Re: [arch-general] Virtualbox under KDE plasma
On Tuesday 13 February 2018 8:33:09 AM IST you wrote: > Hello, > > I recently tried KDE plasma after 5.12 update and it is running smooth. > However I am experiencing two problems with virtualbox. kde plasma wayland to be specific :( It all works under kde plasma Xorg. > > 1. Virtualbox applications do not start unless QT_QPA_PLATFORM is set to > xcb. Under plasma wayland session it is set to wayland. > > 2. When a VM is launched, if it is maximized with Host-F, it loses all > keyboard/mouse interaction and has to be killed from the plasma session. > > Anybody has seen this? Should I report it upstream? -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] Virtualbox under KDE plasma
Hello, I recently tried KDE plasma after 5.12 update and it is running smooth. However I am experiencing two problems with virtualbox. 1. Virtualbox applications do not start unless QT_QPA_PLATFORM is set to xcb. Under plasma wayland session it is set to wayland. 2. When a VM is launched, if it is maximized with Host-F, it loses all keyboard/mouse interaction and has to be killed from the plasma session. Anybody has seen this? Should I report it upstream? Package details virtualbox 5.2.6-2 kde plasma 5.12.0 Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] firejail and network
On Tuesday 10 October 2017 6:33:25 AM IST Herminio Hernandez, Jr. via arch- general wrote: > Do you just run 'firejail firefox' from the terminal? Do have any custom > settings? yes, just 'firejail firefox', no customizations either. Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] firejail and network
On Tuesday 10 October 2017 11:33:25 AM IST NTS wrote: > Dear Shridhar, > > It's a known bug in firejail that has apparently been fixed upstream. > Once Arch's maintainer does a pull you may be fine: > > https://github.com/netblue30/firejail/issues/1591#issuecomment-334749301 > > So, it is not you :-) Oh yes, I am using systemd resolver as well. Thank you :) -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] firejail and network
Hello, For some time, chromium, firefox and qupzilla are unable to reach network/ internet/dns, if started from firejail. When started normally, all of these can reach the network as expected. So the internet link is not the problem. Has anybody experienced this? Any pointers to debug? Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] sandboxing
On Saturday 4 February 2017 11:00:12 PM IST Leonid Isaev wrote: > > Exactly. If I am running chromium with firejail, which whitelists what > > chromium can do to the file system(even better with --private); the > > browser > > cannot tamper with .profile/.bash_profile or .ssh. > > See, this is the problem: Why would a browser need these files? File access > should only be possible with user interaction (via a file-open dialog). Ideally, it doesn't. But programs have bugs and its nice to restrict them if those happens. Chromium just just an example. Here is something firejail(again an example sandbox) would prevent. https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/08/06/firefox-exploit-found-in-the-wild/ -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] sandboxing
On Sunday 5 February 2017 6:10:51 AM IST sivmu wrote: > Am 05.02.2017 um 05:16 schrieb Shridhar Daithankar: > > On Saturday 4 February 2017 7:28:31 AM IST sivmu wrote: > >> As long as the application has access to the xwayland instance, which is > >> by default the case when xwayland is available, it can influence all > >> other applications that still use the x-protcol. > > > > Just to understand, if there are two applications using xwayland, under a > > wayland session, will they be still able to look at each other's > > resources? > > > > If the answer is no, the security is equivalent to the wayland > > applications, since xwayland instance is essentially a sandbox? > > Not sure what you mean with resources. devices and events, mostly. > this point is about the insecurity of the X Windows System architecture, > which basically assumes that all applications are to be trusted. There > is no build in security, therefore failing modern threat models completly. > > This explains it pretty well I guess: > https://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.de/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-> > isolation.html ok. It confirms my understanding that X clients can listen to each other's events and modify them. But in xwayland, things are bit different. https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2014-January/012777.html As the thread suggests, if there is a separate X server instance per xwayland application, they won't be able to snoop on each other. > Btw. to fully prevent keyloggin on wayland, you need to do more, e.g. by > sandboxing, since there are ways to work around the security of wayland > where the default linux security model is weaker then that of the > wayland architecture. > > More info here: > https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/23mj49/wayland_is_not_immune_to_keyl > oggers/ Exactly. If I am running chromium with firejail, which whitelists what chromium can do to the file system(even better with --private); the browser cannot tamper with .profile/.bash_profile or .ssh. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] sandboxing
On Saturday 4 February 2017 7:28:31 AM IST sivmu wrote: > As long as the application has access to the xwayland instance, which is > by default the case when xwayland is available, it can influence all > other applications that still use the x-protcol. Just to understand, if there are two applications using xwayland, under a wayland session, will they be still able to look at each other's resources? If the answer is no, the security is equivalent to the wayland applications, since xwayland instance is essentially a sandbox? > > Only the input/output of applications using only the wayland protocol > are somewhat safe from this attack vector. > To fully close this risk, full adaption of wayland in all applications > is necessary, because then you no longer need any xserver. Again, if a wayland application and a xwayland application are running side- by-side, the xwayland application cannot of peek into the resources of wayland application right? Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] System crash troubleshooting help?
