Re: [android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-13 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
 If that's the case, nothing's preventing those other people from doing 
unspeakably terrible things to the device.


Like uninstalling your application altogether.

Nothing - short of building your own firmware, that is.

-- Kostya

13.08.2010 18:41, Mathias Lin пишет:

This non-technical client will hand/rent out the device to other
people for daily usage. I don't want those people to be mess around
with adb in any way.


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[android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-13 Thread Mathias Lin
Thanks for the info. It's clear now.

"enable adb by hand": I don't want to deliver the device with adb
enabled, because I don't want the end-user to be able to do anything
with adb.

Scenario is that my client (very non-technical) does the data sync
between PC application and Android device (using adb in the
background), so all he needs to do is plug in the device and sync from
within the Android application. In fact, he cannot even leave the
application.
So everything should be handled from the application, incl. enabling
adb end disabling adb when the data sync is completed.

This non-technical client will hand/rent out the device to other
people for daily usage. I don't want those people to be mess around
with adb in any way.



On Aug 12, 7:03 pm, Kostya Vasilyev  wrote:
>   "Ordinary" applications can't change Secure settings.
>
> The built-in settings application can change secure settings because it
> has a special key that the firmware knows about. Unless you create your
> own firmware, you can't give your application the same functionality.
>
> Now, any reason why you couldn't enable adb "by hand", before handing
> over the device with the application to the customer?
>
> - Kostya
>
> 12.08.2010 5:37, Mathias Lin :
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the info. But as I understand it, the settings are read
> > only:
>
> > "Secure system settings, containing system preferences that
> > applications can read but are not allowed to write. These are for
> > preferences that the user must explicitly modify through the system UI
> > or specialized APIs for those values, not modified directly by
> > applications."
>
> > .. or could you please tell me about the special key - couldn't find
> > any information about where to get or register such key. With
> > 'platform knows about' you mean the key needs to be registered with
> > the device first outside the app?
> > (Since I'm in full control of the devices and bundle the app together
> > with a device for distribution, that would be doable).
>
> > On Aug 12, 4:49 am, Kostya Vasilyev  wrote:
> >> ... but that is a Secure setting and, as such, can only be manipulated by
> >> applications signed with a special key (that the platform knows about).
>
> >> --
> >> Kostya Vasilyev --http://kmansoft.wordpress.com
>
> >> 12.08.2010 0:26 "QR"   :
>
> >> usb debugging is another name for the Android Debug Bridge (ADB). The
> >> item you're looking for is 
> >> here:http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Secu...
>
> >> On Aug 11, 5:39 am, Mathias Lin  wrote:>  Is it 
> >> possible to enable usb debuggi...
> >>> I was looking at Permission.WRITE_SETTINGS andhttp://
> >> developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Syst...
>
> >>> but couldn't find any appropriate setting there.
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-12 Thread Kostya Vasilyev

 "Ordinary" applications can't change Secure settings.

The built-in settings application can change secure settings because it 
has a special key that the firmware knows about. Unless you create your 
own firmware, you can't give your application the same functionality.


Now, any reason why you couldn't enable adb "by hand", before handing 
over the device with the application to the customer?


- Kostya

12.08.2010 5:37, Mathias Lin пишет:

Thanks for the info. But as I understand it, the settings are read
only:

"Secure system settings, containing system preferences that
applications can read but are not allowed to write. These are for
preferences that the user must explicitly modify through the system UI
or specialized APIs for those values, not modified directly by
applications."

.. or could you please tell me about the special key - couldn't find
any information about where to get or register such key. With
'platform knows about' you mean the key needs to be registered with
the device first outside the app?
(Since I'm in full control of the devices and bundle the app together
with a device for distribution, that would be doable).



On Aug 12, 4:49 am, Kostya Vasilyev  wrote:

... but that is a Secure setting and, as such, can only be manipulated by
applications signed with a special key (that the platform knows about).

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12.08.2010 0:26 пользователь "QR"  написал:

usb debugging is another name for the Android Debug Bridge (ADB). The
item you're looking for is 
here:http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Secu...

On Aug 11, 5:39 am, Mathias Lin  wrote:>  Is it possible 
to enable usb debuggi...

I was looking at Permission.WRITE_SETTINGS andhttp://

developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Syst...


but couldn't find any appropriate setting there.

