Re: [arch-general] journalctl and I/O errors

2014-02-08 Thread Janna Martl
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Sébastien Leblanc leblancse...@gmail.comwrote:

 Conclusion (as I understand it):

 1. There is definitely a bug in Journalctl: it crashes (segfaults) on I/O
 errors.

 2. You have a drive that is failing, or your BIOS might not be set
 correctly.


Thanks, all, for the analysis. I have submitted a bug report [1] for
systemd. Also, it seems you were right about hardware failure --
though I still can't get smartctl to acknowledge anything being wrong
(except for nonzero current pending sector count), I ran badblocks,
which found a bunch of errors, including on sectors corresponding to
files outside /var/log/journal. Guess I should get a new drive.


[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74714


Re: [arch-general] journalctl and I/O errors

2014-02-08 Thread Sébastien Leblanc
On 8 February 2014 12:06, Janna Martl janna.martl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Sébastien Leblanc 
 leblancse...@gmail.comwrote:

  Conclusion (as I understand it):
 
  1. There is definitely a bug in Journalctl: it crashes (segfaults) on I/O
  errors.
 
  2. You have a drive that is failing, or your BIOS might not be set
  correctly.
 

 Thanks, all, for the analysis. I have submitted a bug report [1] for
 systemd. Also, it seems you were right about hardware failure --
 though I still can't get smartctl to acknowledge anything being wrong
 (except for nonzero current pending sector count), I ran badblocks,
 which found a bunch of errors, including on sectors corresponding to
 files outside /var/log/journal. Guess I should get a new drive.


 [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74714


Do not rely too much on SMART data; in their hard disk failure study,
Google concluded that when SMART reports a drive as unhealthy, it is
often right, but for many drives that failed, SMART was still
reporting them as healthy.

 Failure Trends in a Large Disk Drive Population, by Google Inc.
 [...]
 Our analysis identifies several parameters from the drive’s
 self monitoring facility (SMART) that correlate highly with
 failures. Despite this high correlation, we conclude that mod-
 els based on SMART parameters alone are unlikely to be useful
 for predicting individual drive failures

 http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//archive/disk_failures.pdf

-- 
Sébastien Leblanc