[arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
Today I updated my desktop which installed latest nvidia - version 260.19.12. When I tried startx, screen went black and the led of the power button of the monitor kept flashing.After I downgraded the nvidia, everything went allright. To be absolutely sure that it is not caused by anything in my system, i installed arch again on to a new partition and installed the packages. Same results. I searched the bug tracker but found nothing.Is anybody experiencing the same thing ? My system: Vga:VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
Re: [arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
On 10/25/2010 04:40 PM, Partha Chowdhury wrote: Today I updated my desktop which installed latest nvidia - version 260.19.12. When I tried startx, screen went black and the led of the power button of the monitor kept flashing.After I downgraded the nvidia, everything went allright. To be absolutely sure that it is not caused by anything in my system, i installed arch again on to a new partition and installed the packages. Same results. I searched the bug tracker but found nothing.Is anybody experiencing the same thing ? My system: Vga:VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1) congrats, you found a bug in nvidia driver. I've saw a lot of users having this issue on nvidia forum but not a single reply from nvidia devs. take a look yourself: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 -- Ionuț
Re: [arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
At Montag, 25. Oktober 2010 15:51 Ionuț Bîru wrote: congrats, you found a bug in nvidia driver. I've saw a lot of users having this issue on nvidia forum but not a single reply from nvidia devs. I don't have this problem so saying it is only a bug of the driver sounds too easy for me. Perhaps it would be better if people with this problem compare their configurations. take a look yourself: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 And where is one of this reports? Sorry, but posting no url would be better in this case.-) See you, Attila
[arch-general] Strange Xorg issue - no init of NV 8800GT - reboot - late init?
Guys, I don't know if this is software or hardware related, but after a shutdown (power outage that exhausted the UPS), I boot my box and I get no display at all. The nvidia platinum SLI board has an onboard vga controller that is turned off in the bios and the box uses an nv8800gt for the display. After ssh'ing into the box I looked at the pci bus with lspci: snip 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C77 [nForce 750a SLI] (rev a2) 05:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03) 05:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03) There was no 8800gt shown and the vga controller was shown as a nForce 750a SLI (huh?). Also, the timestamp looks huge (maybe fsck ran?) Checking the Xorg.0.log showed the 'No display devices found' error: [ 1795.823] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 [ 1795.823] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 [ 1795.823] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor [ 1795.823] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) [ 1795.823] (**) NVIDIA(0): Option Coolbits 1 [ 1795.823] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration [ 1795.823] (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is [ 1795.823] (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled. [ 1795.977] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU nForce 750a SLI (C77) at PCI:2:0:0 (GPU-0) [ 1795.978] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes [ 1795.978] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 62.77.2f.00.05 [ 1795.978] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU [ 1795.978] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on nForce 750a SLI at PCI:2:0:0 [ 1795.978] (--) NVIDIA(0): none [ 1795.979] (EE) NVIDIA(0): No display devices found for this X screen. [ 1796.111] (II) UnloadModule: nvidia [ 1796.111] (II) UnloadModule: wfb [ 1796.111] (II) UnloadModule: fb [ 1796.111] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. [ 1796.111] Fatal server error: [ 1796.111] no screens found [ 1796.111] Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. After shutdown (power-off) and reboot, there was no bios screen and no boot loader display, but then after kdm init, the display appeared. Checking with lspci, the 8800GT magically appeared: snip 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GT] (rev a2) 04:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03) 04:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller (rev 03) Checking the Xorg.0.log after the display was up. all looks OK: snip [23.539] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8800 GT (G92) at PCI:2:0:0 (GPU-0) [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 62.92.24.00.01 [23.539] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 8X [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 8800 GT at PCI:2:0:0 [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): Acer V223W (DFP-0) [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): Acer V223W (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock [23.539] (--) NVIDIA(0): Acer V223W (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link TMDS [23.698] (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-0 [23.698] (==) NVIDIA(0): [23.698] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode nvidia-auto-select [23.698] (==) NVIDIA(0): will be used as the requested mode. What I don't know is whether this can be kernel/new xorg related or whether this looks more like a hardware issue? Given the lack of bios/grub display, it sounds like it was still looking at the wrong controller until kdm start. I don't see how the system could change its mind mid-stream and fix itself, but the display/card is working fine now. Anybody have any thoughts on this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
On 10/25/2010 07:04 PM, Attila wrote: At Montag, 25. Oktober 2010 15:51 Ionuț Bîru wrote: congrats, you found a bug in nvidia driver. I've saw a lot of users having this issue on nvidia forum but not a single reply from nvidia devs. I don't have this problem so saying it is only a bug of the driver sounds too easy for me. Perhaps it would be better if people with this problem compare their configurations. maybe you misunderstood me or i suck at explanations. Not all cards are affected and even the same chipsets. In some situations, no idea what are those, the new nvidia driver doesn't work. for example there is one guy with sony vaio laptop in the forum which has 8400 GT and has black screen. Others that have 84000 GT doesn't have this issue. take a look yourself: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 And where is one of this reports? Sorry, but posting no url would be better in this case.-) i'm too lazy to search for black screen now but is not on the front page as this issue was reported since the beta -- Ionuț
Re: [arch-general] Strange Xorg issue - no init of NV 8800GT - reboot - late init?
