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CHRIS SODA wrote: jpm preface: Before the USA attack on Serbia in 1999, Joe Biden demanded on US TV :a German-Japanese style occupation of Serbia." CHEWING THE FAT WITH TERRORISTS?.....JOE BIDEN, OUT TO LUNCH IN NEW YORK Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT) From: CHRIS SODA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr Biden, thank you for taking the time to read this short note before attending to other obligations. Your name has come to my attention regarding a 12th anniversary dinner at the Sheraton Hotel sponsored by the Albanian American Civic League this coming April 28, 2002, in which you are scheduled to be the 'keynote speaker'. This anniversary, apparently, marks the twelfth year since a handful of people, sponsored by the League, testified before Congress in 1990 concerning the Serbian province of Kosovo in Yugoslavia. My first question to you, Mr Biden, is this: when US Customs in 1990 allowed that handful of people to enter your country, what 'point of origin/departure' or 'country of citizenship' do you suppose was listed on their respective passports? (I'm presuming up to this point, of course, that those handful of people were carrying authentic documents, left their own country legally and entered the US legally, and were in fact registered citizens of an actual country, with verified borders, under relevant and applicable international statutes and treaties, when they left to make this trip. If I have erred in my assumption, Mr Biden. please feel free to correct me) Since the current advertisement from the Albanian American Civic League lists those handful of people from 1990 as credible eye-witness testifiers on actual circumstances in Kosovo at that time (and since your Congress thought similarly in 1990 by making time to hear them), the only logical conclusion is to infer that for many of these 'witnesses', their 'point of origin/departure' and/or their 'country of citizenship' would have to have been Yugoslavia. And as you know, Mr Biden, the corroborated historical record is quite clear and unambiguous- the actual circumstance of Kosovo in 1990 was that it was a province of Serbia in the country of Yugoslavia. As this is in fact the case, Mr Biden, I am wondering how the Albanian American Civic League in 1990, and those handful of people who testified then before Congress, yourself, Joe DioGuardi, and others (all then and now) refer to 'Kosova' rather than Kosovo. You see, Mr Biden, that handful of travellers must ALSO have recognized the territorial sovereignty and integrity of Yugoslav borders in 1990. (if not, why were these people carrying documentation issued from a country that they do not accept or recognize?) I'm sure Mr Biden that you realize that one cannot willingly accept or recognize documentation from a country while at the same time refusing to accept or recognize what that country is composed of, especially in terms of latitudinal and longitudinal borders. Since it is universally recognized and corroborated by all persons of sound mind that the province of Kosovo was an integral part of both Serbia and Yugoslavia in 1990 (verified by many atlases, encyclopaedias and international treaties), I'm wondering why no one in Congress, the League, nor yourself and Mr DioGuardi, have questioned the usage of the term 'Kosova'. No one in the world in 1990 (nor now) can travel on documentation registered with 'Kosova' any more than someone could travel with documentation registered with "Canado' or "The United States of Americo'- or "The Third Reich' for that matter.... It is puzzling to see a reference to a fictitious political entity ("Kosova') being accepted as an actual existing place with defined borders. It is equally puzzling to believe that the US Congress in 1990 would not have asked the same questions being asked here. Perhaps you can provide an answer for me, Mr Biden. How is accepting and using documentation from a country consistent with not recognizing the exact and corroborated borders of that country?? Equally puzzling is the fact that Congressmen/women would hear testimony from people who literally 'don't know where they are coming from- or going to'. ('kosova' being listed in encyclopediae as an African tribe in Kenya, rather than an imaginary, nonexistent political or geographical entity. See here, Mr Biden, for a brief analysis by one of the world's leading linguists and historians in this regard: http://opinionleaders.htmlplanet.com/koskosova.html) Many people of similar mind have been locked up in institutions for their own, and the general public's, safety. Apparently, many more are somehow left uninstitutionalized, finding their way into the highest levels of your government, as well as finding their way into Congressional meetings and keynote speakers' lists... My second question is this: Mr Ibrahim Rugova is listed by the League as an invited guest to listen to your 'keynote speech' this coming April 28/2002. Mr Ibrahim Rugova, "....a few days before his March 31/99 Press Conference...had been reported by the KLA... to have been killed by the Serbs." (quote from http://www.tenc.net/articles/chuss/kla.html) The US State Department also in March/99 assured us that Mr. Rugova had been 'killed by the Serbs'.... (http://www.reagan.