Re: [arch-general] Parallels 7 Tools

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Wednesday 04 Apr 2012 21:07:03 Joshua Poehls wrote:
 Wow. I'm afraid that's way out of my league. :\

Not wanting to state the obvious, but it looks like it's going to be painful 
to get Arch working smoothly with Parallels.  Have you considered using 
VirtualBox instead?  Support is excellent, and you can probably export the VM 
from Parallels into VirtualBox without too much hassle.

Paul


Re: [arch-general] Parallels 7 Tools

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Poehls
Yeah. I thought of that, just didn't want to if I didn't have to. I
think I'll do that though. VirtualBox here I come.

Thanks,

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Joshua Poehls

On Apr 5, 2012, at 3:19 AM, Paul Gideon Dann pdgid...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 04 Apr 2012 21:07:03 Joshua Poehls wrote:
 Wow. I'm afraid that's way out of my league. :\

 Not wanting to state the obvious, but it looks like it's going to be painful
 to get Arch working smoothly with Parallels.  Have you considered using
 VirtualBox instead?  Support is excellent, and you can probably export the VM
 from Parallels into VirtualBox without too much hassle.

 Paul


[arch-general] avahi problem

2012-04-05 Thread Alper Kanat
Hey There,

I've installed an Arch Linux server in our office for serving files over
the network via Bonjour/avahi. All computers are connected to an ADSL modem
via wireless. Only the server is connected via LAN. When I start the
server, I can ping it:

--- CMD OUTPUT
---

$ ping office.local
PING office.local (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.080 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.671 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.979 ms
^C
--- office.local ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.979/1.243/1.671/0.305 ms

$ ping 192.168.1.107
PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.194 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.229 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.194/1.212/1.229/0.017 ms

After a few minutes however I can't ping it using the .local address:

*$ ping office.local*
*ping: cannot resolve office.local: Unknown host*

$ ping 192.168.1.107
PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.375 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.562 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.375/1.469/1.562/0.094 ms

--- CMD OUTPUT
---

If I restart avahi-daemon, we can ping office.local for another few
minutes. Any ideas?

---
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


Re: [arch-general] avahi problem

2012-04-05 Thread Jochen Maes (Gcool)
Have you configured your /etc/nsswitch.conf (server side) as suggested
on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Avahi#Hostname_resolution ?

2012/4/5, Alper Kanat tu...@raptiye.org:
 Hey There,

 I've installed an Arch Linux server in our office for serving files over
 the network via Bonjour/avahi. All computers are connected to an ADSL modem
 via wireless. Only the server is connected via LAN. When I start the
 server, I can ping it:

 --- CMD OUTPUT
 ---

 $ ping office.local
 PING office.local (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.080 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.671 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.979 ms
 ^C
 --- office.local ping statistics ---
 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.979/1.243/1.671/0.305 ms

 $ ping 192.168.1.107
 PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.194 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.229 ms
 ^C
 --- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.194/1.212/1.229/0.017 ms

 After a few minutes however I can't ping it using the .local address:

 *$ ping office.local*
 *ping: cannot resolve office.local: Unknown host*

 $ ping 192.168.1.107
 PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.375 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.562 ms
 ^C
 --- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.375/1.469/1.562/0.094 ms

 --- CMD OUTPUT
 ---

 If I restart avahi-daemon, we can ping office.local for another few
 minutes. Any ideas?

 ---
 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?



Re: [arch-general] avahi problem

2012-04-05 Thread Alper Kanat
I did. However I found out that there's not much difference in the case of
host resolution. When hosts line is like the following:

$ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | grep hosts
hosts: files dns

I can ping office.local from other machines on the network. If I change
that line like this:

hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4

then I realized that host resolution is a little bit more slower.
Connecting via SSH takes 3-4 seconds longer. Even if I change the line like
this, office.local becomes inaccessible after a few minutes. I tried
enabling avahi-dnsconfd which also made no difference.

---
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 14:32, Jochen Maes (Gcool) gcool...@gmail.comwrote:

 Have you configured your /etc/nsswitch.conf (server side) as suggested
 on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Avahi#Hostname_resolution ?

 2012/4/5, Alper Kanat tu...@raptiye.org:
  Hey There,
 
  I've installed an Arch Linux server in our office for serving files over
  the network via Bonjour/avahi. All computers are connected to an ADSL
 modem
  via wireless. Only the server is connected via LAN. When I start the
  server, I can ping it:
 
  --- CMD OUTPUT
 
 ---
 
  $ ping office.local
  PING office.local (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.080 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.671 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.979 ms
  ^C
  --- office.local ping statistics ---
  3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.979/1.243/1.671/0.305 ms
 
  $ ping 192.168.1.107
  PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.194 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.229 ms
  ^C
  --- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.194/1.212/1.229/0.017 ms
 
  After a few minutes however I can't ping it using the .local address:
 
  *$ ping office.local*
  *ping: cannot resolve office.local: Unknown host*
 
  $ ping 192.168.1.107
  PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.375 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.562 ms
  ^C
  --- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.375/1.469/1.562/0.094 ms
 
  --- CMD OUTPUT
 
 ---
 
  If I restart avahi-daemon, we can ping office.local for another few
  minutes. Any ideas?
 