On बुधवार, ६ जानेवारी, २०१६ १०:५४:०७ म.उ. IST Aron Widforss wrote: > Good evening all, > > I was just watching Linux Sucks > (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pOxlazS3zs) on Youtube when my system > froze. It was the whole system, I could for example not switch to a TTY. > The audio was looping a one second thing. > > My troubleshooting skills are no pride to me, so I though I could just > ask you for help. These are the last entries in the journal (in > reverse). Did my system just crash because of a DHCP request? Or should > I focus on the kwin error, which is the very last one? > > I will probably not be available to answer to anything during the next > 20 hours. most importantly, can you reproduce the lockup? That would be needed to try various fixes/workarounds You have i915 graphics. Are you using uxa? That could avoid some lockups. $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "intel" Option "AccelMethod" "uxa" EndSection and are you using any window decoration other than default? I found that plastic can cause kwin crash rather regularly but it was not a lockup. Furthermore, in kwin settings, what opengl backend is configured? Does changing to a lower version help? Newer standards of opengl could expose some bugs in the stack. HTH. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] plasma 5.5 and wayland
On मंगळवार 15 डिसें 2015 9:11:15 AM Bhushan Shah wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Shridhar Daithankar > > Any suggestions? What package I am missing? > > > > Following is the output generated by startplasmacompositor. > > Currently there is bug, due to which you can not start plasma session > on wayland. Please try installing kinit-nooom and see if it fixes > problem? Well, with plasma 5.5.1, I am able to launch the session. There are several small defects as expected, but I have a full working desktop now. Now convincing sddm to show that entry in list of sessions is another matter. Despite of putting following in /usr/share/wayland-sessions, it does not show it. But it understands the entry for Weston somehow. -- [shridhar@arjun ~]$ cat /usr/share/wayland-sessions/plasma-wayland.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Type=Application Exec=dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startplasmacompositor TryExec=dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startplasmacompositor DesktopNames=KDE Name=Plasma-wayland Comment=Plasma by KDE wayland -- Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] plasma 5.5 and wayland
Hi all, Has anybody got plasma 5.5 under wayland working? I have weston working which I can launch from sddm. So hardware is not a problem I suppose. I have created a test user with no existing configuration at all. When I run startplasmacompositor, it displays the splash screen and then goes blank. Any suggestions? What package I am missing? Following is the output generated by startplasmacompositor. $ cat /home/test/plasma.log startplasmacompositor: Starting up... no screens available, assuming 24-bit color QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2 QPainter::setRenderHint: Painter must be active to set rendering hints QPainter::setPen: Painter not active QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active QPainter::setCompositionMode: Painter not active QPainter::end: Painter not active, aborted No backend specified through command line argument, trying auto resolution Backend does not support input, enforcing libinput support OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 11.0.7 OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30 Driver: Intel GPU class: Haswell OpenGL version: 3.0 GLSL version: 1.30 Mesa version: 11.0.7 Linux kernel version: 4.2.5 Requires strict binding:no GLSL shaders: yes Texture NPOT support: yes Virtual Machine:no X-Server started on display :0 org.kde.kwindowsystem: Could not find any platform plugin Configuring Lock Action Session path: "/org/freedesktop/login1/session/c3" QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 43 and type 'Read', disabling... TIA -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] systemd-nspawn : centOS container
On Saturday 31 Jan 2015 9:01:39 AM arnaud gaboury wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: On Friday 30 Jan 2015 7:12:18 PM arnaud gaboury wrote: I have happily used a second Arch as a container booted with systemd-nspawn. I would like now install a CentOS container, but I am not sure how to proceed the install. What is the correct way ? - first install minimal CentOS from an iso in a dedicated partition (in my case it will be a ssd), then mount the ssd filesystem in /var/lib/container/MyCentOS ? - mount the iso file with systemd-nspawn --image=/path/to/CentOS.iso, boot my container and then install CentOS . I haven't tried it myself but you could use a pre-built image like this http://images.linuxcontainers.org/images/centos/7/amd64/default/20150131_0 2:16/ Bonus point, it can run an lxc container as well. Thank you for the link, but i doesn't really answer my question with systemd-nspwan. You could untar the rootfs archive and start systemd-nspawn on it? instead of having to install the minimal image yourself? -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] systemd-nspawn : centOS container
