Re: [android-developers] Re: Google TV
Howard, any feedback on Google TV from Logitech? The reviews on Amazon are very mixed... On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Howard M. Harte hhar...@gmail.comwrote: This is what I received from Logitech yesterday about my preorder: Thank you for your recent pre-order from Logitech. This e-mail is to inform you that the product availability date has been delayed. Your pre-ordered product is now scheduled to be available on the date listed below. 10/21/10 00:00:00 Thanks. I'm impatient for new gadgets. I cancelled mine. The Sony Blu-ray Google TV for 100 more looks like a better deal and is shipping earlier. My only concern is a bunch of DRM gunk. I'll wait a bit for the reviews. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV
Still waiting for it to arrive, should be here today. I picked up the Sony Blue-Ray unit, and think it has potential, but some issues with my Dish Network box via the IR Blaster. I'm not too concerned though, only software issues, and I bought these for development not really to use them for watching TV. I have to say that the YouTube Leanback is pretty nice, and maybe now I'll have to get NexFlix. Based on the teardowns, I can see pros and cons to both devices, and I think Logitech did a nicer job putting the hardware together, but Sony has more USB ports and gigabit ethernet. Sony also has two wifi antennae, not sure if it is for MIMO or simply for diversity, whereas Logitech has one. -Howard On Oct 25, 10:50 am, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.com wrote: Howard, any feedback on Google TV from Logitech? The reviews on Amazon are very mixed... On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Howard M. Harte hhar...@gmail.comwrote: This is what I received from Logitech yesterday about my preorder: Thank you for your recent pre-order from Logitech. This e-mail is to inform you that the product availability date has been delayed. Your pre-ordered product is now scheduled to be available on the date listed below. 10/21/10 00:00:00 Thanks. I'm impatient for new gadgets. I cancelled mine. The Sony Blu-ray Google TV for 100 more looks like a better deal and is shipping earlier. My only concern is a bunch of DRM gunk. I'll wait a bit for the reviews. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV Remote Control App
Where do you get the remote control app? All I can find is the one for Logitech Revue. On Oct 22, 8:03 pm, keyeslabs keyes...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone put a packet sniffer on the remote control app provided for Android devices to interact with Google TV? I'm curious about what the protocol is. I would guess that it's ProtoBuf, or possibly XBMC (wouldn't that be nice?)... Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV
On Oct 12, 1:34 pm, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know the release date? I could have sworn that Amazon said it was October 15th, but now I just see on my order - We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate. This is what I received from Logitech yesterday about my preorder: Thank you for your recent pre-order from Logitech. This e-mail is to inform you that the product availability date has been delayed. Your pre-ordered product is now scheduled to be available on the date listed below. 10/21/10 00:00:00 -Howard On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.comwrote: The announcements I read was an SDK isn't being released yet for the Google TV (I also have one on order). Google is releasing the Android Market on the revue sometime in QI of next year, so it's got to happen by then if they want Google TV specific apps. My hope is someone will hack the system well before then so I can play freely with it. I'm pretty sure with the Sony Google TV such an SDK will never be available (but hey even Verizon changed its strips), but don't hold your breathe there. Shane On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Kumar Bibek coomar@gmail.comwrote: Well, I guess, it might need specific drivers for the set top box or TV, but we can never be sure until there's an official announcement. Everybody is waiting for that, me too :) On Oct 13, 12:42 am, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Google TV box when it comes out in a few weeks. I know that there is going to be an SDK released for the box at some point. Has anyone here heard any news about if we will be able to connect to the Logitech device via USB in order to test our applications, or if will there be some sort of separate Google hardware device or an emulator available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV
WellI can answer at least part of my own question. Reading through the developer FAQ (http://code.google.com/tv/web/ faq.html) as the very last point it states that an emulator will be made available with the SDK. On Oct 12, 3:42 pm, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Google TV box when it comes out in a few weeks. I know that there is going to be an SDK released for the box at some point. Has anyone here heard any news about if we will be able to connect to the Logitech device via USB in order to test our applications, or if will there be some sort of separate Google hardware device or an emulator available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Google TV
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Howard M. Harte hhar...@gmail.com wrote: This is what I received from Logitech yesterday about my preorder: Thank you for your recent pre-order from Logitech. This e-mail is to inform you that the product availability date has been delayed. Your pre-ordered product is now scheduled to be available on the date listed below. 10/21/10 00:00:00 Thanks. I'm impatient for new gadgets. I cancelled mine. The Sony Blu-ray Google TV for 100 more looks like a better deal and is shipping earlier. My only concern is a bunch of DRM gunk. I'll wait a bit for the reviews. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV
Well, I guess, it might need specific drivers for the set top box or TV, but we can never be sure until there's an official announcement. Everybody is waiting for that, me too :) On Oct 13, 12:42 am, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Google TV box when it comes out in a few weeks. I know that there is going to be an SDK released for the box at some point. Has anyone here heard any news about if we will be able to connect to the Logitech device via USB in order to test our applications, or if will there be some sort of separate Google hardware device or an emulator available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Google TV