On 25-10-2010 21:19, David C. Rankin wrote: What I don't know is whether this can be kernel/new xorg related or whether this looks more like a hardware issue? Given the lack of bios/grub display, it sounds like it was still looking at the wrong controller until kdm start. I don't see how the system could change its mind mid-stream and fix itself, but the display/card is working fine now. Anybody have any thoughts on this? Try to get into the bios, if you see no image try to plug the display on both outputs (not at the same time of course :p ) and see if you can get any image. If it works then for some reason the display priority may have changed in the bios, and I guess you can correct it there. No other ideas here except that the hardware might have disliked that outage, you really should look into getting the system to power off properly when the UPS in low on battery. -- Mauro Santos
Re: [arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
At Montag, 25. Oktober 2010 22:24 Ionuț Bîru wrote: maybe you misunderstood me or i suck at explanations. Not all cards are affected and even the same chipsets. In some situations, no idea what are those, the new nvidia driver doesn't work. for example there is one guy with sony vaio laptop in the forum which has 8400 GT and has black screen. Others that have 84000 GT doesn't have this issue Okay, if this is the hardware than the only thing what i can help is to say that this cards makes no problem for me: 6200, 7600GS, G210 and GT220. But this is not good because the 8400 is a nice card und should be supported from nvidia in a better way. i'm too lazy to search for black screen now but is not on the front page as this issue was reported since the beta I was hoping you have the link because for using the search function of the nv forum i even have to search my glasses.-) See you, Attila
Re: [arch-general] system time stucks in a loop
On 10/24/2010 05:06 AM, János Illés wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 14:54, Thomas Jost schno...@schnouki.net wrote: Hope this helps. I removed openntpd completely and disabled time sync. The vm still freezes eventually. Also, I cannot set clocksource to anything else than acpi_pm Let's go back to brainstorming mode, i welcome any new ideas. OK, Let's start over. I haven't a clue about your clocksource loop, but I would suggest rebuilding virtualbox using: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9753 Of all the different packages, I have had great luck with this one. Just download the tarball and untar/ungzip with: tar -xzf virtualbox_bin.tar.gz cd virtualbox_bin/ makepkg -s sudo pacman -U virtualbox_bin-3.2.10-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz Then test again. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] system time stucks in a loop
On 10/25/10 18:18, David C. Rankin wrote: On 10/24/2010 05:06 AM, János Illés wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 14:54, Thomas Jostschno...@schnouki.net wrote: Hope this helps. I removed openntpd completely and disabled time sync. The vm still freezes eventually. Also, I cannot set clocksource to anything else than acpi_pm Let's go back to brainstorming mode, i welcome any new ideas. OK, Let's start over. I haven't a clue about your clocksource loop, but I would suggest rebuilding virtualbox using: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9753 Of all the different packages, I have had great luck with this one. Just download the tarball and untar/ungzip with: tar -xzf virtualbox_bin.tar.gz cd virtualbox_bin/ makepkg -s sudo pacman -U virtualbox_bin-3.2.10-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz Then test again. That might help but if it where me I would build it using A clean chroot The instructions to do that is here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot That way you would not get anything you didn't bargain for ;)
Re: [arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 15:24, Ionuț Bîru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: On 10/25/2010 07:04 PM, Attila wrote: At Montag, 25. Oktober 2010 15:51 Ionuț Bîru wrote: congrats, you found a bug in nvidia driver. I've saw a lot of users having this issue on nvidia forum but not a single reply from nvidia devs. I don't have this problem so saying it is only a bug of the driver sounds too easy for me. Perhaps it would be better if people with this problem compare their configurations. maybe you misunderstood me or i suck at explanations. Not all cards are affected and even the same chipsets. In some situations, no idea what are those, the new nvidia driver doesn't work. for example there is one guy with sony vaio laptop in the forum which has 8400 GT and has black screen. Others that have 84000 GT doesn't have this issue. take a look yourself: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 And where is one of this reports? Sorry, but posting no url would be better in this case.