Re: [apple-crop-2] What to do when fireblight hits tall spindle

2018-07-18 Thread Hugh Thomas
Doug, it's sort of complicated. First, you probably know the bacteria travels 
from the tip downwards. The idea is to cut well below where the infection has 
traveled. You can cut away some bark and see where the brown area meets green 
cambium. I cut pass this point - well past it. I'm guessing I would cut about 
three times the length of the affected area. For example, if the tip has died 
back 6 inches, I would remove 18 inches of that limb. This is my gut but but 
this has worked for me in the past. I don't know the extent of your knowledge, 
but you need to be careful not to spread the bacteria with your tools and 
hands. Some people dip their tools in alcohol or Clorox between cuts. I use 
Clorox wipes on my shears, making sure I use a fresh wipe almost every cut, as 
the wipe ought to be very wet. On small limbs, say a quarter of an inch or 
less, I rip the limb off. The big thing is, take action now!!  With warm 
weather you can get a lot of damage. If you burn the limbs, don't let the smoke 
drift into your orchard - something a guy told me

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> Doug- where are you located?
> What rootstock(s)?
> What cultivars?
> How old are the trees in your tall spindle?
> What was your fireblight control program at bloom? 
> any post bloom program(s)
> 
> Win
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>> On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Doug Nelson  
>> wrote:
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>> I appear to have fireblight popping up in my orchard. The ipm group tells me 
>> to prune all limbs back to central leader and not to do any spraying. 
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>> What do you do?
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Re: [apple-crop-2] What to do when fireblight hits tall spindle

2018-07-18 Thread wincowg...@centurylink.net
Doug- where are you located?
What rootstock(s)?
What cultivars?
How old are the trees in your tall spindle?
What was your fireblight control program at bloom? 
any post bloom program(s)

Win

> On Jul 18, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Doug Nelson  
> wrote:
> 
> I appear to have fireblight popping up in my orchard. The ipm group tells me 
> to prune all limbs back to central leader and not to do any spraying. 
> 
> What do you do?
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[apple-crop-2] What to do when fireblight hits tall spindle

2018-07-18 Thread Doug Nelson
I appear to have fireblight popping up in my orchard. The ipm group tells
me to prune all limbs back to central leader and not to do any spraying.

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Re: [apple-crop-2] Is this list serve dead

2018-07-18 Thread Hugh Thomas
Thanks Doug. And thanks to the other guys that answered my question about SWD. 
We don't have that pest here... yet

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> On Jul 18, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Doug Nelson  
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> I got this hugh
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>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:39 PM Hugh Thomas  wrote:
>> Doug, same here. If you get this, please reply...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Doug Nelson 
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>> > I have seen very little traffic all season. No responses to my two queries.
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Re: [apple-crop-2] Is this list serve dead

2018-07-18 Thread Doug Nelson
I got this hugh

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:39 PM Hugh Thomas  wrote:

> Doug, same here. If you get this, please reply...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Doug Nelson <
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> > I have seen very little traffic all season. No responses to my two
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Re: [apple-crop-2] Efficacy

2018-07-18 Thread Wes Cherry
Interesting possible swd insecticide:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299606/

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> On Jul 18, 2018, at 4:20 AM,   wrote:
> 
> Time of ripening may coincide with the timing and be less effective. SWD 
> enters the green fruit.
>  
> Some crops likely blackberries and raspberries are more highly attractive to 
> SWD so all sprays are less effective.
>  
> Fall harvested crops face a huge population so all sprays are less effective.
>  
> Maybe it’s one of these factors.
>  
> Leslie Huffman
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> [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of maurice tougas
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:59 PM
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> Different person producing the rating Art.
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> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:48 PM Arthur Kelly  wrote:
> Can someone explain why an insecticide might be excellent for SWD on one crop 
> but only moderate on another crop.
> 
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Re: [apple-crop-2] Efficacy

2018-07-18 Thread dbalsill
Time of ripening may coincide with the timing and be less effective. SWD enters 
the green fruit.

 

Some crops likely blackberries and raspberries are more highly attractive to 
SWD so all sprays are less effective.

 

Fall harvested crops face a huge population so all sprays are less effective.

 

Maybe it’s one of these factors.

 

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519-738-4819 (Leslie)

les...@thefruitwagon.com

 

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[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of maurice tougas
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Different person producing the rating Art.

 

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 7:48 PM Arthur Kelly  wrote:

Can someone explain why an insecticide might be excellent for SWD on one crop 
but only moderate on another crop.

Art Kelly 
Kelly Orchards 
Acton, Maine 

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Re: [apple-crop-2] Efficacy

2018-07-18 Thread Charles Davis
Thinking spotted wing somethin.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 9:56 PM Hugh Thomas  wrote:

> Art, what is SWD?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Arthur Kelly 
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> > Can someone explain why an insecticide might be excellent for SWD on one
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> > Art Kelly
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Re: [apple-crop-2] Efficacy

2018-07-18 Thread Arthur Kelly
Spotted Wing Drosophila Hugh.

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> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:59 PM, Hugh Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Art, what is SWD?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Arthur Kelly  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain why an insecticide might be excellent for SWD on one 
>> crop but only moderate on another crop.
>> 
>> Art Kelly 
>> Kelly Orchards 
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