[android-developers] Re: Clarity on Wi-Fi Based application !!??

2010-08-03 Thread StillALearner
Thanks Kostya  Murphy,

I got a better understanding.. Now its time for some hands-on for me :)

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[android-developers] Re: Clarity on Wi-Fi Based application !!??

2010-08-03 Thread StillALearner
Well Kostya , thanks again..

Unless the router is under your control

   Yes, am trying with a Router that is configurable and controlled by
us.

A MAC address is just that - a MAC address, in this case, the Wifi
router will see the address of the phone's Wifi adapter. It has
nothing
to do with any other IDs, such as the cellular network's IMEI, etc.
But
it's guaranteed to be unique.

  Got that, but wat i really need to understand is if
android.provider.Settings.System.ANDROID_ID and the physical
(MAC)address that gets logged in the Router are the same ?

The central issue is where exactly (phone vs. router) you are able to
run the necessary code. It's easy to do on the phone

 Well, here is my scenario
  I need to invoke an activity X (via Notification manager ) when am
in Access Point 'A'.Assuming neccessary logic is at the mobile end.
 Now when i add a new access point 'B' and need to invoke X (when am
in AP 'A' or 'B') , in this case i need to change the code at mobile
end isn't it ?
 All i need is to avoid that.
Rephrasing that ,
 Mobile devices has to be independent of the logic written to invoke
notification mgr to call my activity as i need that logic to be
dynamically decided at the server end.
am trying if something like a push notification sent to the device
when in a specific n/w would work out ?! N figuring out  like hw 2
implement that !!
Let me know if thats feasible or if am missing out something.

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[android-developers] Re: Multiple Back Button clicks needed to exit application

2010-07-30 Thread StillALearner
Used finish(); to end an activity 


On Jul 30, 10:32 am, Priyank priyankvma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 In my current application design, I have an activity class
 application.java (which starts on launching the application), and it
 does not have a layout(UI screen). I call another class called
 servicebind.java from the onCreate method of my 1st class. here I bind
 to the local server (bindServer()). i call back the application class
 through an intent.
  Once I am back to my application class, I call my activity class
 called welcome.java which has a layout/UI.

 When I run this application, I am able to see the welcome screen. But
 the problem is, when I click on the back button, I get a black screen
 with just the title on top. I have to hit back button 3 times to exit
 the application.

 The reason I see from the logs is that, the 1st 2 activity classes
 (application.java and services.java) does not get destroyed unless I
 hit the back button. So the 1st time I hit back button, the welcome
 activity gets destroyed. the next back button destroys the servicebind
 class and final back destroys the application class.
 Is the reason because these classes dont have a UI to display in the
 onCreate method.

 I do not want to change my design where I bind the service in the
 servicebind class and call the welcome activity in the application
 class.

 can anyone please help me find a way to avoid pressing the back button
 multiple times to exit.
 Please let me know if you dont understand my question.

 Thanks,
 Priyank

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[android-developers] Clarity on Wi-Fi Based application !!??

2010-07-30 Thread StillALearner
Hello All,
I am trying to create an application based on Wi-Fi and i would need
some suggestion on the same ,
The scenario am trying is,say, when a user with our android
application enters a specific Wi-fi Hotspot, i need an activity to be
invoked from my app.
Basically I can have a service running as a part of my app and
whenever i scan for that specific hot-spot i can call up the
activity , BUT , i need to do the otherway round.. i mean instead of
running a service in the mobile and utilizing its resource, i want the
Wi-fi Hotspot to monitor and if the device is inside the vicinity it
needs to invoke a notification from which the activity can be
invoked...
Few things that i would like to understand is
I) When a wifi hot-spot is detected in our android phone what actually
happens at the Wi-Fi Hot spot end ??
2) When our device obtains an IP address from the wi-fi n/w will our
device's unique ID or its equivalents be available at the wi-fi
provider end ??

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[android-developers] Re: Clarity on Wi-Fi Based application !!??

2010-07-30 Thread StillALearner
Thanks for the early reply Kostya,

  Since your intent is to launch something on the phone, I don't
see why you would want to detect connection on the Wifi router side. 

Well My Idea was to
i)  Use the phone resource to the minimal
ii) to have control on when to invoke an activity from the server
end.. I thought there would be more dynamism from the server side.
Let me understand if am missing out something.

   I would suggest you use a Notification, which would launch an
activity when selected , Displaying an Activity in the middle of
whatever the phone user is doing is just plain wrong.

Completely agreed.

   If you did, you'd be able to use the phone's MAC address as
the unique identifier you require.

is it possible to get the MAC address of our phone  , is
android.provider.Settings.System.ANDROID_ID as the MAC address you wr
talking about , or is there any physical id which is diff from this
android_id

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[android-developers] Re: Best way for web service calls ??