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-7.16.1999.8.htm l) Since neither anyone in the KLA in 1999 (many of them now invited to attend your 'keynote speech' this month) nor the US State Department have ever apologized for and/or retracted these statements concerning Rugova, and since Rugova's name is listed as being 'invited' to listen to your speech, Mr Biden, I'm wondering: which of the following are liars in this regard: (a) The former members of the KLA (many of whom are also on the League list of 'invited') whom yourself and Mr DioGuardi have supported for many years (b) The US State Department whom yourself and Mr DioGuardi have supported for many years (c) The Albanian American Civic League, whom yourself and Mr DioGuardi have supported for many years (d) all of the above- again, whom yourself and Mr DioGuardi have supported for many years Are there any other possible choices, Mr Biden? Have I inadvertently left any other possibilities out? Is there another word I should use rather than 'liar'?Surely, it is not even conceivable that you have freely chosen to align yourself with and actively lobby for one or more groups who are both geographically-challenged with regards to 'Kosova' AND who report murders that never happened..... This leads me to my third question, Mr Biden: The Albanian American Civic League has lauded what they call recent 'elections' under terms of an agreement signed by President Milosevic and NATO. You will be giving the keynote speech soon at a dinner which no doubt will refer to these 'elections'. What would you think of a name being listed as missing by the International Committee of the Red Cross at the update of their last 'Persons unaccounted for in connection with the crisis in Kosovo' and the SAME NAME being listed as a member of the Municipal Assembly of Kosovo under UN administration? I am speaking of one Mr Fadil Shara; according to the OSCE website, Mr Shala is a member of the AAK party in Kosovo- the AAK being administered by Mr Ramush Haradinaj, also on the Albanian American Civic League list of those scheduled to attend your NYC speech this month. (more on him later) Is the name of Fadil Shara listed with the Red Cross under 'missing' the same person listed with the temporary government of temporary UN administration located within the permanent province of Serbia?? Obviously, Mr Biden, if your name turns up freely associated with a fradulent 'election' (more on the legality of this 'election' in Kosovo later) result, this would damage your credibility beyond repair. Have you checked out this apparent coincidence of names to be certain that they are not one and the same person?? I ask this question, Mr Biden, because there is another 'coincidence' of names I would like you to comment on: the name is Agron Kryeziu. A Mr Agron Kryeziu is listed with Mr Haradinaj's AAK as a candidate in the same election that the name Fadil Shala turns up in. Interpol has a Mr Agron Kryeziu listed as wanted for questioning in a case of murder- and so do Austrian police websites. Again, the International Red Cross also has the name of Agron Kryeziu listed as 'missing' in the last update to their website on this issue. Same person all 3? Do you know, Mr Biden? Have you checked? Do you care? Just from a brief Internet search I have found 2 names associated with just one of the names on the 4/28/02 Albanian American Civic League's 'invite' list- Mr Haradinaj and his AAK- where you are scheduled to give the 'keynote speech'. You can see where people might get the wrong impression, can't you Mr Biden?? When I keep checking, I keep finding: Mr. Ramush Haradinaj, who you will have a connection (if you don't already) with as of 4/28/02, has a brother named Duat Haradinaj- and that name is on President Bush's list of 22 suspected terrorists in and around Kosovo. On this AACL invite list to hear your speech is one Mr Ali Ahmeti, listed as 'from Macedonia'. Online news agencies list Mr Ahmeti in more detail: he is also on the list of 22 drawn up by President Bush, as you can see here: (a sample of many on this from online news) (start quote) "One of the texts signed by Bush features a blacklist of 22 people, including the rebels' political representative Ali Ahmeti, his chief of staff Gezim Ostreni -- an ex-KPC officer -- former chiefs of an Albanian rebel force which fought in southern Serbia, certain Kosovo politicians and the five KPC members. The United States believes these men 'to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace in or diminishing the stability or security of any area or state in the Western Balkans region.'