  ---
  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
 



Re: [arch-general] avahi problem

2012-04-05 Thread Jochen Maes (Gcool)
Are you running a firewall on the Arch box (or elsewhere in the
network) through which the avahi traffic has to pass? As I understand
it (various similar issues found through Google), you need to
explicitly allow mulitcast DNS traffic (udp 5353) for this feature to
work.

2012/4/5, Alper Kanat tu...@raptiye.org:
 I did. However I found out that there's not much difference in the case of
 host resolution. When hosts line is like the following:

 $ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf | grep hosts
 hosts: files dns

 I can ping office.local from other machines on the network. If I change
 that line like this:

 hosts: files mdns4_minimal dns mdns4

 then I realized that host resolution is a little bit more slower.
 Connecting via SSH takes 3-4 seconds longer. Even if I change the line like
 this, office.local becomes inaccessible after a few minutes. I tried
 enabling avahi-dnsconfd which also made no difference.

 ---
 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 14:32, Jochen Maes (Gcool) gcool...@gmail.comwrote:

 Have you configured your /etc/nsswitch.conf (server side) as suggested
 on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Avahi#Hostname_resolution ?

 2012/4/5, Alper Kanat tu...@raptiye.org:
  Hey There,
 
  I've installed an Arch Linux server in our office for serving files over
  the network via Bonjour/avahi. All computers are connected to an ADSL
 modem
  via wireless. Only the server is connected via LAN. When I start the
  server, I can ping it:
 
  --- CMD OUTPUT
 
 ---
 
  $ ping office.local
  PING office.local (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.080 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.671 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.979 ms
  ^C
  --- office.local ping statistics ---
  3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.979/1.243/1.671/0.305 ms
 
  $ ping 192.168.1.107
  PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.194 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.229 ms
  ^C
  --- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.194/1.212/1.229/0.017 ms
 
  After a few minutes however I can't ping it using the .local address:
 
  *$ ping office.local*
  *ping: cannot resolve office.local: Unknown host*
 
  $ ping 192.168.1.107
  PING 192.168.1.107 (192.168.1.107): 56 data bytes
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.375 ms
  64 bytes from 192.168.1.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.562 ms
  ^C
  --- 192.168.1.107 ping statistics ---
  2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.375/1.469/1.562/0.094 ms
 
  --- CMD OUTPUT
 
 ---
 
  If I restart avahi-daemon, we can ping office.local for another few
  minutes. Any ideas?
 
  ---
  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
 




Re: [arch-general] avahi problem

2012-04-05 Thread Alper Kanat
The firewall on our modem is disabled. Afaik default Arch Linux
installations doesn't come up with firewall enabled. I don't have a
firewall on my Mac either. So I believe this has nothing to do with the
firewall. Thank you for your interest btw.

---
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 15:05, Jochen Maes (Gcool) gcool...@gmail.comwrote:

 Are you running a firewall on the Arch box (or elsewhere in the
 network) through which the avahi traffic has to pass? As I understand
 it (various similar issues found through Google), you need to
 explicitly allow mulitcast DNS traffic (udp 5353) for this feature to
 work.


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.2.14-1

2012-04-05 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am 04.04.2012 08:59, schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
 Hi guys,
 please signoff 3.2.14 series for both arches.
 package is not in testing, please grab it from here:
 http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/

 This will move to [core] directly, because 3.3.1 is in [testing].

 greetings
 tpowa
bump anyone?

-- 
Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer  Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tp...@archlinux.org




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Re: [arch-general] Installing in VirtualBox - Screen goes black during installation

2012-04-05 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
to, 2012-04-05 kello 07:41 -0500, Joshua Poehls kirjoitti:
 I started installing Arch in VirtualBox this morning but twice now the
 screen goes black at some point during (or right after) the package
 download step and never comes back.
Well Linux in general has a powersaving or screensaving feature
don't know the exact meaning/use of it, but anyway in console, if you
don't touch the keyboard for a while the screen will blank itself.
Pressing any key will wake it up again. Don't know if this is the thing
you are experiencing...


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Re: [arch-general] Installing in VirtualBox - Screen goes black during installation

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Poehls
Doh. I think that was it. Thank you...

--
Joshua Poehls



On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jesse Juhani Jaara jesse.ja...@gmail.comwrote:

 to, 2012-04-05 kello 07:41 -0500, Joshua Poehls kirjoitti:
  I started installing Arch in VirtualBox this morning but twice now the
  screen goes black at some point during (or right after) the package
  download step and never comes back.
 Well Linux in general has a powersaving or screensaving feature
 don't know the exact meaning/use of it, but anyway in console, if you
 don't touch the keyboard for a while the screen will blank itself.
 Pressing any key will wake it up again. Don't know if this is the thing
 you are experiencing...



Re: [arch-general] USB mounted into wrong directory

2012-04-05 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook

It would appear that on Apr 4, Tom Gundersen did say:

 On Apr 4, 2012 11:14 AM, David pixelsh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Uh, is there any way to revert to old mapping?
  I do not like the new one.
 
