Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Chacon
Well  it's  company  phones  with  unlimited  texting  as  well  as
tablets. How  would  aidl, content  providers  or intent  work  between
them  and  office's  miles  apart?
This  is  a  internal  office  app , if sms  is not  the  way, then  we
need  a  more optimal  method.
On Mar 31, 2015 7:01 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Using SMS to communicate *between* apps on the phone!?

 You should 100% *not* be doing that.  It's bad design, and it could
 potentially cost your users money (if they pay for their texts).

 You can use an intent, content provider, or AIDL, and it will be way
 easier and much more obvious how to deal with than trying to hack it
 like this.

 Kris


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Chacon cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
  First it seemed easier to use sms to communicate between the apps. This
 will
  only be used internally, so no public version. If there is another way to
  communicate only within the app that will work also, basically don't
 need to
  have the messages in 2 places, right now when I send a message it's in
 the
  app and also in the default text app. Since the priority is set high,  is
  there a way to stop the message from moving onto the default app?
 
  On Mar 31, 2015 5:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  What's the motivation for doing this?
 
  It seems kind of counterintuitive that you'd want to do this, because
  presumably if the user *does* send a text, they want a record of it.
  It's easy to imagine a spam app which sends tons of texts and leaves
  no trace of it for the user to see!
 
  But I'm a little confused by your question: it sounds like you're
  talking about *receiving* texts as well?  If you're the highest
  priority, you should get the text first, and you should be able to
  disable texts from the builtin app (though I think it's a little bit
  of a hack).
 
  If you must, however, you can always simply delete that text from the
  sent folder on the phone.
 
  Kris
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
   So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our
   app as
   well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender
 and
   receiver devices)
   But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are
   showing
   up as text within the default text app on the phone.
  
   So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default
   text
   app as sent.
  
   I have this in the manifest
   receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
   intent-filter android:priority=999 
   action
   android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
   /intent-filter
   /receiver
  
   But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app.
 How
   can
   we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not
   affect the other text app?
  
   Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything
 initiated
   within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on
 the
   devices.
  
   Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in
 the
   users default text app.
  
   thank you
  
   Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the
   app,
   then it should end up where it normally does for the user.
  
   Hopefully that makes sense.
  
   thank you
  
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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Gabrilowitz
So basically, you are trying to build a messenger app that uses SMS as a
transport layer but doesn't affect other SMS apps?  Try investigating the
use of a data SMS rather than the usual text.
On Mar 31, 2015 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:

 So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our app
 as well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender and
 receiver devices)
 But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are
 showing up as text within the default text app on the phone.

 So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default
 text app as sent.

 I have this in the manifest
 receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
 intent-filter android:priority=999 
 action
 android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
 /intent-filter
 /receiver

 But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app. How
 can we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not
 affect the other text app?

 Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything initiated
 within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on the
 devices.

 Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in the
 users default text app.

 thank you

 Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the app,
 then it should end up where it normally does for the user.

 Hopefully that makes sense.

 thank you

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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Kristopher Micinski
The usual way to do this sort of communication between apps on
different devices is to use a push notification.  An example would be
Google Cloud Messaging, or Parse.

SMS would be possible, but just seems like a suboptimal solution when
things like GCM were designed to do exactly this: there are already
APIs and demos out there to handle this kind of communication.

Kris


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Daniel Chacon cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well  it's  company  phones  with  unlimited  texting  as  well  as
 tablets. How  would  aidl, content  providers  or intent  work  between
 them  and  office's  miles  apart?
 This  is  a  internal  office  app , if sms  is not  the  way, then  we
 need  a  more optimal  method.

 On Mar 31, 2015 7:01 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Using SMS to communicate *between* apps on the phone!?

 You should 100% *not* be doing that.  It's bad design, and it could
 potentially cost your users money (if they pay for their texts).

 You can use an intent, content provider, or AIDL, and it will be way
 easier and much more obvious how to deal with than trying to hack it
 like this.

 Kris


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Chacon cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
  First it seemed easier to use sms to communicate between the apps. This
  will
  only be used internally, so no public version. If there is another way
  to
  communicate only within the app that will work also, basically don't
  need to
  have the messages in 2 places, right now when I send a message it's in
  the
  app and also in the default text app. Since the priority is set high,
  is
  there a way to stop the message from moving onto the default app?
 
  On Mar 31, 2015 5:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  What's the motivation for doing this?
 
  It seems kind of counterintuitive that you'd want to do this, because
  presumably if the user *does* send a text, they want a record of it.
  It's easy to imagine a spam app which sends tons of texts and leaves
  no trace of it for the user to see!
 
  But I'm a little confused by your question: it sounds like you're
  talking about *receiving* texts as well?  If you're the highest
  priority, you should get the text first, and you should be able to
  disable texts from the builtin app (though I think it's a little bit
  of a hack).
 
  If you must, however, you can always simply delete that text from the
  sent folder on the phone.
 
  Kris
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
   So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our
   app as
   well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender
   and
   receiver devices)
   But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are
   showing
   up as text within the default text app on the phone.
  
   So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the
   default
   text
   app as sent.
  
