phil
P.S. I am not sure the context (which allow TkCxImage to run with text relocs) 
is preserved in RPMs...

Le Sunday 19 February 2006 15:05, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :
> SELinux is on by default. Anyway text relocation are a bad idea security
> wise if I understand correctly. That is why SELinux won't allow them. So
> in my opinion we should only have libs without them.
>
> My 2 cents ;)
>
> Sander
>
> On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 05:13 +, Alberto Diaz wrote:
> > Hi Phil!
> > If SELinux is not the default there, I suppose the ones who choose it
> > know what they are doing and so they know how to fetch a tgz and compile
> > it, so for me the 'proper fix' is just add a note in the wiki or even a
> > simple check in aMSN which warns the user: 'You are using a SELinux
> > enabled version, please compile aMSN extensions on your own', something
> > like that. I don't think the amount of users with SELinux is enough to
> > create a second package, remember that feature is moe server-oriented
> > than desktop oriented...
> >
> > Just my 2 cents :)
> >
> > Alberto
> >
> > El Sunday, 19 de February de 2006 10:17, Le Philousophe - Phil escribió:
> > > Hi,
> > > On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> > > But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because
> > > TkCxImage has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> > > To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++
> > > dynamically like it was done if first versions of packages... (I think
> > > it's libstdc++ what has text relocations in it but he has rights to do
> > > it...) So I have a trouble :
> > > 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> > > 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am
> > > afraid of where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> > > Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4...
> > > :s Phil
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
My libstdc++ doesn't have TEXTREL
$ readelf -d /usr/lib/libstdc++* |grep TEXTREL

it returns nothing.. if it had textrel i would have a result. (but I
have newer versions of the libs, maybe the FC4 ones do have it?)


On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:12 +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> But it's because libstdc++ has Text Relocs. The only way to avoid that is 
> compile without static libs... And if we do that, people will need my version 
> of libstdc++ i.e. the last one from FC repos... But people doesn't like to be 
> up to date...
> Phil
> P.S. I am not sure the context (which allow TkCxImage to run with text 
> relocs) 
> is preserved in RPMs...
> 
> Le Sunday 19 February 2006 15:05, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :
> > SELinux is on by default. Anyway text relocation are a bad idea security
> > wise if I understand correctly. That is why SELinux won't allow them. So
> > in my opinion we should only have libs without them.
> >
> > My 2 cents ;)
> >
> > Sander
> >
> > On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 05:13 +, Alberto Diaz wrote:
> > > Hi Phil!
> > > If SELinux is not the default there, I suppose the ones who choose it
> > > know what they are doing and so they know how to fetch a tgz and compile
> > > it, so for me the 'proper fix' is just add a note in the wiki or even a
> > > simple check in aMSN which warns the user: 'You are using a SELinux
> > > enabled version, please compile aMSN extensions on your own', something
> > > like that. I don't think the amount of users with SELinux is enough to
> > > create a second package, remember that feature is moe server-oriented
> > > than desktop oriented...
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents :)
> > >
> > > Alberto
> > >
> > > El Sunday, 19 de February de 2006 10:17, Le Philousophe - Phil escribió:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> > > > But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because
> > > > TkCxImage has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> > > > To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++
> > > > dynamically like it was done if first versions of packages... (I think
> > > > it's libstdc++ what has text relocations in it but he has rights to do
> > > > it...) So I have a trouble :
> > > > 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> > > > 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am
> > > > afraid of where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> > > > Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4...
> > > > :s Phil
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Youness Alaoui
If I remember correctly, the problem with SELinux is that the users needs 
tcltls 1.5 instead of 1.4... about text rel. in libstdc++ you could either find 
a non 
text relocatable libstdc++ and compile against that one OR as suggested 
earlier, have a simple note in the wiki or download page "if you have SELinux 
or if your 
system says you need TkCximage, download the source package and compile"

my 1 cent :P

KaKaRoTo

On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 11:49:57AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
> I don't understand the reason why we can't have just 1 fedora core 4
> package, can you explain again?
> 
> On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 11:17 +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> > Hi,
> > On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> > But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because 
> > TkCxImage 
> > has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> > To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++ dynamically 
> > like 
> > it was done if first versions of packages... (I think it's libstdc++ what 
> > has 
> > text relocations in it but he has rights to do it...)
> > So I have a trouble :
> > 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> > 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am afraid 
> > of 
> > where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> > Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4... :s
> > Phil
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 11:57 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> If I remember correctly, the problem with SELinux is that the users needs 
> tcltls 1.5 instead of 1.4... about text rel. in libstdc++ you could either 
> find a non 
> text relocatable libstdc++ and compile against that one OR as suggested 
> earlier, have a simple note in the wiki or download page "if you have SELinux 
> or if your 
> system says you need TkCximage, download the source package and compile"
> 
> my 1 cent :P
> 
> KaKaRoTo

If you create a package for Fedora Core then make one that works,
otherwise don't create one at all. So if you make one it has to work
with SELinux enabled since that is the default. Then you put up: If it
doesn't work make sure your system is updated (yum update libstdc++).
And YES the FC package has to have tcltls 1.5



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Re: [Amsn-devel] TkCxImage & static linking & SELinux

2006-02-19 Thread Karol Krizka
On Sunday 19 February 2006 08:57, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> If I remember correctly, the problem with SELinux is that the users needs
> tcltls 1.5 instead of 1.4... about text rel. in libstdc++ you could either
> find a non text relocatable libstdc++ and compile against that one OR as
> suggested earlier, have a simple note in the wiki or download page "if you
> have SELinux or if your system says you need TkCximage, download the source
> package and compile"
>
This reminds me. Are we going to update the tls installers in amsn to 1.5 and 
add the amd64 pacakge?

> my 1 cent :P
>
> KaKaRoTo
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 11:49:57AM +0100, Sander Hoentjen wrote:
> > I don't understand the reason why we can't have just 1 fedora core 4
> > package, can you explain again?
> >
> > On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 11:17 +0100, Le Philousophe - Phil wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > On FC4 we have the ability to enable SELinux patches from NSA...
> > > But if we do that, aMsn from current RPM won't want to run because
> > > TkCxImage has text relocations and SELinux forbid that by default...
> > > To avoid text relocations, we have to link it with libstdc++
> > > dynamically like it was done if first versions of packages... (I think
> > > it's libstdc++ what has text relocations in it but he has rights to do
> > > it...)
> > > So I have a trouble :
> > > 1) we will have to do 2 packages
> > > 2) we will have to explain to users the one they must use and I am
> > > afraid of where we will put that to warn them before they download...
> > > Another way would be to modify the making chain specifically to FC4...
> > > :s Phil
> > >
> > >
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