......" (end quote) the above quote from: http://www.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/july01/hed3664.shtml Will you be speaking at a dinner honouring 'a salute to Albanian freedom' with people on your President's black list?? Mr Biden, will you be lending your name to the 'legitimacy' of so-called 'elections' in Kosovo? Others have a different opinion on these masquerades of democracy, Mr Liden- such as objective people on the scene...... Here are just some of the comments of a monitor to these Kosovo 'free and fair elections' that you and others will be 'celebrating' in New York City: (start quote) "I was monitoring the Kosovo elections on behalf of the British Helsinki Human Rights Group with the official international observation mission of the Council of Europe. It did not take long to see why the extravagant hype had taken over from the mundane reality of the elections. At the start of the Council of Europe observer training, Lord Russell Johnstone, the President of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly, put the elections in the broader context of international intervention today. 'The international community needs to prove that intervention was benign [in Kosovo and East Timor] and will create better conditions. These elections are a proving exercise.' Lord Johnstone is probably correct to see the November elections as little more than a roving exercise for the international institutions involved in the violation of Yugoslav sovereignty and the promotion of military humanitarianism in Afghanistan and elsewhere. This would seem to be confirmed in the stated concern of the OSCE organisers to achieve an election that made the international mission appear legitimate and credible. It is highly doubtful that these elections would have been passed as free and fair had they taken place outside the international supervision of the OSCE. The election conditions, in which there was a complete absence of freedom of movement for minority communities, and many of the OSCE election regulations covering the media and political parties, failed to meet basic internationally accepted standards, such as those laid out in the OSCE 1990 Copenhagen Declaration on Democracy and Political Pluralism." (end quote) Mr Biden, yourself, Mr DioGuardi, Mr Tom Lantos, Mr Ben Gillman ( this last name is spelled with one 'l' on the copy of the AACL advertisement I have- does it refer to the former chairman of the Committee on International Relations? ) and others seem to be the relevant parties to this quote from PBS attributed to you: "...but the fact of the matter is we have trouble walking and chewing gum as a nation, it seems to me, in terms of policy..." How can you be fighting a war on terrorism while simultaneously supporting it, Mr Biden?? "Walking and chewing gum" would seem to be a hell of a lot harder than figuring out with whom you and other prominent Americans have aligned yourselves with. Who am I and millions of others to believe: a man who ranted for "a German-Japanese style occupation" of Serbia on Sunday morning televison just before the 1999 NATO murders, perpetrated with the help of and on behalf of many of those who will be in NYC to listen to your speech, OR am I to believe an international monitor with no agenda other than honest appraisals?? Mr Biden, you have made much of the fact that you called President Milosevic a "war criminal to his face" (quotations your words) in 1993. It's not surprising to me that you have no evidence to back up this claim- no approximate dates of occurence, no approximate times of occurence, no locations- no specifications of any sort to justify such defamations against one of the few real heroes to be found amongst heads of state. I challenge you here and now, Mr Biden, to put up or shut up: show the proof- show what information and evidence you used in 1993 to draw those conclusions concerning President Milosevic. Needless to say, in the US you would be sued for slander for uttering such unsubstantiated nonsense against a fellow American; I can see why you stole Neil Kinnock's words- you don't have any ability otherwise to speak rationally. Fortunately for you and your ilk, most Americans don't have the ability to reason rationally- if they did, one of the questions they might be asking is this: Why did Mr Joseph Biden, just