On Friday 30 Jan 2015 7:12:18 PM arnaud gaboury wrote: I have happily used a second Arch as a container booted with systemd-nspawn. I would like now install a CentOS container, but I am not sure how to proceed the install. What is the correct way ? - first install minimal CentOS from an iso in a dedicated partition (in my case it will be a ssd), then mount the ssd filesystem in /var/lib/container/MyCentOS ? - mount the iso file with systemd-nspawn --image=/path/to/CentOS.iso, boot my container and then install CentOS . I haven't tried it myself but you could use a pre-built image like this http://images.linuxcontainers.org/images/centos/7/amd64/default/20150131_02:16/ Bonus point, it can run an lxc container as well. HTH -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Deploy Arch linux to many virtual machines
On Friday, January 24, 2014 02:17:01 AM Paul Gideon Dann wrote: On Thursday 23 Jan 2014 21:59:06 Plonky Duby wrote: You can use docker. http://docs.docker.io/en/latest/installation/archlinux/ Thank you; I was not aware of Docker. It looks *awesome*. FYI, stock lxc works very well with arch. I have blogged about it at http://www.ghodechhap.net/blog/ -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Deploy Arch linux to many virtual machines
On Friday, January 24, 2014 06:45:27 AM Кравец Роман wrote: Dear Plonky, No. I have many virtual machines on VirtualBox virtualization. I want, that on during first boot virtual machine will install arch linux over PXE. wouldn't it be better to create and import an appliance? Achieves the same effect. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Deploy Arch linux to many virtual machines
On Friday, January 24, 2014 08:05:26 AM Кравец Роман wrote: Dear Shridhar, I want set specified network setting and root password to each new machines. My script get setting over HTTP JSON request and get setting from master machine. create the appliance such that 1. it gets on network via dhcp, no name supplied 2. on first boot, contacts a central server to register itself 3. has pre-configured ssh keys in root account for certain external accounts 4. on registration, it triggers a bot, that ssh's into the new machine and customize the setting 5. reboot Should work no? I am pretty sure there are some automation frameworks like salt/puppet already handle this? real question is what does pxe boot/network install gives you that an appliance doesn't. Whats the distinguishing factor between two such VM instances, how do you set and discover it? -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] problems while upgrading kdelibs
Hello, While upgrading kdelibs-4.10.2-4 x86_64, I am getting errors such as these.. kdelibs: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.auth.conf exists in filesystem kdelibs: /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/checkXML exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kconfig_compiler exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kcookiejar4 exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kde4-config exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kded4 exists in filesystem There are total 3503 such errors, all for kdelibs only. As of now pacman reports that none of them are owned by any packages but thats a suspicious claim since it includes files like /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 and /usr/bin/kcookiejar4. Initially I thought it was a package sync error and any updated packages will be pushed soon. But after 4 days the situation persists. Has anybody else seen this? Should I just use --force? TIA.. Reference - generate file # pacman -Syu --noconfirm pacman.upgrade.log 21 - check error # grep -c exists pacman.upgrade.log 3503 - check conflicting packages # grep exists pacman.upgrade.log |grep -v kdelibs - check package ownership for file in $(grep exists pacman.upgrade.log|cut -f2 -d' ');do pacman -Qo $file;done 21|grep -vi No package owns -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] problems while upgrading kdelibs
On Thursday, May 09, 2013 08:42:41 AM Shridhar Daithankar wrote: Hello, While upgrading kdelibs-4.10.2-4 x86_64, I am getting errors such as these.. kdelibs: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.auth.conf exists in filesystem kdelibs: /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/checkXML exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kconfig_compiler exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kcookiejar4 exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kde4-config exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kded4 exists in filesystem There are total 3503 such errors, all for kdelibs only. As of now pacman reports that none of them are owned by any packages but thats a suspicious claim since it includes files like /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 and /usr/bin/kcookiejar4. Initially I thought it was a package sync error and any updated packages will be pushed soon. But after 4 days the situation persists. Has anybody else seen this? Should I just use --force? I found the problem and fixed it. A bit of digging revealed that pacman -Ql kdelibs was not listing anything and /var/lib/pacman/local/kdelibs-4.10.3-3/files was empty. I copied it from my laptop running identical setup and it worked. Still, what emptied the file remains a mystery. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] strange behaviour of pacman, what did I do?
