Re: [android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
Would be nice to have this at the instant the user is experiencing the issue as opposed to a separate FAQ. On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 4:23 AM, Doug wrote: > Best advise your users, through your dev page or a FAQ, why you can't > allow "app2sd" when it has a home screen widget or some other > constraint that prevents it. > > Ignorant one-star ratings are a fact of life, as far as I can tell. > No need to get worked up about it, but do what you can to alleviate > the problem. > > Doug > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
Best advise your users, through your dev page or a FAQ, why you can't allow "app2sd" when it has a home screen widget or some other constraint that prevents it. Ignorant one-star ratings are a fact of life, as far as I can tell. No need to get worked up about it, but do what you can to alleviate the problem. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Rich wrote: > I'm curious as to why Android has to unmount the SD card at all? Was > this a simple design choice or is it a hardware limitation with USB? > Or something else entirely? > That's how USB mass storage works. The SD card is a FAT filesystem. USB mass storage works by the desktop mounting it as a block device and managing the filesystem itself. If you have both the device and the desktop trying to manage the filesystem, you will pretty instantaneously corrupt it. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
I'm curious as to why Android has to unmount the SD card at all? Was this a simple design choice or is it a hardware limitation with USB? Or something else entirely? On Sep 24, 7:50 pm, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > It's not a marketing thing, it's a basic characteristic of the SD card not > being available all the time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Indicator Veritatis wrote: > Exactly why restricting the feature to "large applications that are > fairly self-contained" is a major marketing blunder. > It's not a marketing thing, it's a basic characteristic of the SD card not being available all the time. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
Exactly why restricting the feature to "large applications that are fairly self-contained" is a major marketing blunder. On Sep 24, 2:07 pm, Peter Sinnott wrote: > On Sep 24, 9:35 pm, Greg Donald wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Dianne Hackborn > > wrote: > > > Apps on SD is mostly intended for > > > large applications that are fairly self-contained (read games and stuff > > > like > > > that). > > > An app being small doesn't stop users from screaming "Why can't I move > > this to my sd card, 1 star!". > > > God I hate users. > > Users suck except when I'm being one. > It will only saves a few hundred kb but if it isn't a massive hassle > it is worth doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
Oh hm, true, it was actually implemented that way. That doesn't seem correct. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Peter Sinnott wrote: > "Note that the packages in this list do not receive this broadcast." > > Possibly I'm misunderstanding something but I took this to mean my app > will not receive the broadcast. > > On Sep 24, 9:28 pm, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > > See here: > http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/install-location.html > > > > Use this to find out when the app is remounted: > > > > http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html#AC... > > > > However I would generally suggest not doing this. If your app isn't > large, > > there is really not much benefit to it. Apps on SD is mostly intended > for > > large applications that are fairly self-contained (read games and stuff > like > > that). > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Peter Sinnott > wrote: > > > I am thinking of adding install to sd support to my app but it seems > > > sd and the alarms manager do not mix well. > > > So far I have tried receiving ACTION_MEDIA_MOUNTED intents so I can > > > reregister my alarms but the intent is never fired. Is there any easy > > > hook I can use to register alarms when my app becomes available after > > > the sd card is remounted? > > > > > My app isn't very large but I think users will appreciate any internal > > > memory I free up since Android phones don't seem to have very much of > > > it. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > android-developers@googlegroups.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > > > -- > > Dianne Hackborn > > Android framework engineer > > hack...@android.com > > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see > and > > answer them. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
"Note that the packages in this list do not receive this broadcast." Possibly I'm misunderstanding something but I took this to mean my app will not receive the broadcast. On Sep 24, 9:28 pm, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > See here:http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/install-location.html > > Use this to find out when the app is remounted: > > http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html#AC... > > However I would generally suggest not doing this. If your app isn't large, > there is really not much benefit to it. Apps on SD is mostly intended for > large applications that are fairly self-contained (read games and stuff like > that). > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Peter Sinnott wrote: > > I am thinking of adding install to sd support to my app but it seems > > sd and the alarms manager do not mix well. > > So far I have tried receiving ACTION_MEDIA_MOUNTED intents so I can > > reregister my alarms but the intent is never fired. Is there any easy > > hook I can use to register alarms when my app becomes available after > > the sd card is remounted? > > > My app isn't very large but I think users will appreciate any internal > > memory I free up since Android phones don't seem to have very much of > > it. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > -- > Dianne Hackborn > Android framework engineer > hack...@android.com > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and > answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Install to sd and alarms
On Sep 24, 9:35 pm, Greg Donald wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > > Apps on SD is mostly intended for > > large applications that are fairly self-contained (read games and stuff like > > that). > > An app being small doesn't stop users from screaming "Why can't I move > this to my sd card, 1 star!". > > God I hate users. > Users suck except when I'm being one. It will only saves a few hundred kb but if it isn't a massive hassle it is worth doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