weeks prior to the 1999 NATO atrocities, say that ¡°Any resolute military and political force used by the U.S. in Kosovo must reinforce our commitment to the Dayton peace settlement." (your words, Mr Biden, taken from records of the US Senate online: http://foreign.senate.gov/press/99/01/990128.html ) Why did you call President Milosevic a war criminal in 1993, and yet in 1999 publicly call for support of his 1995 peace initiative? Time magazine voted him Man of the Year for his peace efforts two years after you once again displayed a "Kosova"-like appreciation of the facts, Mr Biden; no doubt Time, Canada's own House of Commons, and many other watchers and participants in that Balkans peace process apparently ignored what lesser men have toiled to mis-speak....and mis-achieve. Their lauding of President Milosevic's efforts re Dayton and the honour of his character are a matter of public record- thereby proving their own treachery years later.... I'm not alone- not by a long shot- in my summations: "As recently as last October the British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, and other European Union Ministers were arguing Milosevic's case - that his actions in Kosovo were in response to the Kosovo Liberation Army's "terrorism" and its violations of United Nations Security Council resolution 1199. A senior United slates official described Milosevic as "NATO¡¯s indispensable partner in the effort to stabilise Kosovo". Pilger John; "Moral Sightseeing by the West"; Guardian Weekly; June 20th; 1999; p.3" (from http://www22.brinkster.com/harikumar/AllianceIssues/All33-pt6.htm ) While you are pondering the answers to these questions, Mr Biden, here is one more to add to my list: Bajram Rexhepi is listed as being invited by the Albanian American Civic League to NYC on 4/28/02 as well. Mr Rexhepi is also listed as 'Prime Minister of Kosova'. Let's forget for a moment that there is no such place as the Land of Oz or 'Kosova'. What would you think of a man who murdered an innocent teenager? If you haven't thought about this, Mr Biden, you might want to do so- quickly. Mr Bajram Rexhepi has been publicly cited as a party to murder 'to his face'- not in 1993, but in 1999, and none other than the former head of UNMIK, Mr.Hans Haekkerup, signed a joint communique along with the Prime Minister of Serbia, Nebosja Covic, to this effect. Take a look: http://www.realitymacedonia.org.mk/web/news_page.asp?nid=1561 Quite a following it appears you might you have here, Mr Biden....is Mr. Rexhepi guilty? I don't know, but why would you associate yourself and your country with someone who might be guilty of this? Don't you think getting to the bottom of this and other 'anomalies' is something you should do before you start addressing these people in a public forum?? Joseph Biden has spoken that 'transforming' (the proper word is 'disguising', sir) the KLA into the KPC was a 'face-saving' gesture; I am suggesting to you that your sponsorship of anti-drug usage bills in the US is appearing more and more on the surface to be a 'face-saving' measure to 'disguise' your efforts to support drug traffickers in Kosovo. I base my suppositions on the corroborated lawlessness of Kosovo both before and after UN Resolution 1244- a matter or the public record, and so is the involvement of many of those who will be in attendance in NYC this month. This might surprise you, Mr Biden, but changing the uniform of criminals does not change their criminality. I believe these typical quotes will suffice: "The Liberation Army of Kosovo (UCK) of the 1990s was created with $163 million in voluntary and involuntary contributions from the huge Albanian diaspora and $250 million from the profits of the Albanian heroin cartel that dominates Europe?s drug traffic, according to Ralf Mutschke, assistant intelligence director of Interpol." ( from: http://www.alb-net.com/pipermail/albsa-info/2001-March/001531.html. ) "France's Geopolitical Observatory of Drugs said that the KLA was a key player in the rapidly expanding drugs-for-arms business and helped transport $2 billion worth of drugs annually into Western Europe. German drug agents have estimated that $1.5 billion in drug profits is laundered annually by Kosovo smugglers, through as many as 200 private banks or currency-exchange offices." (from: The Progressive Review http://prorev.com/balkan1.htm ) And this report, Mr Biden, a year after some of your fellow attendees this weekend switched the patches from UCK to KPC: "Whatever the outcome of the polls, senior UN officials are concerned about [Mr. Ramush] Haradinaj's long-term impact on the province. One aide claims Haradinaj is now financed by two men, Naser Kelmendi and Ekrem Lluka, both of whom are suspected to be involved in smuggling. UN police reports, seen by The Observer, go further and describe Lluka as trafficking drugs and cigarettes in Greece, Kosovo, Albania and Italy." (from http://www.observer.