Re: [arch-general] Dropping Oracle OpenOffice
I switched to LibreOffice as soon as it hit the repos and I don't miss a thing. Also, I don't think we should worry too much about users coming from Windows. Really, if they're here, they're not afraid of change. Drop it now!
Re: [arch-general] Dropping Oracle OpenOffice
On Mar 10, 2011 10:04am, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti vitorei...@gmail.com wrote: I switched to LibreOffice as soon as it hit the repos and I don't miss a thing. Also, I don't think we should worry too much about users coming from Windows. Really, if they're here, they're not afraid of change. Drop it now! I agree with Vitor. Switching to Linux is a big change and if they are willing to change their operating system for the better, changing their office suite shouldn't be a big deal either.
Re: [arch-general] Dropping Oracle OpenOffice
Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Dedicated to the relatively-closed and more-constrained version of whats in the repos. Sure =) The distros have jumped fast, but I'm wondering about the Windows users of openoffice, seems to me none of them would try libreoffice just because its there (and frankly the politics of the thing just doesn't cut it with most users in that camp). Idle thoughts... Their problem is that they don't have an upgrade path. Distros can (and should) show libreoffice-X.Y as updates to openoffice X.(Y-1) so the update can go smoothly. But Windows users don't have that. I installed libreoffice on windows today at work. OpenOffice had warned me about a new version and only after it had downloaded and extracted everything and it opened the installer splash screen with the Oracle logo did I notice. I cancelled the install and went to libreoffice.org, but most users won't be aware of the issue and so will continue using the Oracle version.
Re: [arch-general] Build in clean chroot
Baho Utot wrote: This gives me an error /build/PKGBUILD: line 25: cd: /trinity.source/kdepim: Too many levels of symbolic links I want to symlink the svn repo to inside the chroot so when makechrootpkg -c -r chrootdir creates the clean copy it doesn't have to copy the entire svn source code to the clean copy, as it is almost 2G is size. Anyone know of a way to get around this? symlinks can't go out of chroots. So /home+build/../trinity.source inside the chroot is /../trinity.source and the parent of root being root, resolves to /trinity.source which is /home+build/trinity.source. In summary: the symlink points to itself. The solution is to use mount --bind /trinity.source /home+build/trinity.source
Re: [arch-general] Build in clean chroot
On 03/10/2011 07:38 PM, Linas wrote: Baho Utot wrote: This gives me an error /build/PKGBUILD: line 25: cd: /trinity.source/kdepim: Too many levels of symbolic links I want to symlink the svn repo to inside the chroot so when makechrootpkg -c -rchrootdir creates the clean copy it doesn't have to copy the entire svn source code to the clean copy, as it is almost 2G is size. Anyone know of a way to get around this? symlinks can't go out of chroots. So /home+build/../trinity.source inside the chroot is /../trinity.source and the parent of root being root, resolves to /trinity.source which is /home+build/trinity.source. In summary: the symlink points to itself. The solution is to use mount --bind /trinity.source /home+build/trinity.source I will try that Thank you
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.37.3-1
Tobias Powalowski wrote: Hi guys, - bump to latest version greetings tpowa X still broken :(
Re: [arch-general] Dropping Oracle OpenOffice
On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:33 +0100, Linas wrote: Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Dedicated to the relatively-closed and more-constrained version of whats in the repos. Sure =) The distros have jumped fast, but I'm wondering about the Windows users of openoffice, seems to me none of them would try libreoffice just because its there (and frankly the politics of the thing just doesn't cut it with most users in that camp). Idle thoughts... Their problem is that they don't have an upgrade path. Distros can (and should) show libreoffice-X.Y as updates to openoffice X.(Y-1) so the update can go smoothly. But Windows users don't have that. I installed libreoffice on windows today at work. OpenOffice had warned me about a new version and only after it had downloaded and extracted everything and it opened the installer splash screen with the Oracle logo did I notice. I cancelled the install and went to libreoffice.org, but most users won't be aware of the issue and so will continue using the Oracle version. The Oracle version continues to exist, and its highly unlikely oracle would generously offer their customers an easy update path to libreoffice. The distros are not under Oracle's control, so Linux users get what the distros choose to give them. Unfortunately, this probably means that a few years from now libreoffice will perhaps be very linux-centric.
Re: [arch-general] [translation] Let's start the work for 3.5.0 release
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: We're using transifex this time around, and going cold turkey, so I won't even look at translations submitted here. http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/tree/doc/translation-help.txt The transifex help and the tx client will likely be your friend here. `tx pull` and `tx push -t -l en_GB` were two commands I used to try this whole system out. As I mentioned earlier, you will need transifex-client-hg (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45787) from the AUR. Questions- send them to the list. Translations- please do not. OK- we have most of them in, I'm going to set a deadline of this Sunday (March 13) so we can release early next week. Here is the status: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/archlinux-pacman/r/3-5-0/ -Dan
