Re: Early Bird Registration is open for ApacheCon Europe!

[Nick Burch]

On 27/08/12 15:10, Ioan Eugen Stan wrote:

Same situation here. Me and Andrei are both committers and planning to
attend ApacheCon and we work for the same company.  I think receiving
one bill per person would work, but will have to double-check this
with accounting.


I believe that you can do this already. Use the normal committers 
discount code, enter your details, then on the payment details page pick 
Prepayment rather than credit card. That should then give you an 
invoice and the payment details, give that to your accounts department 
and they can pay it.


Nick

Re: Early Bird Registration is open for ApacheCon Europe!

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/08/2012 dsh wrote:

Consider this a great opportunity for give back and
networking! If the ASF TAC [1] isn't a well known institution amongst
your fellow ASF community members make a change to the better by
spreading the word.


We are, but it didn't help to have admission fees announced (with 
significant delay) to committers 12 hours before TAC applications closed 
(with unchanged deadlines), and just in the middle of an OpenOffice 
release vote. OpenOffice committers will learn from this, but 
circumstances didn't help this time.



One final word - by the attending a conference versus having a nice
vacation comparison you are really wakening your own point cause one
could question whether your intentions in this matter are true and
honest.


You are not referring to me, of course. I never wrote that or anything 
similar to that. And if by you you are referring to OpenOffice 
committers in general, I honestly don't think it is right to 
generalize. It would have been fair of you to explicitly CC the person 
who wrote that.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Early Bird Registration is open for ApacheCon Europe!

[dsh]

Well personally, considering what you have said and what already has
been said before I feel even more tempted to state it with JFK [1]:
Ask not what the open source community and specifically the ASF can do
for you - ask what you can do for the open source community and the
ASF in particular. Consider this a great opportunity for give back and
networking! If the ASF TAC [1] isn't a well known institution amongst
your fellow ASF community members make a change to the better by
spreading the word. I know other individuals from the past who really
tried very hard to attend ApacheCon events in the US and they actually
sacrificed much to achieve that goal cause they were from countries
with a developing economy. So I truly believe that German citizen
should be able to make it to ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim if considering
all of the various possibilities and options at hand even if there's a
conference fee. So IMO it's really our obligation, and not solely the
obligation of the ASF, to work together and make that happen.

One final word - by the attending a conference versus having a nice
vacation comparison you are really wakening your own point cause one
could question whether your intentions in this matter are true and
honest. That's why a emphasized that to me such a comparison is a
false comparison.

[1] http://youtu.be/sURNP5PRiMI
[2] http://www.apache.org/travel/

Cheers
Daniel

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 dsh wrote:

 3) Don't make this an AOO-specific or -only issue. If it's an issue at
 all it applies to every individual planning to attend.


 Yes, but there are several reasons that make the OpenOffice case special
 here, including:

 - The OpenOffice Conference admission fee in 2005-2010 never exceeded 10
 Euros, so community members did not expect this difference.

 - This is the first ApacheCon for most people who used to be involved with
 the old OpenOffice project, so TAC is a relatively new concept for us.

 - Apparently there are dedicated funds for travel assistance to OpenOffice
 committers.

 Regards,
   Andrea Pescetti - Apache OpenOffice PPMC.