The announcements I read was an SDK isn't being released yet for the Google TV (I also have one on order). Google is releasing the Android Market on the revue sometime in QI of next year, so it's got to happen by then if they want Google TV specific apps. My hope is someone will hack the system well before then so I can play freely with it. I'm pretty sure with the Sony Google TV such an SDK will never be available (but hey even Verizon changed its strips), but don't hold your breathe there. Shane On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Kumar Bibek coomar@gmail.com wrote: Well, I guess, it might need specific drivers for the set top box or TV, but we can never be sure until there's an official announcement. Everybody is waiting for that, me too :) On Oct 13, 12:42 am, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Google TV box when it comes out in a few weeks. I know that there is going to be an SDK released for the box at some point. Has anyone here heard any news about if we will be able to connect to the Logitech device via USB in order to test our applications, or if will there be some sort of separate Google hardware device or an emulator available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Google TV
Does anyone know the release date? I could have sworn that Amazon said it was October 15th, but now I just see on my order - We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.comwrote: The announcements I read was an SDK isn't being released yet for the Google TV (I also have one on order). Google is releasing the Android Market on the revue sometime in QI of next year, so it's got to happen by then if they want Google TV specific apps. My hope is someone will hack the system well before then so I can play freely with it. I'm pretty sure with the Sony Google TV such an SDK will never be available (but hey even Verizon changed its strips), but don't hold your breathe there. Shane On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Kumar Bibek coomar@gmail.comwrote: Well, I guess, it might need specific drivers for the set top box or TV, but we can never be sure until there's an official announcement. Everybody is waiting for that, me too :) On Oct 13, 12:42 am, Spiral123 cumis...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Google TV box when it comes out in a few weeks. I know that there is going to be an SDK released for the box at some point. Has anyone here heard any news about if we will be able to connect to the Logitech device via USB in order to test our applications, or if will there be some sort of separate Google hardware device or an emulator available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
I don't see why we should have a problem with the big boys getting first dibs on a new category of device (like Google TV). They have the resources to invest in experimentation and will work with the Android people in a close and time consuming manner. Do you have the resources to throw a man year at a three month project? I certainly don't. Be glad that there are companies that can and will do this as well all benefit from their testing, debugging, development and investment. Besides, what ever they publish will not be something you're going to compete with anyway so it's not going to hurt you regardless. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
Actually we do have the resources, and we do compete with them directly. I would say were highly competitive with them. And anyone who is a big player in the mobile market knows that being first to market is a huge huge advantage. Look at the current android market, a majority of the top apps on the market are the apps that were their first, or things everyone is going to use such Maps. If they take users away from us then I don't see how our company benefits from that at all. On Sep 5, 2:28 am, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see why we should have a problem with the big boys getting first dibs on a new category of device (like Google TV). They have the resources to invest in experimentation and will work with the Android people in a close and time consuming manner. Do you have the resources to throw a man year at a three month project? I certainly don't. Be glad that there are companies that can and will do this as well all benefit from their testing, debugging, development and investment. Besides, what ever they publish will not be something you're going to compete with anyway so it's not going to hurt you regardless. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
Dianne, I understand that the market can't be opened up to everyone all at once. I can only begin to imagine what a nightmare that would be to manage. I just don't understand why this can't be more open like the c2dm start was. C2DM can't have everyone on the market using it at once. But at least it was open for everyone to apply to get into the beta. On Sep 5, 10:30 am, ben benbros...@gmail.com wrote: Actually we do have the resources, and we do compete with them directly. I would say were highly competitive with them. And anyone who is a big player in the mobile market knows that being first to market is a huge huge advantage. Look at the current android market, a majority of the top apps on the market are the apps that were their first, or things everyone is going to use such Maps. If they take users away from us then I don't see how our company benefits from that at all. On Sep 5, 2:28 am, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) cor...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see why we should have a problem with the big boys getting first dibs on a new category of device (like Google TV). They have the resources to invest in experimentation and will work with the Android people in a close and time consuming manner. Do you have the resources to throw a man year at a three month project? I certainly don't. Be glad that there are companies that can and will do this as well all benefit from their testing, debugging, development and investment. Besides, what ever they publish will not be something you're going to compete with anyway so it's not going to hurt you regardless. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 7:41 AM, ben benbros...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that the market can't be opened up to everyone all at once. I can only begin to imagine what a nightmare that would be to manage. I just don't understand why this can't be more open like the c2dm start was. C2DM can't have everyone on the market using it at once. But at least it was open for everyone to apply to get into the beta. At the time the c2dm stuff was being made available, the API had been finalized and was on devices and they were just doing a slow roll-out to get the server pieces in place. It is a totally different situation than a modification of the platform with new non-standard APIs and user interactions that are still being developed. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