Hi I was updating an archroot, created with mkarchroot to play with lxc. I thought following would work but it was doing something else altogether [root@bheem lxc]# pacman -Su -c /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ --root=$PWD/server1 Cache directory: /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ Packages to keep: All locally installed packages Do you want to remove all other packages from cache? [Y/n] ^C Interrupt signal received I think I lost a few packages during this because following command lead to a 30MB worth of download. [root@bheem lxc]# pacman -Su --cachedir=/var/cache/pacman/pkg/ --root=$PWD/server1 What did pacman do the first time? The man page does not have bare -c option and it wasn't -Sc where it started cleaning the packages(or was it?) And just to be sure.. I wanted to run pacman on the host again.. and eh? I lost my synced dbs? Thats strange.. [root@bheem lxc]# pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... error: core.db appears to be truncated: 3990/0 bytes error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from mirrors.kernel.org : Failed error: core.db appears to be truncated: 3990/0 bytes error: core.db appears to be truncated: 3990/0 bytes error: core.db appears to be truncated: 3990/0 bytes error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from mirrors.easynews.com : Resolving timed out after 1 milliseconds core is up to date 0.0 B 0.00B/s 00:00 [-] 0% extra 1416.8 KiB 205K/s 00:07 [#] 100% community 1917.7 KiB 206K/s 00:09 [#] 100% :: Starting full system upgrade... there is nothing to do -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] strange behaviour of pacman, what did I do?
On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:20:08 AM Eric Bélanger wrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Shridhar Daithankar What did pacman do the first time? The man page does not have bare -c option and it wasn't -Sc where it started cleaning the packages(or was it?) -Sc and -S -c do the same thing. It's just two different ways to write the options. It would have been better to answer no instead of hitting ^C. Oh.. I see.. Actually, I said yes for the first time, without paying much attention to what it was saying.. Only after a couple of seconds I noticed that it wasn't right.. The excerpt I pasted in the mail, was a rerun of command to capture a complete log for writing this mail. thanks for the explanation.. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] linux 3.5 and resolution EDID problem
On Friday 31 Aug 2012 9:13:30 AM Alexandre Ferrando wrote: It's an already reported bug, fix has landed in 3.6-rc3. See [ 0 ] for more info on the bug and patches to fix it. It will solve the display issue but you'll still see EDID reporting on dmesg PS: One of the patches will fail to apply because there is now a comment block between two instructions on the drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_crt.c file , so you could get the patch edited to work with 3.5 on my github at [ 1 ] and [ 2 ] for the two patches you need to apply [ 0 ] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45881 [ 1 ] https://github.com/alferpal/linux-zen/blob/master/0001-drm-i915-extract-con nector-update-from-intel_ddc_get.patch [ 2 ] https://github.com/alferpal/linux-zen/blob/master/0002-drm-i915-fall-back-t o-bit-banging-if-GMBUS-fails-in-.patch Hope it helps Absolutely. I don't have a problem running 3.4.9 and good to know that the issue is resolved. Thanks :) -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] linux 3.5 and resolution EDID problem
Hello all, After upgrading to linux-3.5.2, my monitor lost its highest resolution of 1360x768 and went to 1024x768 instead. Downgrading to linux-3.4.9 fixed the issue for the moment. There are some problems reported with linux-3.5-rc4, such as http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2012-June/024455.html. My desktop has Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics controller, which uses i915 module. and I am still experiencing the problem. However unlike the thread on arch forums(https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1153026), I am not experiencing any display corruption. Anything I can do to fix the problem with linux-3.5? Thanks -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] linux 3.5 and resolution EDID problem
On Friday 31 Aug 2012 1:58:23 AM rafael ff1 wrote: 2012/8/31 Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net: Did you try linux 3.5.3 from [core] ? Sorry for the typo in the port, I was using 3.5.3 only shridhar@bheem ~$ ls /var/cache/pacman/pkg|grep linux|grep 3.5 linux-3.5.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz linux-api-headers-3.5.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz linux-headers-3.5.3-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] kde and systemd [was Re: [arch-dev-public] merging systemd back to a singular package]
On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 AM Joakim Hernberg wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome version will require systemd - more to come. I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :( care to elaborate? I have always used KDE. Now I am using it with systemd but AFAIK it does not mandate anything systemd specific. GNOME OTOH forces you to use pulseaudio :P -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] time zone problem with systemd
On Saturday 18 Aug 2012 8:04:58 PM Keshav P R wrote:
Your problem might be due to RTC (motherboard) clock being in local
time (generally the case if you dual-boot with Windows. Systemd
assumes that RTC is in UTC, but in case of initscripts it can be
configured to be localtime. Hence the time offset with systemd boot.
