Re: Student discount is valid for a university researcher?
IIRC the site says full time students. The rationale is to allow financially weak students to come to the conference. IMO a paid university researcher doesn't qualify while an *unpaid* PhD student does. Not speaking on behalf of any official authority here, just my own opinion. Uli On 19.09.2012 10:39, Niccolò Becchi wrote: Hi, student discount is valid for a full university researcher or a Ph.D. student. Thanks Niccolò
Re: Student discount is valid for a university researcher?
So how does this set the paid PhD student apart from $dev that is not being paid by his boss to go to ApacheCon and wants to do so on his own time? If we go down that route we consequently must give every person that is not being paid for going to ApacheCon the student rebate. The price already is substantially lower than it used to be in order to attract those whose attendance fees are not being paid for. Btw, I don't see scholarships as a paid position as these tend - as you say - to be way below average salary. Uli On 19.09.2012 12:26, Lewis John Mcgibbney wrote: Hi Niccolò et al. PhD students can also be financially weak especially if attending ApacheCon (even as a presenter) does not constitute one of the major conferences inline with your actual PhD. Before you know it such an event can set you back the best part of £1k... this is not uncommon from my own experiences. Additionally as ApacheCon is not an academic conference... but which clearly does aim to attract more students into the overall community it is unlikely student individuals will obtain substantial funding to attend. I firmly believe that full time PhD students should also be classed as full time students and therefore entitled to student rates for ApacheCon. Regardless of whether you are paid or not via a PhD funding route funding tends only to be enough to get by on and is significantly and wholly substantially below the average salary here in Scotland/UK. my 2 pennies Lewis On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@apache.org wrote: IIRC the site says full time students. The rationale is to allow financially weak students to come to the conference. IMO a paid university researcher doesn't qualify while an *unpaid* PhD student does. Not speaking on behalf of any official authority here, just my own opinion. Uli On 19.09.2012 10:39, Niccolò Becchi wrote: Hi, student discount is valid for a full university researcher or a Ph.D. student. Thanks Niccolò
Re: Student discount is valid for a university researcher?
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Ulrich Stärk wrote: So how does this set the paid PhD student apart from $dev that is not being paid by his boss to go to ApacheCon and wants to do so on his own time? The student rate is being largely funded by sponsorship from Google, and they want it targetted at students, so that's what we're doing We've also managed to secure some funding to reduce the price for committers, an announcement about that should be going out any day now. Speakers will also be able to get a free ticket if their employer isn't able to pay, we'll be notifying speakers of the details once the schedule is posted. If we go down that route we consequently must give every person that is not being paid for going to ApacheCon the student rebate. TAC exists to help people get to the conference who otherwise couldn't afford to. TAC covers your registration, hotel and flights, and so can generally ensure that money isn't an issue for people to attend. People have now missed the chance for TAC assistance for ApacheCon Europe, but I'd strongly encourage people to apply for ApacheCon North America if they're in a situation where they're not working / working but in a role that doesn't pay that much. If you'd like us to offer the student rate to everyone, please help us find a sponsor to cover it! :) Nick