Special treatment. The SDK is scheduled to launch until sometime next year if I recall correctly and devices are supposed to be shipping this year. -Mike dg On Sep 4, 8:55 am, ben benbros...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen a few preview videos of Google TV pop up on the internet. I noticed they contained several apps such as GameTime and the Weather Channel. I was wondering how this is possible since there's no API yet and no announcement of one from Google. It's going to make awfully difficult for people to compete with companies such as the Weather Channel if they're being given special treatment from Google by getting the ability to launch on the device. I really hope this isn't the case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
I'm aware of how to make an app Google TV ready. I'm unhappy that certain companies are being given the ability to get their app on google tv devices before the market is available. This puts apps that have to wait for the market at a huge disadvantage. On Sep 4, 12:43 pm, Michael MacDonald googlec...@antlersoft.com wrote: On 09/04/10 08:55, ben wrote: I've seen a few preview videos of Google TV pop up on the internet. I noticed they contained several apps such as GameTime and the Weather Channel. I was wondering how this is possible since there's no API yet and no announcement of one from Google. It's going to make awfully difficult for people to compete with companies such as the Weather Channel if they're being given special treatment from Google by getting the ability to launch on the device. I really hope this isn't the case. The API is going to be very similar to the existing Android API. If you want your app to be Google TV ready, make sure it will work on large screens and without a touch interface (it must support trackballs and DPad sensibly) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Google TV applications
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:20 PM, ben benbros...@gmail.com wrote: I'm aware of how to make an app Google TV ready. I'm unhappy that certain companies are being given the ability to get their app on google tv devices before the market is available. This puts apps that have to wait for the market at a huge disadvantage. There are a lot of application and device compatibility issues to work through before opening the flood-gates to including Market on these kinds of devices. It is no different than all of the other non-compatible devices that people are doing that don't have Market because of that. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV - Developer Device Seeding
A girl can dream... On May 20, 12:11 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, cpick cp...@vmenu.com wrote: Hello, I would be interested in any Developer Device Seeding program that Google has with regards to their TV. Chris. OK - TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered deviceshttp://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV frame capture?
I know, I seem to make a habit of nagging ahead of time, just like I did with the JIT compiler in 2008 when it is was deemed to have a low priority (and there was no NDK back then to ease the pain), and the need to allow for in-memory audio synthesis and support for multiple cameras. So I rather mention it now when Google TV APIs are hopefully still very malleable rather than finding it tweaked in much later as an afterthought, or not at all. On May 21, 1:40 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Will Google allow Android applications to grab and process individual video frames of the currently selected channel in Google TV sets? That will be a fine question for 6-9 months from now, when the Google TV SDK add-on for Android (or however they package it) becomes available. Right now, I doubt anybody knows. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com Android App Developer Books:http://commonsware.com/books.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV - Developer Device Seeding
Yes 100% same here... seeding of Google Tv would be great! I can't wait to get started! -Moto On May 20, 7:29 pm, Gabriel Simões gsim...@gmail.com wrote: I wish they do a new round of the smartphone seeding for developers from other countries before this. We barely can find devices to buy here and when we do they cost many many times more than in the US. Also we can´t even mae money to buy one because we can´t make a merchant google checkout account. Google, ... we do exist, don´t you know? On 20 maio, 16:11, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, cpick cp...@vmenu.com wrote: Hello, I would be interested in any Developer Device Seeding program that Google has with regards to their TV. Chris. OK --- -- TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered deviceshttp://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Google TV - Developer Device Seeding
I wish they do a new round of the smartphone seeding for developers from other countries before this. We barely can find devices to buy here and when we do they cost many many times more than in the US. Also we can´t even mae money to buy one because we can´t make a merchant google checkout account. Google, ... we do exist, don´t you know? On 20 maio, 16:11, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:05 PM, cpick cp...@vmenu.com wrote: Hello, I would be interested in any Developer Device Seeding program that Google has with regards to their TV. Chris. OK --- -- TreKing - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered deviceshttp://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