 You'd have to check with udisks. My guess is that while reverting might
 work for the time being /media is going away in the future as the old
 implementation had issues (namespace and privacy in particular). If you
 have concerns about the new approach I suggest raising them sooner rather
 than later, before things become hard to change.

Pardon me for jumping in here, but you just reminded me that I read
somewhere that /media is going away. Can't say that THAT in it self bothers
me, since I don't use it. But I've been not allowing anything to auto-mount
usb devices for so long now that I've forgotten what (if anything) I had to do
to prevent it in Arch {or for that mater any of the other Linux that I
multi-boot...} My method of dealing with usb sticks/drives etc, is that if
root hasn't found the time to set up a custom fstab entry based on either
LABEL=UniquePartitionName for approved usb drives, or /dev/disk/by-id for
approved usb sticks, then only by getting root to proactively do something
about it do I want the durned thing mounted at all. My fstab method allows
for custom mount points where the user simply issues a mount mountpoint
and/or umount mountpoint command to access the approved device. I usually
do this from mc where the alt+enter binding will paste the mountpoint
dirname to the command line...

Anyway my only concern with the changes that are driving the demise of
media is that I'm hoping they won't result in automatic reactivation of auto
mounting tools that I don't want, don't use, don't understand, and mostly
don't remember how to disable... 

Do you know if I'm going to have to go there again???
 
-- 
|  ~^~   ~^~
|  ?   ?   Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
|  ^J(tWdy)P
|\___/ jtw...@ttlc.net


Re: [arch-general] Parallels 7 Tools

2012-04-05 Thread headmastersquall
I have tried several times to get the Parallels tools to install in Arch  
and was never successful. I run Arch through Virtual Box and it's very  
smooth.


Squall


[arch-general] Any way to revert chroot to gcc46?

2012-04-05 Thread David C. Rankin

Guys,

  Is there any way to revert my chroot for building back to gcc46 immediately 
prior to this last gcc47 update? Obvious reasons - bug fixes required due to 
new gcc47 C11  C11++ extension implementation, etc..., but I would like to 
continue building until the bugs are fixed. Is there a reasonable way to do 
that absent having to set up and point the chroot pacman.conf at a hand-built 
repo with just the gcc46 files in it?


--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.


Re: [arch-general] Any way to revert chroot to gcc46?

2012-04-05 Thread Baho Utot

On 04/05/2012 03:36 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

Guys,

  Is there any way to revert my chroot for building back to gcc46 
immediately prior to this last gcc47 update? Obvious reasons - bug 
fixes required due to new gcc47 C11  C11++ extension implementation, 
etc..., but I would like to continue building until the bugs are 
fixed. Is there a reasonable way to do that absent having to set up 
and point the chroot pacman.conf at a hand-built repo with just the 
gcc46 files in it?




copy the gcc binary/pkgbuilt files to chroot/root/repo

repo-add gccwhatever*

chroot chroot/root

pacman -S gccwhatever

exit





Re: [arch-general] Any way to revert chroot to gcc46?

2012-04-05 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/05/2012 03:43 PM, Baho Utot wrote:
 copy the gcc binary/pkgbuilt files to chroot/root/repo
 
 repo-add gccwhatever*
 
 chroot chroot/root
 
 pacman -S gccwhatever
 
 exit
 

Thanks Baho,

  I'll have to play with it a bit. I don't really see how that fits in with the
mkarchroot setup (probably does, I just don't see it). The build on gcc 4.7 is
coming along. Strangely, a bunch of the errors are during the package() part
of the build with libtool relink: errors like:

libtool: relink: g++  -fPIC -DPIC -shared -nostdlib
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0/../../../../lib/crti.o
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0/crtbeginS.o  .libs/gwenview_dummy.o
  -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/trinity/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/tqt3/lib
-L/build/src/gwenview/src/gvcore/.libs -L/opt/trinity/lib -L/opt/tqt3/lib
-L/usr/lib/mysql -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -L/build/pkg/opt/trinity/lib
-ltdeinit_gwenview -L/usr/lib
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0/../../../../lib -lgwenviewcore
-ltdeprint -lkmediaplayer -ljpeg -lexiv2 -lkipi -lkio -ltdeui -ltdecore
-L/build/pkg/usr/lib -lkutils -L/build/pkg/opt/tqt3/lib -ltqt-mt -lpq
-lmysqlclient -lXrender -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXinerama -lXft -lfreetype
-lfontconfig -ldl -lpng -lz -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ltqt -lpthread
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0 -L/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/../lib
-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0/../../.. -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0/crtendS.o
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.7.0/../../../../lib/crtn.o  -O2
-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined
-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--sort-common -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,-z -Wl,relro -Wl,--hash-style=gnu
  -Wl,-soname -Wl,gwenview.so -o .libs/gwenview.so
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltdeinit_gwenview
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
libtool: install: error: relink `gwenview.la' with the above command before
installing it
make[3]: *** [install-tdeinitLTLIBRARIES] Error 1

  Still trying to figure out why we are 'relinking' during 'package()'...

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.