   I have this in the manifest
   receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
   intent-filter android:priority=999 
   action
   android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
   /intent-filter
   /receiver
  
   But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app.
   How
   can
   we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and
   not
   affect the other text app?
  
   Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything
   initiated
   within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on
   the
   devices.
  
   Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in
   the
   users default text app.
  
   thank you
  
   Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the
   app,
   then it should end up where it normally does for the user.
  
   Hopefully that makes sense.
  
   thank you
  
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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Chacon
So with gcm it mentions going  thru  our servers, so  does  that  mean  we
have  to  host  something?
On Mar 31, 2015 9:02 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The usual way to do this sort of communication between apps on
 different devices is to use a push notification.  An example would be
 Google Cloud Messaging, or Parse.

 SMS would be possible, but just seems like a suboptimal solution when
 things like GCM were designed to do exactly this: there are already
 APIs and demos out there to handle this kind of communication.

 Kris


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Daniel Chacon cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well  it's  company  phones  with  unlimited  texting  as  well  as
  tablets. How  would  aidl, content  providers  or intent  work  between
  them  and  office's  miles  apart?
  This  is  a  internal  office  app , if sms  is not  the  way, then  we
  need  a  more optimal  method.
 
  On Mar 31, 2015 7:01 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Using SMS to communicate *between* apps on the phone!?
 
  You should 100% *not* be doing that.  It's bad design, and it could
  potentially cost your users money (if they pay for their texts).
 
  You can use an intent, content provider, or AIDL, and it will be way
  easier and much more obvious how to deal with than trying to hack it
  like this.
 
  Kris
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Chacon cuban...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   First it seemed easier to use sms to communicate between the apps.
 This
   will
   only be used internally, so no public version. If there is another way
   to
   communicate only within the app that will work also, basically don't
   need to
   have the messages in 2 places, right now when I send a message it's in
   the
   app and also in the default text app. Since the priority is set high,
   is
   there a way to stop the message from moving onto the default app?
  
   On Mar 31, 2015 5:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski 
 krismicin...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   What's the motivation for doing this?
  
   It seems kind of counterintuitive that you'd want to do this, because
   presumably if the user *does* send a text, they want a record of it.
   It's easy to imagine a spam app which sends tons of texts and leaves
   no trace of it for the user to see!
  
   But I'm a little confused by your question: it sounds like you're
   talking about *receiving* texts as well?  If you're the highest
   priority, you should get the text first, and you should be able to
   disable texts from the builtin app (though I think it's a little bit
   of a hack).
  
   If you must, however, you can always simply delete that text from the
   sent folder on the phone.
  
   Kris
  
  
   On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within
 our
app as
well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender
and
receiver devices)
But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they
 are
showing
up as text within the default text app on the phone.
   
So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the
default
text
app as sent.
   
I have this in the manifest
receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
intent-filter android:priority=999 
action
android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
/intent-filter
/receiver
   
But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default
 app.
How
can
we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and
not
affect the other text app?
   
Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything
initiated
within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app
 on
the
devices.
   
Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up
 in
the
users default text app.
   
thank you
   
Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside
 the
app,
then it should end up where it normally does for the user.
   
Hopefully that makes sense.
   
thank you
   
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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Chacon
So found  this  example  for  data  sms
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3757229/how-to-send-and-receive-data-sms-messages
On Mar 31, 2015 8:40 PM, Steve Gabrilowitz steveg1...@gmail.com wrote:

 So basically, you are trying to build a messenger app that uses SMS as a
 transport layer but doesn't affect other SMS apps?  Try investigating the
 use of a data SMS rather than the usual text.
 On Mar 31, 2015 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:

 So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our app
 as well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender and
 receiver devices)
 But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are
 showing up as text within the default text app on the phone.

 So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default
 text app as sent.

 I have this in the manifest
 receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
 intent-filter android:priority=999 
 action
 android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
 /intent-filter
 /receiver

 But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app. How
 can we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not
 affect the other text app?

 Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything initiated
 within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on the
 devices.

 Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in the
 users default text app.

 thank you

 Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the
 app, then it should end up where it normally does for the user.

 Hopefully that makes sense.

 thank you

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[android-developers] Where is my app? Where can I direct my complain?

2015-03-31 Thread J Handal
Updates:
Status: WrongForum

Comment #1 on issue 162501 by al...@android.com: Where is my app
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=162501

Sorry, this tracker is for issues with the Android OS only. Please use
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Nobody there only a lots of silly links

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[android-developers] My app removed after 3 years...thank you Larry google

2015-03-31 Thread J Handal
Comment #1 on issue 162501 by al...@android.com: Where is my app
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=162501

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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Daniel Chacon
First it seemed easier to use sms to communicate between the apps. This
will only be used internally, so no public version. If there is another way
to communicate only within the app that will work also, basically don't
need to have the messages in 2 places, right now when I send a message it's
in the app and also in the default text app. Since the priority is set
high,  is there a way to stop the message from moving onto the default app?
On Mar 31, 2015 5:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 What's the motivation for doing this?