Thank you very much for the precise problem description. This used to be a
windows laptop and the BIOS clock reported correct time.
The other machine where time was correct, the BIOS clock was behind 5.30
hours.
This is how I changed the clock to UTC and setup the correct time.
1. Boot into Windows and follow
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Time#UTC_in_Windows . After this
change Windows will no longer touch RTC clock at all, even if NTP is
enabled. From this moment on your RTC will be managed by any Arch.
Even after this change the RTC still remains localtime.
2. Boot into Arch and setup the files
/etc/{timezone,localtime,adjtime} according to your timezone, but with
RTC clock as UTC (very important). RTC as local time does not work
with systemd and may not work sometimes even with initscripts.
3. Run sudo hwclock --localtime --hctosys. This (temporarily) makes
the system clock the correct time.
4. Synchronise the system (software) clock using NTP. I use chrony as
NTP daemon, but any NTP daemon should do. This is needed even after
step 3.
5. Stop the NTP daemon systemd service.
6. Run sudo hwclock --utc --systohc. This changes the RTC time to
current UTC time.
7. Start the NTP daemon systemd service.
I rebooted the machine, set the bios clock correctly i.e. 5.30 hours behind
local time and now I have correct clock even after couple of reboots.
That's sufficient?
--
Regards
Shridhar
[arch-general] time zone problem with systemd
Hello, I am having trouble with time on a machine when I boot with systemd. The clock is ahead of actual time by the value of time zone offset. Funny thing is when I boot with initscripts, time is reported correctly. I have this problem on one machine but other machine works correctly. The only difference I can spot is hwclock reports local time, on the machine where time is correct. Whats the magic that I am missing? with systemd --- [shridhar@waman ~]$ date Sat Aug 18 14:23:16 IST 2012 [shridhar@waman ~]$ cat /etc/timezone Asia/Kolkata [shridhar@waman ~]$ ls -al /etc/localtime lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Aug 11 02:02 /etc/localtime - /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kolkata [shridhar@waman ~]$ cat /etc/adjtime 0.00 0 0.00 0 UTC [shridhar@waman ~]$ grep -i hwclock /etc/rc.conf DAEMONS=(hwclock syslog-ng dbus network crond @cpufreq @openntpd @dnsmasq @sshd @laptop-mode kdm) [shridhar@waman ~]$ grep -i hardware /etc/rc.conf [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:26:28 PM IST -0.110228 seconds [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock -u Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:29:35 PM IST -0.375925 seconds --- with initscripts --- [shridhar@waman ~]$ date Sat Aug 18 08:44:09 IST 2012 [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:33:05 PM IST -0.146140 seconds [root@waman shridhar]# hwclock -u Sat 18 Aug 2012 02:33:10 PM IST -0.438390 seconds --- -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Personal note
On Wednesday 15 Aug 2012 7:27:29 PM Tom Gundersen wrote: Hi guys, As most devs have done already, I'm going to change my relationship with arch-general. This probably does not matter to most of you, so sorry for the noise. Then again, it might be a useful reminder about how most devs interact with the list (or rather, how they do not). My approach to arch-general used to be: 1) to scan it for bug reports and feedback related to my corner of the Arch world, and follow up on whatever bugs/problems/questions I could. 2) to correct anything that I considered misinformation about the same. I am no longer able to keep up with this, so I will: 1) stop dealing with bugs reported on the mailing-list, please report anything to the bug tracker. 2) just accept that the world is full of misinformation and baseless speculations and not engage with it any longer. This is mostly for the sake of my own sanity, but also because I think my continued presence on this mailing list decreases rather than increases the current abysmal quality of discussion. Pl. stay around. Accessible developers is a huge plus of arch community and it is really sad to see it recede. Ignore discussions/part-of-discussions that no longer stay technical but pl. don't leave. Your contributions are very valuable. For every vocal annoyance, there are a thousand happy and thankful users, even though they don't make their presence known. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Partition mounting in systemd [WAS: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd]
