Re: Messaging track
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Martin Veith martin.ve...@bmw-carit.de wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2012 11:41 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't that make more reasonable to turn Camel In Action track into Integration and maybe Messaging and Integration track ? IMO Messaging and Integration would be a good proposal for the name of this track. The talk about the Apache Etch middleware (see discussion in this thread: http://s.apache.org/Ibh) would also fit better into the Messaging and Integration then the ApacheEE track. +1 for Messaging and Integration track other than Apache Etch project we have few more projects to submit proposals under this category and it's hard to submit them under Camel track. Thanks ! Who is the responsible chair for this track so that we could start a discussion about this? Thanks, Martin On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Dejan Bosanac wrote: I just proposed a few talks on ActiveMQ under Camel in Action track. If those are accepted, I think it'd be better to have a separate Messaging track for these and other potentially related talks. We can broaden tracks out if there's interest - tracks at the moment are based on the submissions received from projects, and not all projects responded... If you think it'd be a good thing for the community to broaden it, and if the person down to be track chair for the track does to, we can make the change. Check with them, check with the communities, and let us know if the consensus is to do that! (Whether you can have a separate track depends on the submissions received. The tracks so far are provisional, and will only go ahead if they get enough good talks proposed. If you have a great, late idea for a track, and it gets enough submissions, we can accept it, but it may have to be at the expense of another track that didn't get many good submissions to it...) Nick -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
Re: Messaging track
On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: +1 for Messaging and Integration track other than Apache Etch project we have few more projects to submit proposals under this category and it's hard to submit them under Camel track. Is it really a good idea to start messing about with the tracks at this stage? The CfP has been published. There was a discussion period. Won't changing hte tracks just murky the waters? This is valuable experience: I had thought the ASF was cohesive enough that each project would have received a notice that alerted them to the fact that tracks for ACEY were being discussed. Maybe that's not the way it works. regards Steve -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/
Re: Messaging track
On 07/24/2012 10:10 AM, Steve Holden wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: +1 for Messaging and Integration track other than Apache Etch project we have few more projects to submit proposals under this category and it's hard to submit them under Camel track. Is it really a good idea to start messing about with the tracks at this stage? The CfP has been published. There was a discussion period. Won't changing hte tracks just murky the waters? +1 This is valuable experience: I had thought the ASF was cohesive enough that each project would have received a notice that alerted them to the fact that tracks for ACEY were being discussed. Maybe that's not the way it works. Well it must be enforced a bit but the track chairs are always ready to accept related talks if they looks good. ASF is huge if someone has a project he wants to speak about he must find the best track that fits to the project then a discussion with the track chairs help to integrate the talk in the track. Cheers Jean-Frederic
Re: Messaging track
The tracks page was developed from a Google spreadsheet, which I see at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgZqERZgbUeSdF9xcFdpNkp2UWNLUThxX3NYc1pZWnc#gid=0 Mark Struberg is chairman (struberg, no email address) and David Blevins is secondary (blevins, no email address). regards Steve On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:16 AM, Martin Veith wrote: Who is the responsible chair for this track so that we could start a discussion about this? -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/
Re: Messaging track
Hi! 'struberg' is me (strub...@apache.org or strub...@yahoo.de) and Davids email is dblev...@apache.org. Davids apacheId is actually dblevins and not blevins. Sorry for writing this wrong. Nick, others. How long is a 'standard day' and what is planed for the evenings? Maybe we can do the the core track from 9 - 16:00 and later add 2 EE Migration and Integration Projects talks as BoF afterwards? I fear we will only knew which tracks got submitted after the CFP is over. After that we will know how to fill the slots best. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Messaging track T he tracks page was developed from a Google spreadsheet, which I see at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgZqERZgbUeSdF9xcFdpNkp2UWNLUThxX3NYc1pZWnc#gid=0 Mark Struberg is chairman (struberg, no email address) and David Blevins is secondary (blevins, no email address). regards Steve On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:16 AM, Martin Veith wrote: Who is the responsible chair for this track so that we could start a discussion about this? -- Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: DjangoCon US Sep 6-8, Washington DC http://djangocon.us/
Re: Messaging track
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, jean-frederic clere jfcl...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/24/2012 10:10 AM, Steve Holden wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: +1 for Messaging and Integration track other than Apache Etch project we have few more projects to submit proposals under this category and it's hard to submit them under Camel track. Is it really a good idea to start messing about with the tracks at this stage? The CfP has been published. There was a discussion period. Won't changing hte tracks just murky the waters? +1 This is valuable experience: I had thought the ASF was cohesive enough that each project would have received a notice that alerted them to the fact that tracks for ACEY were being discussed. Maybe that's not the way it works. Well it must be enforced a bit but the track chairs are always ready to accept related talks if they looks good. ASF is huge if someone has a project he wants to speak about he must find the best track that fits to the project then a discussion with the track chairs help to integrate the talk in the track. Apologize for not bringing this before and probably we should not expect track changes at this moment too ... But we need to think that tracks need to attract more relevant projects and higher diversity, for example BigData or NOSQL names attracts wide audience and projects than calling HBase and related projects this is the same reason I felt to think Messaging and Integration is a good track proposal. Having said I'm not expecting to make any difficulty to ongoing CFP process. Thanks ! Cheers Jean-Frederic -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
RE: Messaging track
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Martin Veith wrote: Who is the responsible chair for this track so that we could start a discussion about this? The details of who's down as track chair for all the tracks is in the submissions spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgZqERZgbUeSdF9xcFdpNkp2UWNLUThxX3NYc1pZWnc#gid=0 If it's a track with only a primary track chair, and you're willing to be a secondary, then you've likely a much greater chance of getting the change in :) Nick