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[android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-12 Thread FrankG
Hi Mathias,

The Settings-App uses a persistent system property to enable/disable
adb.


The property_service inside  the system controls which "process-id"
is allowed to set the different properties. Any Property starting
with
"persistent.service.*" can only be set by AID_SYSTEM.

So you app must be a system app to be able to set this kind
of properties and for this you have to sign it with the platform key
of the particular device.

Good luck !

  Frank



On 12 Aug., 03:37, Mathias Lin  wrote:
> Thanks for the info. But as I understand it, the settings are read
> only:
>
> "Secure system settings, containing system preferences that
> applications can read but are not allowed to write. These are for
> preferences that the user must explicitly modify through the system UI
> or specialized APIs for those values, not modified directly by
> applications."
>
> .. or could you please tell me about the special key - couldn't find
> any information about where to get or register such key. With
> 'platform knows about' you mean the key needs to be registered with
> the device first outside the app?
> (Since I'm in full control of the devices and bundle the app together
> with a device for distribution, that would be doable).
>
> On Aug 12, 4:49 am, Kostya Vasilyev  wrote:
>
>
>
> > ... but that is a Secure setting and, as such, can only be manipulated by
> > applications signed with a special key (that the platform knows about).
>
> > --
> > Kostya Vasilyev --http://kmansoft.wordpress.com
>
> > 12.08.2010 0:26 пользователь "QR"  написал:
>
> > usb debugging is another name for the Android Debug Bridge (ADB). The
> > item you're looking for is 
> > here:http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Secu...
>
> > On Aug 11, 5:39 am, Mathias Lin  wrote:> Is it 
> > possible to enable usb debuggi...
> > > I was looking at Permission.WRITE_SETTINGS andhttp://
>
> > developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Syst...
>
> > > but couldn't find any appropriate setting there.
>
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[android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-11 Thread Mathias Lin
Thanks for the info. But as I understand it, the settings are read
only:

"Secure system settings, containing system preferences that
applications can read but are not allowed to write. These are for
preferences that the user must explicitly modify through the system UI
or specialized APIs for those values, not modified directly by
applications."

.. or could you please tell me about the special key - couldn't find
any information about where to get or register such key. With
'platform knows about' you mean the key needs to be registered with
the device first outside the app?
(Since I'm in full control of the devices and bundle the app together
with a device for distribution, that would be doable).



On Aug 12, 4:49 am, Kostya Vasilyev  wrote:
> ... but that is a Secure setting and, as such, can only be manipulated by
> applications signed with a special key (that the platform knows about).
>
> --
> Kostya Vasilyev --http://kmansoft.wordpress.com
>
> 12.08.2010 0:26 пользователь "QR"  написал:
>
> usb debugging is another name for the Android Debug Bridge (ADB). The
> item you're looking for is 
> here:http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Secu...
>
> On Aug 11, 5:39 am, Mathias Lin  wrote:> Is it possible 
> to enable usb debuggi...
> > I was looking at Permission.WRITE_SETTINGS andhttp://
>
> developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Syst...
>
> > but couldn't find any appropriate setting there.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are su...

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-11 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
... but that is a Secure setting and, as such, can only be manipulated by
applications signed with a special key (that the platform knows about).

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12.08.2010 0:26 пользователь "QR"  написал:

usb debugging is another name for the Android Debug Bridge (ADB). The
item you're looking for is here:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Secure.html#ADB_ENABLED


On Aug 11, 5:39 am, Mathias Lin  wrote:
> Is it possible to enable usb debuggi...
> I was looking at Permission.WRITE_SETTINGS andhttp://
developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Syst...

> but couldn't find any appropriate setting there.

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[android-developers] Re: Enable usb debugging (under settings/applications/development) programatically from within app

2010-08-11 Thread QR
usb debugging is another name for the Android Debug Bridge (ADB). The
item you're looking for is here:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Secure.html#ADB_ENABLED

On Aug 11, 5:39 am, Mathias Lin  wrote:
> Is it possible to enable usb debugging (under
> settings/applications/development) programatically from within my app?
>
> I was looking at Permission.WRITE_SETTINGS 
> andhttp://developer.android.com/reference/android/provider/Settings.Syst...
> but couldn't find any appropriate setting there.

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