On Wednesday 15 Aug 2012 8:53:37 AM Oon-Ee Ng wrote: Do I need to do something additional to get systemd to 'give up' partitions totally? tell systemd not to use fsck on btrfs partition? Something like this?(pasted from my fstab) /dev/sda1 /data btrfs noatime,flushoncommit,defaults 0 0 Does that help? -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] KDE and plasma-desktop CPU usage
Hello, I recently formatted an acer netbook with intel atom processor, 32 bit, 1.66GHz/1GB RAM, with arch. I installed kde on it, everything went as expected. However when I log in with a normal user, the KDE start-up completes but the splash screen is stuck. plasma-desktop process is eating 100% CPU. Killing and restarting the process does not help. I think the machine is dual core, /proc/cpuinfo shows two cores but might be hyper-threaded, am not sure. I can hit Alt-F2, get a krunner prompt and run applications like konsole but the desktop remain unavailable. I had just started dbus from rc.conf and created a user as follows # useradd -m -g users -G audio,video shridhar And log-in from kdm. Google is not much of help. Any suggestions before I report the bug upstream? -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] systemd and btrfs
Hello All, Just for the sake of archives, I had noted a few days ago, that systemd won't pick up my home partition after an unclean shutdown. The message is available at http://www.mail-archive.com/arch-general@archlinux.org/msg28445.html However, a later and unrelated discussion revealed the problem(I hope so, am no longer on systemd nor am I going to try a forced shutdown), that btrfsck does not honour traditional fsck methods. The thread is here http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/43354 When systemd refused to mount my home partition, it was indeed on btrfs and I could not debug it easily. Taking the advise from the thread, I have set the fsck parameter in fstab to 0, though I am not back on systemd. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] [Solved] Re: pacman and corrupt packages
On Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 11:15:48 AM Krzysztof Warzecha wrote: 2012/7/25 Ike Devolder ike.devol...@gmail.com: That is an option I have not yet tried but I just want to preserve the reproduction and debug the problem if there is any. Maybe this will help: cd /var/lib/pacman/pkg for pkg in *; do bsdtar -tf $pkg /dev/null || echo $pkg is broken; done This is strange, for me, pacman always showed which package is broken (and asked to delete it). Can you disable any ftp mirrors from your mirrorlist ([1])? Could you post your pacman.conf? [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1050214#p1050214 Ok, that did the trick. Last package I was getting error for was gcc-libs. So I removed it from cache. Then I searched the cache for broken packages, as suggested above and found icu package which wasn't completely download i.e. only a .xz.part file, not a .xz file. Removed that and pacman -Syu. It worked. I also have another i686 VM for $DAYJOB(I am not letting some closed source vpn solution take over my desktop network :P ) and it had the same problem. So I checked up the part files there and found qt-4.8.x...part. Removed it and it worked there as well. I am going to reproduce this problem next time by forcefully interrupting a download(if my ISP does not beat me to it already) and file a bug. Thanks for all the help :) -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] pacman and corrupt packages
Hello All, Last few days my net connection drops randomly or slows down to a crawl. As a result, there are several timeouts during package downloads. When a download timeout occurs, pacman aborts with invalid or corrupted package. Is it possible to detect which package is corrupt and invalid, so that it can be downloaded? When it happened with one package, I deleted it manually and next time it worked but when several packages get timeout, its hard to detect the failing one. Does pacman has built-in retry functionality? Here is the complete log. - :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... Targets (33): ati-dri-8.0.4-2 boost-libs-1.50.0-2 clang-3.1-3 cups-1.5.3-6 cups-filters-1.0.20-1 dbus-1.6.4-1 dbus-core-1.6.4-1 dovecot-2.1.8-2 gcc-4.7.1-5 gcc-libs-4.7.1-5 git-1.7.11.3-1 gnutls-3.0.21-2 icu-49.1.2-2 imagemagick-6.7.8.6-1 intel-dri-8.0.4-2 khrplatform-devel-8.0.4-2 libcups-1.5.3-6 libegl-8.0.4-2 libgl-8.0.4-2 libglapi-8.0.4-2 libgles-8.0.4-2 libmp4v2-2.0.0-2 llvm-3.1-3 mesa-8.0.4-2 nginx-1.2.2-2 python2-distribute-0.6.28-1 qt-4.8.2-3 qt- gstreamer-0.10.2-2 svga-dri-8.0.4-2 