Re: [android-developers] Re: Verizon Moto droid auto update to 2.2 yesterday

2010-09-16 Thread Dianne Hackborn 
Updates delivered through Google's services (which includes the Droid, of
course Nexus One, and I believe a growing number of other devices) can be in
one of three forms:

(1) Update available, but no notification.  You need explicitly go looking
for updates to see it.
(2) Update available, notification shown to let you explicitly decide when
to install it.
(3) Update installed immediately.

I think every update that has been done on Droid was of category (2);
certainly any major OS update should be that.  Category (3) is there only
for critical security updates and I don't believe has been used yet.
 Likewise category (1) has never been used as far as I know.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Prakash Iyer  wrote:

> I have been with the Droid and Droid X on Verizon and never seen this
> behavior. They send you a notification that an upgrade is ready or if you
> are anxious (like me), you can go check for upgrades. Looks very unusual - I
> have seen them sneakily update BlackBerry so I suddenly have newer icons
> like VCast XYZ and such. But that's not an OS upgrade...
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Kostya Vasilyev wrote:
>
>>  16.09.2010 21:50, john brown пишет:
>>
>>  But I was surprised that Verizon updated my os without warning or
>>> consent. They did notify me after the fact. I am just wondering if
>>> this is common or unusual. (Maybe I am just too cautious because of my
>>> previous experiences. I would consider it quite a calamity if
>>> Microsoft updated my XP's to Vistas.)
>>>
>> FWIW, back when HTC was updating Hero from 1.5 to 2.1, the phone first
>> displayed a notification. It was even possible to specify that the update be
>> downloaded only over WiFi.
>>
>> So I guess that it's vendor / carrier dependent.
>>
>> [ waiting for either of my 2.1 phones - Moto Milestone & Samsung Galaxy S
>> - to be updated to Froyo ]
>>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Verizon Moto droid auto update to 2.2 yesterday

2010-09-16 Thread Prakash Iyer 
I have been with the Droid and Droid X on Verizon and never seen this
behavior. They send you a notification that an upgrade is ready or if you
are anxious (like me), you can go check for upgrades. Looks very unusual - I
have seen them sneakily update BlackBerry so I suddenly have newer icons
like VCast XYZ and such. But that's not an OS upgrade...

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Kostya Vasilyev  wrote:

>  16.09.2010 21:50, john brown пишет:
>
>  But I was surprised that Verizon updated my os without warning or
>> consent. They did notify me after the fact. I am just wondering if
>> this is common or unusual. (Maybe I am just too cautious because of my
>> previous experiences. I would consider it quite a calamity if
>> Microsoft updated my XP's to Vistas.)
>>
> FWIW, back when HTC was updating Hero from 1.5 to 2.1, the phone first
> displayed a notification. It was even possible to specify that the update be
> downloaded only over WiFi.
>
> So I guess that it's vendor / carrier dependent.
>
> [ waiting for either of my 2.1 phones - Moto Milestone & Samsung Galaxy S -
> to be updated to Froyo ]
>
> --
> Kostya Vasilyev -- WiFi Manager + pretty widget --
> http://kmansoft.wordpress.com
>
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Verizon Moto droid auto update to 2.2 yesterday

2010-09-16 Thread Kostya Vasilyev 

 16.09.2010 21:50, john brown пишет:

But I was surprised that Verizon updated my os without warning or
consent. They did notify me after the fact. I am just wondering if
this is common or unusual. (Maybe I am just too cautious because of my
previous experiences. I would consider it quite a calamity if
Microsoft updated my XP's to Vistas.)
FWIW, back when HTC was updating Hero from 1.5 to 2.1, the phone first 
displayed a notification. It was even possible to specify that the 
update be downloaded only over WiFi.


So I guess that it's vendor / carrier dependent.

[ waiting for either of my 2.1 phones - Moto Milestone & Samsung Galaxy 
S - to be updated to Froyo ]


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Re: [android-developers] Re: Verizon Moto droid auto update to 2.2 yesterday

2010-09-16 Thread TreKing 
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:50 PM, john brown
wrote:

> But I was surprised that Verizon updated my os without warning or consent.
> They did notify me after the fact. I am just wondering if this is common or
> unusual.
>

So your issue here is not that anything in your app broke in the upgrade,
but the fact that you were upgraded without prompt?

That's weird, I always get a prompt, though I'm on T-Mobile. Someone with
Verizon may want to confirm whether this is the way they work for some
reason. Or you could call up Verizon and complain.


> I would consider it quite a calamity if Microsoft updated my XP's to
> Vistas.
>

That would never happen since a) they're two different Operating Systems and
b) Microsoft is not going to give you a Vista upgrade for free =)

This is more like a Windows Update for XP, some of which do happen on their
own, I've noticed.

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TreKing  - Chicago
transit tracking app for Android-powered devices

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[android-developers] Re: Verizon Moto droid auto update to 2.2 yesterday

2010-09-16 Thread john brown 
Bret,

Specific case:
File myFile = android.os.Enviornment.getExternalStorageDirectory;
String strPath = myFile.toString();

The code above is the work around for an expected update that changed
the path to the external SDcard storage. This list and
developer.android.com documentation gave warning that reference to the
external storage should not be hard coded like "/sdcard/Android/
data/..." (2.2 path is something like "/mtd/Android/data/...") and
that the listed code should be used. I followed the advice and avoided
any problems.

I also am new to Android. The os, java, Eclipse, the toolkit, the
documentation, and this list are all very good and have helped me a
lot.

But I was surprised that Verizon updated my os without warning or
consent. They did notify me after the fact. I am just wondering if
this is common or unusual. (Maybe I am just too cautious because of my
previous experiences. I would consider it quite a calamity if
Microsoft updated my XP's to Vistas.)

Happy coding, John Brown

On Sep 16, 10:49 am, Bret Foreman  wrote:
> I occasionally put in some code to work around a bug in the OS. When I
> do, I always surround it with a conditional on the OS version. And
> deprecated methods seem to continue working for several more OS
> versions, giving active developers a chance to update before the old
> methods break. Have you seen or read of any specific cases that could
> not be addressed either by conditionals in the code or long support
> for deprecated methods?

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[android-developers] Re: Verizon Moto droid auto update to 2.2 yesterday

2010-09-16 Thread Bret Foreman 
I occasionally put in some code to work around a bug in the OS. When I
do, I always surround it with a conditional on the OS version. And
deprecated methods seem to continue working for several more OS
versions, giving active developers a chance to update before the old
methods break. Have you seen or read of any specific cases that could
not be addressed either by conditionals in the code or long support
for deprecated methods?

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