 It seems kind of counterintuitive that you'd want to do this, because
 presumably if the user *does* send a text, they want a record of it.
 It's easy to imagine a spam app which sends tons of texts and leaves
 no trace of it for the user to see!

 But I'm a little confused by your question: it sounds like you're
 talking about *receiving* texts as well?  If you're the highest
 priority, you should get the text first, and you should be able to
 disable texts from the builtin app (though I think it's a little bit
 of a hack).

 If you must, however, you can always simply delete that text from the
 sent folder on the phone.

 Kris


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
  So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our
 app as
  well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender and
  receiver devices)
  But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are
 showing
  up as text within the default text app on the phone.
 
  So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default
 text
  app as sent.
 
  I have this in the manifest
  receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
  intent-filter android:priority=999 
  action
  android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
  /intent-filter
  /receiver
 
  But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app. How
 can
  we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not
  affect the other text app?
 
  Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything initiated
  within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on the
  devices.
 
  Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in the
  users default text app.
 
  thank you
 
  Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the
 app,
  then it should end up where it normally does for the user.
 
  Hopefully that makes sense.
 
  thank you
 
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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Using SMS to communicate *between* apps on the phone!?

You should 100% *not* be doing that.  It's bad design, and it could
potentially cost your users money (if they pay for their texts).

You can use an intent, content provider, or AIDL, and it will be way
easier and much more obvious how to deal with than trying to hack it
like this.

Kris


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Chacon cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
 First it seemed easier to use sms to communicate between the apps. This will
 only be used internally, so no public version. If there is another way to
 communicate only within the app that will work also, basically don't need to
 have the messages in 2 places, right now when I send a message it's in the
 app and also in the default text app. Since the priority is set high,  is
 there a way to stop the message from moving onto the default app?

 On Mar 31, 2015 5:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What's the motivation for doing this?

 It seems kind of counterintuitive that you'd want to do this, because
 presumably if the user *does* send a text, they want a record of it.
 It's easy to imagine a spam app which sends tons of texts and leaves
 no trace of it for the user to see!

 But I'm a little confused by your question: it sounds like you're
 talking about *receiving* texts as well?  If you're the highest
 priority, you should get the text first, and you should be able to
 disable texts from the builtin app (though I think it's a little bit
 of a hack).

 If you must, however, you can always simply delete that text from the
 sent folder on the phone.

 Kris


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
  So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our
  app as
  well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender and
  receiver devices)
  But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are
  showing
  up as text within the default text app on the phone.
 
  So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default
  text
  app as sent.
 
  I have this in the manifest
  receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
  intent-filter android:priority=999 
  action
  android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
  /intent-filter
  /receiver
 
  But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app. How
  can
  we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not
  affect the other text app?
 
  Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything initiated
  within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on the
  devices.
 
  Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in the
  users default text app.
 
  thank you
 
  Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the
  app,
  then it should end up where it normally does for the user.
 
  Hopefully that makes sense.
 
  thank you
 
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[android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Dan Cha
So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our app 
as well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender and 
receiver devices)
But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are 
showing up as text within the default text app on the phone.

So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default text 
app as sent.

I have this in the manifest
receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
intent-filter android:priority=999 
action 
android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
/intent-filter
/receiver

But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app. How 
can we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not 
affect the other text app?

Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything initiated 
within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on the 
devices.

Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in the 
users default text app.

thank you

Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the app, 
then it should end up where it normally does for the user.

Hopefully that makes sense.

thank you

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Re: [android-developers] Sending and receiving SMS within my own app and not show in the built in text app

2015-03-31 Thread Kristopher Micinski
What's the motivation for doing this?

It seems kind of counterintuitive that you'd want to do this, because
presumably if the user *does* send a text, they want a record of it.
It's easy to imagine a spam app which sends tons of texts and leaves
no trace of it for the user to see!

But I'm a little confused by your question: it sounds like you're
talking about *receiving* texts as well?  If you're the highest
priority, you should get the text first, and you should be able to
disable texts from the builtin app (though I think it's a little bit
of a hack).

If you must, however, you can always simply delete that text from the
sent folder on the phone.

Kris


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Dan Cha cuban...@gmail.com wrote:
 So im working or playing around with sending text/sms from within our app as
 well as receiving replies. We will have the app on both ends(sender and
 receiver devices)
 But right now just prelim testing the messages are sent but they are showing
 up as text within the default text app on the phone.

 So even though our app sent the message a copy shows up in the default text
 app as sent.

 I have this in the manifest
 receiver android:name=.SMSBReceiver 
 intent-filter android:priority=999 
 action
 android:name=android.provider.Telephony.SMS_RECEIVED /
 /intent-filter
 /receiver

 But as soon as the message is sent, its received in the default app. How can
 we configure or code our app to send and receive within itself and not
 affect the other text app?

 Basically we want to contain the text within the app, anything initiated
 within the app is only to show up in the app and no other sms app on the
 devices.

 Is this possible? We dont want copies of the text also showing up in the
 users default text app.

 thank you

 Now with that said, if someone sends a actually text from outside the app,
 then it should end up where it normally does for the user.

 Hopefully that makes sense.

 thank you

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