2010-06-13 Thread StillALearner
@Vinod : I hope u mean the kSoap jar,but my main concern is the
payload, when it comes to SOAP services i felt it to be bit heavy
(help me understand if its the other way).I want it to be as light-
weight as possible.

@Doug  : The Video  PDF was really useful and inline with my
search :)

On Jun 13, 7:10 am, Desu Vinod Kumar vinny.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 U can try soap webservices also but it is not part of android api there is
 third party jar file for using this.





 On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, doug doug.di...@gmail.com wrote:
  Check out this guy -
 http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/sessions/developing-RESTful-and...

  Even though he sounds like a cross between Yoda and Grover.

  On Jun 11, 7:37 am, StillALearner k.mad...@gmail.com wrote:
   Thanks Paul,
    Everything else seems a bit too heavy
   Thats the exact concern for why i have been hunting around different
   forums to check out for a better option,  and as u said JSON with a
   RESTful service is one option am closely looking at.

   and other part which i need suggestion is on the Data
   syncronization !! how is it implemented ?

   On Jun 10, 10:44 am, paulb pbizan...@gmail.com wrote:

I tend to make RESTful requests over HTTP and expect back JSON
results. Everything else seems a bit too heavy.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, StillALearner k.mad...@gmail.com
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 Hello,
 I have been trying to develop an android application for sometime now
 and i would like to get some suggestion on the best way of making web
 service calls or to be generic the best way of communication between
 the android platform and web server.
 Soap(using Ksoap) and HTTP(using POST) are two methodologies  XML
  and
 JSON are the twodataformats that am aware of,(let me know if they
 are few other options too..) and ,
 i would like to know what is the best option ofdatatransfer when
 i) thedatato transfer is Large andlessfrequent.
 ii)morefrequentbutlessdatais being transfered.

 Also when it comes todatasynchronization between server and our
 app , how is that generally implemented ??

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[android-developers] Re: Best way for web service calls ??

2010-06-11 Thread StillALearner
Thanks Paul,
 Everything else seems a bit too heavy
Thats the exact concern for why i have been hunting around different
forums to check out for a better option,  and as u said JSON with a
RESTful service is one option am closely looking at.

and other part which i need suggestion is on the Data
syncronization !! how is it implemented ?


On Jun 10, 10:44 am, paulb pbizan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tend to make RESTful requests over HTTP and expect back JSON
 results. Everything else seems a bit too heavy.



 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, StillALearner k.mad...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
  I have been trying to develop an android application for sometime now
  and i would like to get some suggestion on the best way of making web
  service calls or to be generic the best way of communication between
  the android platform and web server.
  Soap(using Ksoap) and HTTP(using POST) are two methodologies  XML and
  JSON are the twodataformats that am aware of,(let me know if they
  are few other options too..) and ,
  i would like to know what is the best option ofdatatransfer when
  i) thedatato transfer is Large andlessfrequent.
  ii)morefrequentbutlessdatais being transfered.

  Also when it comes todatasynchronization between server and our
  app , how is that generally implemented ??

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[android-developers] Best way for web service calls ??

2010-06-09 Thread StillALearner
Hello,
I have been trying to develop an android application for sometime now
and i would like to get some suggestion on the best way of making web
service calls or to be generic the best way of communication between
the android platform and web server.
Soap(using Ksoap) and HTTP(using POST) are two methodologies  XML and
JSON are the two data formats that am aware of,(let me know if they
are few other options too..) and ,
i would like to know what is the best option of data transfer when
i) the data to transfer is Large and less frequent.
ii) more frequent but less data is being transfered.

Also when it comes to data synchronization between server and our
app , how is that generally implemented ??

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[android-developers] Best way for getting Data from web server ??

2010-06-08 Thread StillALearner
Hello,
 I would like to get some suggestion on the best way of making web
service calls , or to be generic the best way of communication between
our app and web server.
Soap(using Ksoap) and HTTP(using POST) are two methodologies  XML and
JSON are the two data formats that am aware of,(let me know if they
are other options too..) and ,
i would like to know what is the best option of data transfer when
i) the data to transfer is Large and less frequent.
ii) more frequent but less data is being transfered.

Also when it comes to data synchronization between server and our
app , how is that generally implemented ??

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[android-developers] Issue in installing SDK

2010-03-22 Thread StillALearner
Hi,

 I am trying to install the Android SDK  i get the following error

XML verification failed for 
http://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/repository.xml.
Error: cvc-elt.1: Cannot find the declaration of element 'HTML'.

My PC is behind proxy,is that an issue by any chance ? Also there is a
provision to specify proxy IP and port , i need to specify
authentication credentials for my proxy too, where to specify the same.

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