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4061661,00.html) Mr Biden, I beleive that the Mr Ramush Haradinaj referred to here is the same Mr Ramush Haradinaj on the AACL list of invitees this wekend- you can check to make sure....this might help........: "In 1999, the KLA unit under Ramush Haradinaj's command killed 40 civilians from the Kosovo village of Glodjani and threw the bodies into the Radonjichko Lake canal." (from http://www.realitymacedonia.org.mk/web/news_page.asp?nid=253 ) There are many online reports also concerning Mr Ramush Haradinaj and obstructions of justice in Kosovo since UN Resolution 1244. Are any of these allegations founded in fact? Do you know, Mr Biden? And we have this: (even pathological Serb-hater Richard Holbrooke- who once said Serbs were 'murderous assholes'- spoke out against what you will read in the next paragraph. You might remember that 'asshole' comment, Mr Biden, because on that same show- where else but CNN?- and in the same year you called President Milosevic a 'war criminal', YOU also called Serbs, "...illiterates, degenerates, baby killers, rapists and cowards..." ) "His [ Mr. Ramush Haradinaj] men already are suspected of carrying out the Panda Cafe murders, when masked rebels opened fire in December on a restaurant the city of Pec, killing six Serbian youths. His men also are suspected of shooting at U.S. diplomatic monitors." ( ANNE THOMPSON, The Associated Press, 3-08-99 posted from: http://www.tenc.net/analysis/lovein.htm#thousands ) Mr Biden, I challenge you again to display what information you had in 1993 that led you to make THOSE comments above about 'Serbs' on CNN. Let's take those words and give them a closer inspection- here and now, Mr Biden: On 'Rape': "Since the entry of the NATO-led Kosovo Force (KFOR), rapes of Serbian, Albanian, and Roma women by ethnic Albanians, sometimes by members of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), have also been documented." (See Kosovo Human Rights Flash #50, "Violent Abuses by KLA Members," June/00) True? (one typical quote from many similar used here) Certainly it requires investigation, Mr Biden. Have you followed up on that report? What are your conclusions if you have?? On 'Degenerates': " This is a partial list of the people [in Kosovo] who were killed, mutilated, raped, seriously wounded, severely beaten or tortured, or disappeared. The list was made by comparing all data published by governments and NGO's, supplemented by communications from families, friends, and neighbors. At the end of each entry we give the initials of the sources used. This list includes people of all nationalities, including Serbs and Montenegrins (Orthodox Slavs), Roma (Gypsies, including Ashkaelia and Egyptians), Moslems (Moslem Slavs), Gorani (Moslem Slavs from Southern Kosovo), Croats ( Catholic Slavs), Turks, and MacedoniansWe will publish the complete list of Albanian victims when it becomes available.... Albanians on this list were most probably killed because of their lack of full cooperation with Albanians engaged in the armed struggle against Belgrade. That could mean that one had refused to be taxed or drafted or refused to give up his weapon--many Albanians in the countryside had rifle or pistol permits. An Albanian risked getting killed if he refused to resign his job as mailman or electric lineman, or if s/he maintained a friendship or a relationship with a Serb. An Albanian could get shot while riding a bus or riding in a Serb's car or even in his own, as some guerrillas used any passing vehicles, including buses, tractors, and horse-drawn carts, for target practice. In time of civil war, personal and patriotic motives often intermingle, and an Albanian could be killed because of personal disagreements with a relative of a guerrilla fighter. According to the Pristina daily Koha Ditore, guerrillas of the KLA tortured and killed guerrillas of a rival group, the FARK..." from: ( http://www.kosovoforum.net/site/balkan.htm ) "22 Serb civilians were massacred by the KLA who dismembered the bodies and burned them in ovens." from: http://www.balkanpeace.org/wcs/wct/wctk/wctk01.shtml On baby killers (Mr Biden, please note: the following directly concerns another so-called 'guest of honour' scheduled to attend you 'keynote speech' this weekend, specifically, one Tom Lantos....) "Bogus events which are staged are used as pretexts for war.....[such as].... the Iraqi incubator hoax alleging that Iraqi troops murdered Kuwaiti infants by taking them out of incubators. (factually, US Government with aid of Hill & Knowlton PR firm in conjunction with Tom Lantos staged and manufactured this 'propaganda event')" from: http://www.reagan.