Re: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to Apple Crop

2017-01-29 Thread Hugh Thomas
Hugh Thomas
Thomas Farms LLC
Stevensville, Mt. USA
Author, *The Biology of Human Freedom*


On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kurt,
> You are absolutely right. In fact, my wife and I had decided to sell our
> house /small farm if Clinton had won.  Just after the election, I ordered
> more trees to expand our orchard. That tree order was politically driven.
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Kurt W. Alstede <k...@alstedefarms.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Fellow Horticulturalists and Farmers,
>>
>>
>>
>> I debated whether I should opine or not…there seems to be so little
>> tolerance these days for alternative view points.  Yet, to suggest that
>> politics don’t influence our businesses and farms would be not only a
>> mistake but also a disservice to our goal of helping and supporting one
>> another who grow apples.  What I can share with you with confidence as a
>> full time family farm owner in New Jersey is that farming under the Obama
>> administration was more difficult, more costly, and much more challenging
>> than any other time in my 35 years of farming.  I have seen a steady
>> increase in the direct costs associated with regulatory compliance as well
>> as the amount of management time that I and my team spend simply making
>> sure that our business can operate….none of which helps us grow a better
>> apple for our customers.  We are only 10 days into the new administration
>> and I can tell you that I look forward to the opportunity to advance our
>> family business to the next generation in an environment that once again
>> values and rewards the entrepreneur, hard work, rural values, and the risk
>> that we all take each year as farmers.   I also look forward to a positive
>> business environment that will allow us to expand our farm, purchase and
>> preserve more farmland, employ more people, and stimulate the local economy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Simply stated….I am very excited!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes for a successful growing season and may God Bless the United
>> States of America.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Kurt W. Alstede*
>>
>> General Manager,
>>
>> Alstede Farms, LLC
>>
>> P.O. Box 278
>>
>> 1 Alstede Farms Lane,
>>
>> Chester, New Jersey 07930
>>
>> United States of America
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel:  908-879-7189 <(908)%20879-7189>
>>
>> Fax: 908-879-7815 <(908)%20879-7815>
>>
>> www.alstedefarms.com
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CFB1AF.83320400][image: Picture1]
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>>
>>
>> *From:* apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Vincent Philion
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
>> *To:* Apple-Crop discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to Apple Crop
>>
>>
>>
>> Please keep "alternative facts" and politics out of this thread.
>>
>> Vincent Philion, agr., M.Sc.
>>
>>
>> Le 29 janv. 2017 à 16:06, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> The intended effect was to promote the idea that the right wing extremist
>> Donald Trump was trying to suppress opposition voices. Contrast this to the
>> fact that for years the fascist left has threatened any scientist that
>> questions global warming. The death penalty has been called for many times.
>> By the way, the idea:  “97% of scientists agree…” is just more fake news.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Daniel Cooley <dcoo...@umass.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Since journalists are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, we
>> probably should all just stop paying attention to the news, and let the new
>> administration get on with the important business of making America great
>> again. No offense Con, but America first!
>>
>>
>>
>> But if you’re not inclined to stop paying attention, it turns out the
>> USDA kerfuffle came about from an internal decision, not the White House.
>> It strikes me as typical of ARS culture.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/firestorm-over-suppos
>> ed-gag-order-agricultural-scientists-was-self-inflicted-wound
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to Apple Crop

2017-01-24 Thread kuffelcreek
Pi r squared.  Ha! You can't fool me; cornbread's square, pies are round!

(In memory of Andy Griffith)

Kevin Hauser
Kuffel Creek Apple Nursery

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:05:13 +, "Con.Traas" <con.tr...@ul.ie> wrote:
> Hi Art (and everyone),
> Yes, I was a much more regular contributor in the past. But then, in
> general, there was a lot more discussion going on the forum, which
> stimulated more responses.
> I am happy to confirm I am alive and well, and that the apple industry
in
> Ireland (small though it is) is doing reasonably well.
> In 2016 there was an outstanding crop, despite the weather being only
> slightly warmer than usual. But there was moisture whenever it was
needed,
> and everything just seemed to go right, with an exceptional autumn for
> harvest, with mostly dry and mild weather.
> The big crop has led to its own problems with culinary apples, which are
> oversupplied, and the processors also took less than usual.
> In a few weeks the growers will be giving away free "apples for tarts"
> apples prior to World Pi day (as in the number 3.14 - ratio of diameter
to
> circumference of a circle), with the catch that whoever gets the free
> apples and makes the pie, must in turn give that away free. A sort of
> pay-it-forward idea that we hope gets a bit of traction.
> Con
> 
> PS Thanks to Dave for the rather comforting and (as usual) comprehensive
> response.
> 
> 
> 
> From: kellyorchards [kellyorcha...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 24 January 2017 13:40
> To: Con.Traas; apple-crop@virtualorchard.com
> Subject: RE: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to Apple Crop
> 
> I hadn't heard from you in a while and was worried.  You used to be a
> regular contributor.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Art Kelly
> Kelly Orchards
> Acton, Maine
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: "Con.Traas" <con.tr...@ul.ie>
> Date: 01/24/2017 8:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.com
> Subject: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to Apple Crop
> 
> 
> Hello to all from Ireland.
> We're having a very mild winter but trees still dormant at the moment,
and
> at least pruning is progressing well.
> I note from the article below that the ability of public sector staff to
> contribute via a group such as this may become limited.
> However I would be very hopeful that all growers make good on any
deficit
> that might arise. I look forward to many years of happy discussion of
all
> things apple.
> Con Traas
> The Apple Farm
> Ireland
> 
> 
>
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