Re: [Anima] Hold for IoT Onboarding Virtual Meeting
Sorry, but i continue to think its not just lame, its wrong. Either leave UTC+x away, or make it correct for the given date (UTC+2), or write something like CETDST. On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 08:38:35PM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Aug 8, 2019, at 20:21, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > > >> 5:00 pm - 6:00 pm Thursday, Aug 29 2019 (UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, > >> Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna > > > > And webex continues to confuse me, > > Webex is just following the great tradition of certain other widely used > calendaring tools: foist the confusion of the people that designed it on all > of its users. > > > because UTC+1 is NOT the local time > > on Aug 29 in Amsterdam/Berlin because of DST, > > The ???UTC+1??? is just a lame way of saying what the time in > Amsterdam/Berlin normally is, for people who don???t know where those weird > settlements might be. > > > so is the meeting at > > 5 PM UTC+1 or at 5 PM local time in Amsterdam/Berlin (UTC+2) ? > > Webex is trying to tell you the meeting is at 17:00 (5 pm for people who get > their time from sundials) at Amsterdam/Berlin local time, which happens to be > UTC+0200 on that date. You can always look up whether DST applies on > timeanddate.com; this is none of Webex???s business. Webex only tells you > where Amsterdam/Berlin approximately are, because you are not expected to > know that. > > > Best to wait for EU to get rid of DST to fix this webex bug *sigh*. > > Actually, that is probably true. But if some countries go for permanent DST, > Webex will then always show the wrong time and not just half the year. > > The real fix is to announce all meetings in Reykjavik time (UTC+ the > whole year). Log in at ietf.webex.com, use the menu to go to preferences, > and set the time zone to Monrovia/Reykjavik. > > Grüße, Carsten -- --- t...@cs.fau.de ___ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima
Re: [Anima] Hold for IoT Onboarding Virtual Meeting
On Aug 8, 2019, at 20:21, Toerless Eckert wrote: > >> 5:00 pm - 6:00 pm Thursday, Aug 29 2019 (UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, >> Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna > > And webex continues to confuse me, Webex is just following the great tradition of certain other widely used calendaring tools: foist the confusion of the people that designed it on all of its users. > because UTC+1 is NOT the local time > on Aug 29 in Amsterdam/Berlin because of DST, The “UTC+1” is just a lame way of saying what the time in Amsterdam/Berlin normally is, for people who don’t know where those weird settlements might be. > so is the meeting at > 5 PM UTC+1 or at 5 PM local time in Amsterdam/Berlin (UTC+2) ? Webex is trying to tell you the meeting is at 17:00 (5 pm for people who get their time from sundials) at Amsterdam/Berlin local time, which happens to be UTC+0200 on that date. You can always look up whether DST applies on timeanddate.com; this is none of Webex’s business. Webex only tells you where Amsterdam/Berlin approximately are, because you are not expected to know that. > Best to wait for EU to get rid of DST to fix this webex bug *sigh*. Actually, that is probably true. But if some countries go for permanent DST, Webex will then always show the wrong time and not just half the year. The real fix is to announce all meetings in Reykjavik time (UTC+ the whole year). Log in at ietf.webex.com, use the menu to go to preferences, and set the time zone to Monrovia/Reykjavik. Grüße, Carsten ___ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima
Re: [Anima] Hold for IoT Onboarding Virtual Meeting
THanks, Eliot Now i am trying to figure out the non-mentioned meeting time by clicking on the Webex URL: > IoT Onboarding Meeting > Hosted by Eliot Lear > 5:00 pm - 6:00 pm Thursday, Aug 29 2019 (UTC+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, > Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna And webex continues to confuse me, because UTC+1 is NOT the local time on Aug 29 in Amsterdam/Berlin because of DST, so is the meeting at 5 PM UTC+1 or at 5 PM local time in Amsterdam/Berlin (UTC+2) ? Best to wait for EU to get rid of DST to fix this webex bug *sigh*. Cheers Toerless On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 04:31:30AM +, Eliot Lear (elear) wrote: > Please hold this time for the onboarding discussion (I'm on vacation and am > sending this a bit early). This is an IoT Onboarding virtual meeting. > > Tentative Agenda: > > - OPC UA use case > - updates on drafts > - AOB > > > > > Meeting Information > > Meeting link: > https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/j.php?MTID=m16f8e0d12f6d12c3c37984c73f20efb8 > Meeting number: > 207 046 128 > Password: > c3wvus3x (23988739 from phones) > Host key: > 735404 > > More ways to join > > Join by video system > Dial 207046...@cisco.webex.com > You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number. > > Join by phone > +1-866-432-9903 Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada) > +1-408-525-6800 Call-in number (US/Canada) > Access code: 207 046 128 > > Global call-in numbers | Toll-free calling restrictions > ___ > Anima mailing list > Anima@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima ___ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima