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-4.26.2001.5.html " Yesterday, [April 22/99] a 3-year-old child was killed in the bathroom of her home on the outskirts of Belgrade. A fragment of a cluster bomb ripped through two walls, missed her parents sitting in the living room, and killed the child." (one of hundreds of such reports regarding the usage of cluster bombs and/or the murder of children by Americans in Yugoslavia three years ago, Mr Biden. You asked this question once in front of the US Senate- 'Are we a nation of our word or not? Do we keep our treaties or don't we?'-and the usage of cluster bombs, KLA terrorists, along with the verified abrogations of international treaties by your friends in and out of the US Government, have given you an answer.....accidents? The planned usage and deployment of banned weapons is not accidental, Mr Biden, and neither is the targeting of cities where hundreds of thousands of innocent people live....) from: http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/kosovo/alex/042099.html On cowards: "The 'crusade for civilisation' [1999 US-led NATO assault] was the cowards' war. From heights of 15,000 feet, heroic pilots hurled hi-tech nail bombs. The unpublished list of targets hit shows a clear pattern of a deliberate campaign of terror." from: http://pilger.carlton.com/print/19253 "Who has murdered thousands of Yugoslavs with bombs dropped from a coward's height? Who has driven over a million people of all nationalities into homelessness in Serbia? Who has unleashed fascist secessionists throughout the Balkans, supporting them with arms and training, and lauding them as democrats, forcing victims to 'negotiate' with their murderers? Who has waged low-level nuclear war, turning Kosovo, focus of one 'humanitarian crusade,' into a radioactive dump?" http://www.icdsm.org/more/20th.htm Since you are apparently fond of admitting and supporting what many learned minds consider to be US culpability in crimes against humanity (specifically 1999 NATO murders in Yugoslavia) Mr Biden, such as this quote from you, "The overwhelming majority of airstrikes [1999 in Yugoslavia] when ordinance was dropped was carried out by our forces...By the way, I encourage my colleagues to read the Genocide Convention..." I would advise you to take your own advice offered here: "By the way, I encourage my colleagues to read the Genocide Convention." because learned minds and people of character have spoken thusly in reference to your state-sponsored vigilantism: "But shouting "war criminal" only emphasizes that those who live in glass houses should be careful about throwing stones.We have engaged in a flagrant military aggression, ceaselessly attacking a small country primarily to demonstrate that we run the world. The rationale that we are simply enforcing international morality, even if it were true, would not excuse the military aggression and widespread killing that it entails. It also does not lessen the culpability of the authors of this aggression. As a primary source of international law, the judgment of the Nuremberg Tribunal in the 1945-1946 case of the major Nazi war criminals is plain and clear. Our leaders often invoke and praise that judgment, but obviously have not read it...." (the late Mr Walter Rockler, former prosecutor at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trial, from: http://www.counterpunch.org/rockler.html ) And finally, on illiterate: "The press there also ridiculed the Alliance's 'media war', claiming that NATO 'propaganda leaflets' reportedly dropped over Yugoslavia are useless and 'illiterate'..." (from the United States Information Agency website) "Just like the bombings these are carried out in a cowardly way from a height and distance, breaking into television and radio frequencies and throwing illiterate leaflets from aircraft. So, too, to the Serbian people, the speech of the American political infant Madeleine Albright is ridiculous and miserable when she tries to explain to the Serbs in grotesque Serbian why she has to kill them in the name of humanity, regardless of the fact that these same inhumane Serbs once saved that same Madeleine Albright, as a child, from certain death." (B92 radio online- you know them, right Mr Biden? Radio Free Europe, which your Congress funds with taxpayers' money, used to re-broadcast the B92 signal... from: http://www.b92.net/media/repression/treason.shtml ) Good day, Mr Biden. Questions, comments?? Chris Soda --------------------------- ANTI-NATO INFORMATION LIST ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9617B Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================