[android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
Well, if you are sending the APK to them to test then you trust they know how to test applications and probably have experience in installing APKs. Try asking someone who you woudn't give your app to test, someone you think wouldn't be a good tester. Also, maybe making the application display ads if it detect it wasn't installed from the market could help, and you can show messages to buy the no-ads version from the market. I believe you can use the licensing api for that. On 5 maio, 21:41, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine that is even close to 2% or 3%. I don't agree with the 2-3% at all. Every time I've tried to send somebody a private APK to test something, most of them knew how to install it. It maybe just the demographics of my app, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
This is a significant problem on Android. I am making money ok but I can only imagine how things would be if piracy wasn't so easy on this platform. - Constantly improve your app. If you have a cool app that people talk about, they don't want a version that's half a year old. - Sell things within your app. - Use LVL. - Limit the lifetime of your app so the app requires updates every few months (this is a tricky one, you are likely to lose a lot of users if you don't alert them well in in advance that an update is required). Martin mobitobi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
On 5 May 2011 09:34, mot12 martin.hu...@gmail.com wrote: - Limit the lifetime of your app so the app requires updates every few months (this is a tricky one, you are likely to lose a lot of users if you don't alert them well in in advance that an update is required). My experience with this approach is that it's better to use two deadlines. One is soft expiration where you pops someting (dialog/notification etc) that there's update and user have to update as the current version is no longer supported and hard expiration (perfectly at lest 2 or 3 weeks later than soft) which enforces upgrade by simply halting current version. And make sure you do not push that too frequent. Each version shall live no less than 1,5-2 months or your (l)users will rant. Regards, Marcin Orlowski *Tray Agenda http://bit.ly/trayagenda* - keep you daily schedule handy... *Date In Tray* http://bit.ly/dateintraypro - current date at glance... WebnetMobile on *Facebook http://webnetmobile.com/fb/* and *Twitterhttp://webnetmobile.com/twitter/ * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
Please try to imagine the percentage of people you know around you that would be capable of: * enabling debug to install apps remotely * getting the necessary BitTorrent programs * using them to download this file * extract that apps and install them to the phone I can't imagine that is even close to 2% or 3%. Most of your customers want nice and easy access to the app through the Market and will pay for it. I think most of them also believe that this is the only way to get apps and they don't know what an APK is. Focus on your customers, there's nothing you can about crap like this. Make sure their experience with you is much, much better than through piracy; it's pretty hard to screw this up but the music and movie industries manage to do it. Try not to make the same mistake. The people downloading these torrents won't pay you anyway even if you took it away from them. Concentrate on the people that will. On May 5, 4:54 am, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2011 09:34, mot12 martin.hu...@gmail.com wrote: - Limit the lifetime of your app so the app requires updates every few months (this is a tricky one, you are likely to lose a lot of users if you don't alert them well in in advance that an update is required). My experience with this approach is that it's better to use two deadlines. One is soft expiration where you pops someting (dialog/notification etc) that there's update and user have to update as the current version is no longer supported and hard expiration (perfectly at lest 2 or 3 weeks later than soft) which enforces upgrade by simply halting current version. And make sure you do not push that too frequent. Each version shall live no less than 1,5-2 months or your (l)users will rant. Regards, Marcin Orlowski *Tray Agenda http://bit.ly/trayagenda* - keep you daily schedule handy... *Date In Tray* http://bit.ly/dateintraypro - current date at glance... WebnetMobile on *Facebook http://webnetmobile.com/fb/* and *Twitterhttp://webnetmobile.com/twitter/ * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
I 100% agree with nemic. You can put tons and tons of effort in fighting piracy and maybe get a small return on it. It's better to spend this energy and effort in improving/augmenting your app for your paying customers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
I 100% agree with nemic. You can put tons and tons of effort in fighting piracy and maybe get a small return on it. It's better to spend this energy and effort in improving/augmenting your app for your paying customers. +1. My recent apps have been all over the piracy sites but instead of focusing any attention on that, I simply work to make my app better. Not sure there's a better way to look at the situation. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Streets Of Boston flyingdutc...@gmail.comwrote: I 100% agree with nemic. You can put tons and tons of effort in fighting piracy and maybe get a small return on it. It's better to spend this energy and effort in improving/augmenting your app for your paying customers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
I can't imagine that is even close to 2% or 3%. I don't agree with the 2-3% at all. Every time I've tried to send somebody a private APK to test something, most of them knew how to install it. It maybe just the demographics of my app, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
Read through the comments in that link. Look how many of them are asking how to load/install the apps from SD cards and get updates. If you can't compete with that you're going to be screwed on the Market anyway; whether your apps are on pirate sites or not. On May 5, 7:41 pm, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine that is even close to 2% or 3%. I don't agree with the 2-3% at all. Every time I've tried to send somebody a private APK to test something, most of them knew how to install it. It maybe just the demographics of my app, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
