Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
Thanks TreKing for confirming this. In other words, if the Play Store reports that an app does not need any special permissions, it could be perfectly possible that it lists android.permission.INTERNET in its manifest? El jueves, 11 de junio de 2015, 17:53:36 (UTC-3), TreKing escribió: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Jose_GD jose.go...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Is the Internet permission listed at the time the user taps on Install in the Play Store app? Not anymore - they stopped doing that with the Google Play update that condensed and reworded the permissions. Nor it is a user-revokable permission in M (at least from what I could tell with the latest image). - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Jose_GD jose.gonzale...@gmail.com wrote: In other words, if the Play Store reports that an app does not need any special permissions, it could be perfectly possible that it lists android.permission.INTERNET in its manifest? Exactly. And just verified with a random app. Google Play says no special permission required. On the device App Install screen, permission lists full network access. This is on Lollipop - I flashed back once I realized how unstable M was - but I believe on M it wouldn't even show that. When I tested my app against M after I/O, internet was not listed as revokable. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Jose_GD jose.gonzale...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Internet permission listed at the time the user taps on Install in the Play Store app? Not anymore - they stopped doing that with the Google Play update that condensed and reworded the permissions. Nor it is a user-revokable permission in M (at least from what I could tell with the latest image). - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
I have re read what you posted here and it seems you're right. To summarize: - If you need Internet access, you must put that permission in the manifest - Since android.permission.INTERNET falls under PROTECTION_NORMAL, it will be granted - that means the user won't see a dialog box asking to give that permission at runtime Now the question that is bugging me from some time - and I say this because I think I've seen this even before Android L - is the following: *Is the Internet permission listed at the time the user taps on Install in the Play Store app?* If I recall correctly I've seen apps that access the Internet for which that permission is *not *listed in the Play Store. El martes, 9 de junio de 2015, 13:03:11 (UTC-3), just a dev escribió: This article highlights that one has to define it in manifest. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/06/06/android-m-will-never-ask-users-for-permission-to-use-the-internet-and-thats-probably-okay/ *As for the specific **android.permission.INTERNET** permission, it is still mandatory for apps that will access the Internet. If a developer were to publish an app without defining it in the Android manifest, an exception will be thrown the first time a connection attempt is made, and the app will possibly crash. This is no different than before.* Thats contrary to what you said. On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 5:35:06 AM UTC-7, Jose_GD wrote: I think I understand your question and guess I have an answer (please people correct me if I'm wrong): The INTERNET permission is a given from M release. Android assumes you will always need it. So if you put it on your manifest or not is irrelevant. Or should I say redundant? Regards, José https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Jos%C3%A9%20Gonz%C3%A1lez%20D%27Amico El martes, 9 de junio de 2015, 7:09:01 (UTC-3), just a dev escribió: I think my question is being mis-understood. Let me try to clarify. First, I am asking only about the INTERNET permission. Per the official Android documentation : https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html - *Limited Permissions Granted at Install Time:* When the user installs or updates the app, the system grants the app all permissions that the app requests that fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL. For example, alarm clock and internet permissions fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL, so they are automatically granted at install time. The system may also grant the app signature and system permissions, as described in System apps and signature permissions https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html#system-apps. The user is *not* prompted to grant any permissions at install time. Particular note that it says the system grants the app all permissions that *the app requests*. So, if the app does not have INTERNET permission in its AndroidManifest.xml, it won't be granted access to INTERNET in that case ? On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 2:27:14 AM UTC-7, luixal wrote: I think that depends if the play app asks for permissions when installing or only when a permission is needed (at the moment, when the app is running). If it works the second way, it wouldn't matter. El mar., 9 de junio de 2015 9:59, just a dev piyus...@gmail.com escribió: automatically added as-in the APK's AndroidManifest.xml will contain android.permission.INTERNET automatically ? What if the app does not want to request that permission ? On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:09:36 PM UTC-7, Jonathan S wrote: If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-d...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
I think my question is being mis-understood. Let me try to clarify. First, I am asking only about the INTERNET permission. Per the official Android documentation : https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html - *Limited Permissions Granted at Install Time:* When the user installs or updates the app, the system grants the app all permissions that the app requests that fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL. For example, alarm clock and internet permissions fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL, so they are automatically granted at install time. The system may also grant the app signature and system permissions, as described in System apps and signature permissions https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html#system-apps. The user is *not* prompted to grant any permissions at install time. Particular note that it says the system grants the app all permissions that *the app requests*. So, if the app does not have INTERNET permission in its AndroidManifest.xml, it won't be granted access to INTERNET in that case ? On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 2:27:14 AM UTC-7, luixal wrote: I think that depends if the play app asks for permissions when installing or only when a permission is needed (at the moment, when the app is running). If it works the second way, it wouldn't matter. El mar., 9 de junio de 2015 9:59, just a dev piyus...@gmail.com javascript: escribió: automatically added as-in the APK's AndroidManifest.xml will contain android.permission.INTERNET automatically ? What if the app does not want to request that permission ? On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:09:36 PM UTC-7, Jonathan S wrote: If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-d...@googlegroups.com javascript: To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