taglib-1.7.2-2 ttf-liberation-2.00.0-1 tzdata-2012d-1 xf86- video-intel-2.20.1-1 Total Installed Size: 515.40 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 1.88 MiB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y (33/33) checking package integrity [#] 100% error: failed to commit transaction (invalid or corrupted package) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. - With pacman -sy --debug I get following error snippet - debug: found cached pkg: /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-8.0.4-2- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz debug: sig data: iQEcBAABAgAGBQJQC9QHAAoJEJRlerIPKgkrd/EH/jhoIY6szxkh3AFGHogBLGe33tIcGhMchGI9jtxEht/Df+IB9X9tYC5nG62pOL9+v0Sl4yVLBW4Ni0mYdwQ0UfJr3Mt1s7C3LbTI1ucU8WZMZicXc8tDKurRnPBDkAqnhK4+H7 4qa6ALNfIDQK7PVQTIedAQDgO9WsPd3DsKcOfNbEXZrDZSBU3awoaQuezKaoif/JnSt7iRXn3hd8piuUgQuLQuksAe+Oa6MtEgXoCHQ22uzXa6nEV1EkO0q1sf8+0w/9+4mD3ejUutfLAQbxqmpfmw3kEuQ1eaICRLRgRu0ugKuwqi9cvdDBiw/27Z1QTkY aUNtvdT66Wb5OuAJGI= debug: checking signature for /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-8.0.4-2- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz debug: 1 signatures returned debug: fingerprint: ADC8A1FCC15E01D45310419E94657AB20F2A092B debug: summary: valid debug: summary: green debug: status: Success debug: timestamp: 1342952455 debug: exp_timestamp: 0 debug: validity: full; reason: Success debug: key: ADC8A1FCC15E01D45310419E94657AB20F2A092B, Andreas Radke andy...@archlinux.org, owner_trust unknown, disabled 0 debug: signature is valid debug: signature is fully trusted debug: returning error 6 from _alpm_pkg_validate_internal : wrong or NULL argument passed - -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] pacman and corrupt packages
Followup, On Wednesday 25 Jul 2012 9:03:42 AM Shridhar Daithankar wrote: With pacman -sy --debug I get following error snippet - debug: found cached pkg: /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-8.0.4-2- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz debug: sig data: iQEcBAABAgAGBQJQC9QHAAoJEJRlerIPKgkrd/EH/jhoIY6szxkh3AFGHogBLGe33tIcGhMchGI9 jtxEht/Df+IB9X9tYC5nG62pOL9+v0Sl4yVLBW4Ni0mYdwQ0UfJr3Mt1s7C3LbTI1ucU8WZMZicX c8tDKurRnPBDkAqnhK4+H7 4qa6ALNfIDQK7PVQTIedAQDgO9WsPd3DsKcOfNbEXZrDZSBU3awoaQuezKaoif/JnSt7iRXn3hd 8piuUgQuLQuksAe+Oa6MtEgXoCHQ22uzXa6nEV1EkO0q1sf8+0w/9+4mD3ejUutfLAQbxqmpfmw3 kEuQ1eaICRLRgRu0ugKuwqi9cvdDBiw/27Z1QTkY aUNtvdT66Wb5OuAJGI= debug: checking signature for /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ati-dri-8.0.4-2- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz debug: 1 signatures returned debug: fingerprint: ADC8A1FCC15E01D45310419E94657AB20F2A092B debug: summary: valid debug: summary: green debug: status: Success debug: timestamp: 1342952455 debug: exp_timestamp: 0 debug: validity: full; reason: Success debug: key: ADC8A1FCC15E01D45310419E94657AB20F2A092B, Andreas Radke andy...@archlinux.org, owner_trust unknown, disabled 0 debug: signature is valid debug: signature is fully trusted debug: returning error 6 from _alpm_pkg_validate_internal : wrong or NULL argument passed - I deleted ati-dri package and redownloaded it. This time, without any timeouts and it still failed the upgrade with same error for the same package. So I uninstalled ati-dri and xf86-video-ati. I have intel card and got all those extra drivers because I installed the whole group for simplicity. Try again and this time it failed for gcc-libs. Delete, redownload and the error still persists. and I don't think uninstalling gcc-libs is an option. I also found https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/28014 but I don't think that can solely fix the issue. --debug is printing enough information or so I would like to think. Pl. Help. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] pacman and corrupt packages
On Tuesday 24 Jul 2012 11:58:14 PM Jeremiah Dodds wrote: Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Jeremiah Dodds Does it continue after a pacman -Scc? Why are you recommending clearing his entire cache (which can be quite useful) when he's already specifically cleared the offending package and still has problems? I've run into situations where I thought I had cleared a corrupted package but didn't actually do so, or where I missed one. Considering he's tried multiple times, it might be worth clearing the entire thing to make sure he's not missing something. That is an option I have not yet tried but I just want to preserve the reproduction and debug the problem if there is any. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.
