Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
After spending too much time trying to get a video of my app, I wanted to follow up on this thread. Last night I spent the better part of the night trying to capture video and audio from a walk-through of my application. I used Fraps to capture video of my desktop and the audio from my headset, which worked out really well. I used the emulator to run my application and a web browser beside it as that has a value for explaining usage. The emulator was so slow, causing issues not found while running on real hardware, and simply useless for these purposes. I can't imagine trying to do development on the emulator exclusively. I've always used my phone to debug and I suspect that if I didn't have that luxury, I wouldn't have lasted long trying to do Android development. It was awful. I managed to capture about 45 minutes of video which came down to about 20 minutes after editing. There's still a lot of lag and performance issues being shown in the video that aren't representative of the experience that customers have on their phone, so really, I won't be releasing what I've created so far. It won't do a lot for promotion if a prospective customer thinks they'll be waiting a minute for certain screens to show up -- when in reality they won't be. Now I need to find a way to capture using my phone directly and walking through the application that way. The performance is real, the experience is a better representation of the actual app, and will be a better showcase for what a customer is about to purchase. It sucks I can't use the emulator to convey that. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:00 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Kunju Vava android...@gmail.com wrote: plse give any idea? Start your own thread? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: Insight Thanks for the follow up. Could you use the image capture software to speed up final video to make it more representative of the on-device experience? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Now I need to find a way to capture using my phone directly and walking through the application that way. If you have a Mac Pro, and you have a device that offers HDMI out of the main display (e.g., a XOOM), you can capture from HDMI: http://graphics-geek.blogspot.com/2011/02/recording-animations-via-hdmi.html If you have a device that outputs composite video of the main screen (HTC Incredible, Samsung Galaxy Tab for some stuff, etc.), you can video-record that as well, though the results may not look as sharp. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in Oslo: http://bit.ly/fjBo24 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Some phones have a video-out that can mirror whatever's on the screen (not just for videos, like some other phones). The Samsung Galaxy S is supposed to be one of those: http://www.careace.net/2010/07/28/how-to-use-samsung-galaxy-s-tv-out-feature/ although I haven't had a reason yet to try it myself. If it's really as described, you could hook it up to a video recorder of some sort (a DVR, a video camera) or a video capture board, and record real-time video. -- Kostya 17.03.2011 22:40, Chris Stewart ?: After spending too much time trying to get a video of my app, I wanted to follow up on this thread. Last night I spent the better part of the night trying to capture video and audio from a walk-through of my application. I used Fraps to capture video of my desktop and the audio from my headset, which worked out really well. I used the emulator to run my application and a web browser beside it as that has a value for explaining usage. The emulator was so slow, causing issues not found while running on real hardware, and simply useless for these purposes. I can't imagine trying to do development on the emulator exclusively. I've always used my phone to debug and I suspect that if I didn't have that luxury, I wouldn't have lasted long trying to do Android development. It was awful. I managed to capture about 45 minutes of video which came down to about 20 minutes after editing. There's still a lot of lag and performance issues being shown in the video that aren't representative of the experience that customers have on their phone, so really, I won't be releasing what I've created so far. It won't do a lot for promotion if a prospective customer thinks they'll be waiting a minute for certain screens to show up -- when in reality they won't be. Now I need to find a way to capture using my phone directly and walking through the application that way. The performance is real, the experience is a better representation of the actual app, and will be a better showcase for what a customer is about to purchase. It sucks I can't use the emulator to convey that. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:00 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com mailto:treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Kunju Vava android...@gmail.com mailto:android...@gmail.com wrote: plse give any idea? Start your own thread? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com mailto:android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Kostya Vasilyev -- http://kmansoft.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
The latest version of Shot Me app features saving videos too. Not fully cinematic experience, still better than nothing :) Requires rooted device. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bw.picme.local Regards, Marcin Orlowski Tray Agenda for Android http://bit.ly/trayagenda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have a Droid X with the HDMI cable, but I'm not sure I have anything that can capture that video. I'll have to look more into that. I was thinking I would simply record me using the phone with a regular video camera that's mounted, as Nathan described. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote: The latest version of Shot Me app features saving videos too. Not fully cinematic experience, still better than nothing :) Requires rooted device. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bw.picme.local Regards, Marcin Orlowski Tray Agenda for Android http://bit.ly/trayagenda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies everyone. I have a Droid X with the HDMI cable, but I'm not sure I have anything that can capture that video. More importantly, I think the Droid X only supports HDMI out for the Gallery (i.e., videos and pictures), not arbitrary stuff. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in Oslo: http://bit.ly/fjBo24 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Thanks for the follow up. Could you use the image capture software to speed up final video to make it more representative of the on-device experience? I tried as much video editing magic as I could, and it just won't work. Some of it is because I'm capturing audio and video at the same time, not voicing over later, so I can't edit around both the audio and the video in certain situations or it doesn't make sense when it all comes together. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: Insight Thanks for the follow up. Could you use the image capture software to speed up final video to make it more representative of the on-device experience? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
More importantly, I think the Droid X only supports HDMI out for the Gallery (i.e., videos and pictures), not arbitrary stuff. Even better. :) I'll have to go old school on this I think. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies everyone. I have a Droid X with the HDMI cable, but I'm not sure I have anything that can capture that video. More importantly, I think the Droid X only supports HDMI out for the Gallery (i.e., videos and pictures), not arbitrary stuff. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in Oslo: http://bit.ly/fjBo24 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
I've thought about simply having someone record it with their phone (Droid 2) while I use the app on mine lol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Hi I am developng an app which displays fight ticket rate from several sites, i decided to use json to send the data, the problem is there are 20 more sites showing the details of flight rate , so how we can write this URL, if the data containe URL have big length and cannot find it how the google find all the data from sites and display i give the input as from and to place and date of journey, based on this input how we can finnd rate from a sites? plse give any idea? reply? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Kunju Vava android...@gmail.com wrote: plse give any idea? Start your own thread? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Morning everyone, I'm working on more and more complex features to my main app and I'm considering putting together a video of my application to walk through all of the features, highlighting those that are more involved. Especially with the addition of this field in the Android Market, it seems like a good idea to do this. So, I'm wondering, have any of you done this and want to share the URL to your video? I'm finishing up development now for the current version and so I'll be working on a rough script soon. I'd love to see how other developers have approached this. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
I have not and would be interested to hear from those that have as well. My biggest issue is spending time to make a video, then going in and adding more features that then basically render the video obsolete. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
That's definitely a concern of mine as well. That said, I've done a lot of amateur video work in the past and it's really not all that involved. I think if you spend the time to make a decent script of what you're going to say, how you're going to flow through your app, and stick to that, it's easy to go back and adjust it as features are added. I don't think you'd need to do a new video each time a feature is added, unless it's major, but maybe every few features to keep it up to date. I would also stay a little high level throughout the video unless a specific feature needs more detail. Lets face it, most people aren't necessarily interested in watching a 10-20 minute video of an app. I think if you stay in the 2-5 minute range, you're in good shape and that's short enough that recording new videos from new versions of the app wouldn't be too rough to manage. For recording, I've used Fraps to record and mix gameplay from various games on my PC and I was thinking about using it for this as well. I suspect I'll just use the emulator to run the app, and a web browser to perform actions that my app would adjust from. I expect to tie up any loose ends on my app tonight/tomorrow and have it released shortly thereafter. So I'll work on even a rough video of what I'm thinking about once this dev cycle is over. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: I have not and would be interested to hear from those that have as well. My biggest issue is spending time to make a video, then going in and adding more features that then basically render the video obsolete. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
