Re: [arch-general] local repository

2011-12-30 Thread Baho Utot


On Thursday 29 December 2011 11:35:52 pm Calvin Morrison wrote:
 On 29 December 2011 20:55, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
  On Thursday 29 December 2011 08:45:11 pm Karol Blazewicz wrote:
   On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com
 
  wrote:
http:///trinity.bildanet.com/i686
  
   Have you tried with 2 '/' (slashes) after 'http:' instead of 3?
 
  No I have not.
 
  I tried that and it now works
 
  Thank you

 you should make those public :-)

I have no means to make them available.
This server is on a dynamic ip and my up stream to the internet is very 
limited as this is a residential connection to the internet.



Re: [arch-general] Using the new 'extramodules' directory in linux-* packages

2011-12-30 Thread Andrzej Giniewicz
This is something I wanted to ask too, cause I'm dealing with
wacom-drivers package - and there I have an updated version of
standard module. For now I use

/lib/modules/3.1.*-*-ARCH/updates

for this purpose and it works, but there is no

/lib/modules/updates-3.1/

so users need to rebuild after every minor version. I though, that
since in depmod.d there is file with

search updates extramodules built-in

I would be able to use extramodules-3.1 to override default kernel
module, but it turned out it is not enough:

[giniu@raven3 3.1.5-1-ARCH]$ pwd
/lib/modules/3.1.5-1-ARCH
[giniu@raven3 3.1.5-1-ARCH]$ find extramodules/
extramodules/
extramodules/wacom.ko
extramodules/nvidia.ko.gz
extramodules/version
extramodules/wacom_w8001.ko
[giniu@raven3 3.1.5-1-ARCH]$ modinfo wacom | head -n 1
filename:
/lib/modules/3.1.5-1-ARCH/kernel/drivers/input/tablet/wacom.ko.gz

as you see, it still uses default one (I performed depmod -a). So, is
there any way to not only place new modules without requiring users to
rebuild every time, but also update modules that way? I don't know if
I missed something obvious, or something... anyone got it working?

Andrzej.


 /lib/modules/3.1.*-*-ARCH/extramodules rather than in
 /lib/modules/extramodules-3.1.*-*-ARCH

 I would prefer the second one, because the first one is a symlink to the
 second one. So I guess the official path is the second one. And the
 second patch isn't changed with every minor kernel update.


[arch-general] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Don Juan
Being new to Arch and finally getting a working system minus the ability 
to always be able to cleanly reboot and shutdown every time. I started 
reading about securing my install and ran across the Security wiki on 
archlinux.org and it states that you can not use the EDITOR envvar.


But in reality you can use this and it allows you the ability to run 
nano like it says visudo does not allow you to do. Is it just a bug in 
the current release of visudo, am I not understanding the information in 
the Wiki properly or? Wouldn't this open up a way larger issue?


Quote: By default, visudo doesn’t follow EDITOR envvar. Also it’s 
regarded as severe security risk since everything can be used as EDITOR 
(hello, rootkits!). The best practice is to add the following line to 
//etc/sudoers/ (remember to put full path to your favourite editor): 


I have not added anything to my file other than allowing the wheel group 
sudo rights. Not trying to start any conspiracy here or anything just 
curious, could it be a fubared install on my end? I can do it from the 
root user and by issuing sudo EDITOR=nano visudo.


Thank you



My Source:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Security


Re: [arch-general] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Don Juan donjuans...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have not added anything to my file other than allowing the wheel group
 sudo rights. Not trying to start any conspiracy here or anything just
 curious, could it be a fubared install on my end? I can do it from the root
 user and by issuing sudo EDITOR=nano visudo.

Arch builds sudo with '--with-env-editor' so you can use the EDITOR
var like you did, it's not a bug.
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/sudo


Re: [arch-general] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Don Juan

On 12/30/2011 01:09 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Don Juandonjuans...@gmail.com  wrote:

I have not added anything to my file other than allowing the wheel group
sudo rights. Not trying to start any conspiracy here or anything just
curious, could it be a fubared install on my end? I can do it from the root
user and by issuing sudo EDITOR=nano visudo.

Arch builds sudo with '--with-env-editor' so you can use the EDITOR
var like you did, it's not a bug.
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/sudo
but even as root user I can do it, so wouldn't it not do it under root 
since sudo is not involved? Thank you for the link though, still trying 
to learn my way around.


Re: [arch-general] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Don Juan donjuans...@gmail.com wrote:
 but even as root user I can do it, so wouldn't it not do it under root since
 sudo is not involved?

Not sure what you mean here.

Have you tried restricting the use of EDITOR w/o recompiling sudo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sudo#Using_visudo

# Defaults specification
# Reset environment by default
Defaults  env_reset
# Set default EDITOR to vim, and do not allow visudo to use EDITOR/VISUAL.
Defaults  editor=/usr/bin/vim, !env_editor


Re: [arch-general] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Don Juan

On 12/30/2011 01:18 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Don Juandonjuans...@gmail.com  wrote:

but even as root user I can do it, so wouldn't it not do it under root since
sudo is not involved?

Not sure what you mean here.

Have you tried restricting the use of EDITOR w/o recompiling sudo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sudo#Using_visudo

# Defaults specification
# Reset environment by default
Defaults  env_reset
# Set default EDITOR to vim, and do not allow visudo to use EDITOR/VISUAL.
Defaults  editor=/usr/bin/vim, !env_editor
I just meant if I log in as root I can run the envvar. Its not issue to 
me I am just the type to try what things say its not able to do. So I 
first tried as a normal user, hence the need for sudo, I understand why 
sudo and running the command works (thanks to your link). But if you are 
USER root you don't need to run sudo, so hence wouldn't running 
EDITOR=nano visudo not work if you are a root user, since sudo is not 
involved?


Re: [arch-general] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Don Juan donjuans...@gmail.com wrote:
 But if you are USER root you don't need to run sudo, so hence wouldn't 
 running EDITOR=nano visudo
 not work if you are a root user, since sudo is not involved?

visudo uses the EDITOR / VISUAL vars, see the man page:

ENVIRONMENT
   The following environment variables may be consulted depending on the
   value of the editor and env_editor sudoers variables:
   VISUAL  Invoked by visudo as the editor to use
   EDITOR  Used by visudo if VISUAL is not set

See, these variables are used *by visudo*. As you said, sudo is needed
only for the user, otherwise I get 'visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission
denied'.


Re: [arch-general] [Solved] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Don Juan

On 12/30/2011 01:49 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote:

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Don Juandonjuans...@gmail.com  wrote:

But if you are USER root you don't need to run sudo, so hence wouldn't running 
EDITOR=nano visudo
not work if you are a root user, since sudo is not involved?

visudo uses the EDITOR / VISUAL vars, see the man page:

ENVIRONMENT
The following environment variables may be consulted depending on the
value of the editor and env_editor sudoers variables:
VISUAL  Invoked by visudo as the editor to use
EDITOR  Used by visudo if VISUAL is not set

See, these variables are used *by visudo*. As you said, sudo is needed
only for the user, otherwise I get 'visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission
denied'.
Thanks I get it now. Sorry for the noise, appreciate your time and 
effort. :)


Re: [arch-general] [Solved] Question about visudo and info in the Wiki

2011-12-30 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Don Juan donjuans...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks I get it now. Sorry for the noise, appreciate your time and effort.
 :)

No problem, glad I could help.
Your question does not qualify as noise :-)