-) i'm too lazy to search for black screen now but is not on the front page as this issue was reported since the beta -- Ionuț I don't know if this is related or not. I'm not having any problems with desktop cards and the latest drivers, but I've had problems with integrated graphics on both laptops and desktops. Seems some laptop manufacturers tweak the video drivers and only their drivers will work you can't install the drivers from nVidia or ATI. I've also had integrated video on a desktop board, IICR it was an nforce4, that the nVidia drivers (the recommended drivers) wouldn't recognize at all. After 3 days of trying to correct the problem, I finally gave up on the integrated graphics and purchased and add on card. I hope this isn't too far off topic, but thought it might give you somewhere else to look for the problem. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
Re: [arch-general] system time stucks in a loop
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 17:49, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: On 10/25/10 18:18, David C. Rankin wrote: On 10/24/2010 05:06 AM, János Illés wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 14:54, Thomas Jostschno...@schnouki.net wrote: Hope this helps. I removed openntpd completely and disabled time sync. The vm still freezes eventually. Also, I cannot set clocksource to anything else than acpi_pm Let's go back to brainstorming mode, i welcome any new ideas. OK, Let's start over. I haven't a clue about your clocksource loop, but I would suggest rebuilding virtualbox using: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9753 Of all the different packages, I have had great luck with this one. Just download the tarball and untar/ungzip with: tar -xzf virtualbox_bin.tar.gz cd virtualbox_bin/ makepkg -s sudo pacman -U virtualbox_bin-3.2.10-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz Then test again. That might help but if it where me I would build it using A clean chroot The instructions to do that is here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Building_in_a_Clean_Chroot That way you would not get anything you didn't bargain for ;) Another suggestion would be to download the puel version from Oracle/Sun (http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html) and install it. I use it on two boxes and have not experienced any problems. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
Re: [arch-general] system time stucks in a loop
Am Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:19:45 -0500 schrieb Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net: Another suggestion would be to download the puel version from Oracle/Sun (http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html) and install it. That's what the AUR package virtualbox_bin is doing. Heiko
Re: [arch-general] system time stucks in a loop
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 18:29, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:19:45 -0500 schrieb Myra Nelson myra.nel...@hughes.net: Another suggestion would be to download the puel version from Oracle/Sun (http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html) and install it. That's what the AUR package virtualbox_bin is doing. Heiko Sorry bout that, I should have read the pkgbuild first. -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
Re: [arch-general] Screen goes black after installing latest nvidia driver
Thank you everyone for your replies. From last night, I have tried different versions of kernel + Nvidia driver to pinpoint the bug, and the culprit is the whole 260.x.x series drivers. Every driver from 180,195 and 256 series works fine on any kernel version. but the 260.19.04,260.19.06,260.19.12 does not work with any combination.Guess the 260 series does not like the 8400GS card (:. On searching the nvidia forum, i see many regressions with 260 series drivers.I use the nvidia solely for VDPAU otherwise i can use the intregated card with nv or nouveau and kick the last closed-source out of my box .
Re: [arch-general] Python 3 Rationale?
You know what you could do is something like rm /usr/bin/python echo /usr/bin/python HERE #! /bin/bash [ -z $_PYTHON ] _PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2 $_PYTHON $@ HERE chmod 755 /usr/bin/python if the transition is bothering you too much. Then when things calm down a little you just delete that file and put the symlink back. Kaiting.