automatically added as-in the APK's AndroidManifest.xml will contain android.permission.INTERNET automatically ? What if the app does not want to request that permission ? On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:09:36 PM UTC-7, Jonathan S wrote: If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
I think that depends if the play app asks for permissions when installing or only when a permission is needed (at the moment, when the app is running). If it works the second way, it wouldn't matter. El mar., 9 de junio de 2015 9:59, just a dev piyush.h...@gmail.com escribió: automatically added as-in the APK's AndroidManifest.xml will contain android.permission.INTERNET automatically ? What if the app does not want to request that permission ? On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:09:36 PM UTC-7, Jonathan S wrote: If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
This article highlights that one has to define it in manifest. http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/06/06/android-m-will-never-ask-users-for-permission-to-use-the-internet-and-thats-probably-okay/ *As for the specific **android.permission.INTERNET** permission, it is still mandatory for apps that will access the Internet. If a developer were to publish an app without defining it in the Android manifest, an exception will be thrown the first time a connection attempt is made, and the app will possibly crash. This is no different than before.* Thats contrary to what you said. On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 5:35:06 AM UTC-7, Jose_GD wrote: I think I understand your question and guess I have an answer (please people correct me if I'm wrong): The INTERNET permission is a given from M release. Android assumes you will always need it. So if you put it on your manifest or not is irrelevant. Or should I say redundant? Regards, José https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Jos%C3%A9%20Gonz%C3%A1lez%20D%27Amico El martes, 9 de junio de 2015, 7:09:01 (UTC-3), just a dev escribió: I think my question is being mis-understood. Let me try to clarify. First, I am asking only about the INTERNET permission. Per the official Android documentation : https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html - *Limited Permissions Granted at Install Time:* When the user installs or updates the app, the system grants the app all permissions that the app requests that fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL. For example, alarm clock and internet permissions fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL, so they are automatically granted at install time. The system may also grant the app signature and system permissions, as described in System apps and signature permissions https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html#system-apps. The user is *not* prompted to grant any permissions at install time. Particular note that it says the system grants the app all permissions that *the app requests*. So, if the app does not have INTERNET permission in its AndroidManifest.xml, it won't be granted access to INTERNET in that case ? On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 2:27:14 AM UTC-7, luixal wrote: I think that depends if the play app asks for permissions when installing or only when a permission is needed (at the moment, when the app is running). If it works the second way, it wouldn't matter. El mar., 9 de junio de 2015 9:59, just a dev piyus...@gmail.com escribió: automatically added as-in the APK's AndroidManifest.xml will contain android.permission.INTERNET automatically ? What if the app does not want to request that permission ? On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:09:36 PM UTC-7, Jonathan S wrote: If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-d...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
I think I understand your question and guess I have an answer (please people correct me if I'm wrong): The INTERNET permission is a given from M release. Android assumes you will always need it. So if you put it on your manifest or not is irrelevant. Or should I say redundant? Regards, José https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Jos%C3%A9%20Gonz%C3%A1lez%20D%27Amico El martes, 9 de junio de 2015, 7:09:01 (UTC-3), just a dev escribió: I think my question is being mis-understood. Let me try to clarify. First, I am asking only about the INTERNET permission. Per the official Android documentation : https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html - *Limited Permissions Granted at Install Time:* When the user installs or updates the app, the system grants the app all permissions that the app requests that fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL. For example, alarm clock and internet permissions fall under PROTECTION_NORMAL https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PermissionInfo.html#PROTECTION_NORMAL, so they are automatically granted at install time. The system may also grant the app signature and system permissions, as described in System apps and signature permissions https://developer.android.com/preview/features/runtime-permissions.html#system-apps. The user is *not* prompted to grant any permissions at install time. Particular note that it says the system grants the app all permissions that *the app requests*. So, if the app does not have INTERNET permission in its AndroidManifest.xml, it won't be granted access to INTERNET in that case ? On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 2:27:14 AM UTC-7, luixal wrote: I think that depends if the play app asks for permissions when installing or only when a permission is needed (at the moment, when the app is running). If it works the second way, it wouldn't matter. El mar., 9 de junio de 2015 9:59, just a dev piyus...@gmail.com escribió: automatically added as-in the APK's AndroidManifest.xml will contain android.permission.INTERNET automatically ? What if the app does not want to request that permission ? On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:09:36 PM UTC-7, Jonathan S wrote: If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-d...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[android-developers] Re: internet permissions in Android M app
If you compiled against Android M, Internet will be automatically added. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:03:36 PM UTC-4, just a dev wrote: Regarding the recent announcement on Google I/O about Android M and its new permission model, can anyone clarify if every app has INTERNET permission or only the ones that define INTERNET permission exclusively in their manifest have it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