On Sunday 22 Jul 2012 6:28:58 PM Tom Gundersen wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Jorge Almeida jjalme...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean the Arch devs, I meant Mr. Poettering friends. Ah, I see. I made clear that I think the Arch devs have a difficult task, trying to keep the Arch spirit while keeping in sync with upstream. This may prove impossible if upstream is taken over by a couple of devs with a huge superavit of self-esteem and a deficit of esteem for Unix. Again, having contempt for Unix is perfectly legitimate, but they should assume it and start their own OS. One can always hope that things will change for the better upstream. I'd like to point out that systemd upstream is very easy to work with, and I have never had problems getting in changes (except for when I was wrong of course). If you have technical concerns and phrase them in a technical way they will be taken seriously. Admittedly there is not much patience for non-technical objections. Just a satisfied long time user voting in :) I support keeping exiting init system as far as feasible. Its not broken, why change it and all.. having systemd and initscripts running side by side, is best of both the worlds.. BUT rc.conf is merely the front end to it, and matters only so much. If it is replaced by various config files, so be it. So long as they work as documented( and they do, thanks to the arch developers), front end does not matter. systemd is a big project and it will take time to be as reliable as current init scriptS(may be it already is.. haven't tried for an year or so). anecdote I was on systemd once, about an year back.. just to find out first-hand, what the hoopla is all about. It worked, no fuss but nothing great over current initscripts for a typical developer workstation/desktop. However one fine day, an abrupt power-cut later, my home partition was no longer mountable under systemd. Initscripts worked fine. So I switched back.. didn't miss a thing.. /anecdote And to all the people considering BSD, have you considered that freebsd just got binary updates(dunno about signed packages there), a release back and they are going thr. a major C++ runtime overhaul that will take couple of release to shake down and an year down the line, they will struggle once wayland goes mainstream? arch is the best base OS out there. Its stable by philosophy, has rolling releases and has linux(for comparison with BSD and hardware supports). Nothing else come any closer. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] kopete and google talk
Hello, I have configured a gmail account in kopete and google talk/libjingle is enabled. However if I right click on the contact properties, Call google talk contact is always disabled. What do I need to do to get it working? TIA. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] qtwebkit and html5 video
On Thursday, February 02, 2012 02:32:47 AM Shridhar Daithankar wrote: On Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:40:05 PM Tim Stella wrote: Does anybody else experience this too? Do videos on the youtube site itself work? I don't think that embedded videos will work with html5. Nope. tried the following(a trailor from a upcoming hindi movie), same symptoms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M97P3zoUIosfeature=g- logocontext=G2fdb9b2FOAAABAA http://html5demos.com/video does not work either. I just get an incrementing timer, no video border/progress bar either. with youtube, at least thats available firefox plays both of them nicely.. I was researching further on this topic and stumbled across http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2011-December/017091.html Following it, I went to http://tinyvid.tv/ and I am able to play video's from that site in konqueror. So it is related to codecs. Hence I searched for gstreamer codecs that I didn't have. I installed the following additional packages gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-good-plugins gstreamer0.10-ugly gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins So the current set of installed gstreamer packages are local/gstreamer0.10 0.10.35-1 local/gstreamer0.10-bad 0.10.22-3 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) local/gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins 0.10.22-3 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) local/gstreamer0.10-base 0.10.35-1 local/gstreamer0.10-base-plugins 0.10.35-1 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) local/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 0.10.13-1 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) local/gstreamer0.10-good 0.10.30-1 local/gstreamer0.10-good-plugins 0.10.30-1 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) local/gstreamer0.10-python 0.10.22-1 local/gstreamer0.10-ugly 0.10.18-4 local/gstreamer0.10-ugly-plugins 0.10.18-4 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) local/phonon-gstreamer 4.5.1-1 Log in again and it works. Now I can play the phoronix embedded video, html5demos video and the youtube trailer I mentioned upthread. I think what I did was a broad hammer but it worked. May be these could be added as optional dependencies to qtwebkit? -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] qtwebkit and html5 video
Hello All, this has been bothering me for some time, so just posting for wider audience. Facts, all applicable to rekonq and konqueror with webkit part - I have qtwebkit,kwebkitpart and rekonq installed - I am on youtube html5 demo trial. youtube.com/html5 reports support for webm and h.264 support - html5test.com reports video element support with MPEG-4/H.264/Ogg Theora/WebM. I have gstreamer phonon backend with most of the codecs installed. - youtube html5 video does not work. I get a progress bar but no video frames. example URL tested http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTA1MTQ as it has couple of youtube videos embedded - videos from vimeo.com does not play either. google isn't helpful. and there is no bug in arch linux bug db. Does anybody else experience this too? -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] qtwebkit and html5 video
On Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:40:05 PM Tim Stella wrote: Does anybody else experience this too? Do videos on the youtube site itself work? I don't think that embedded videos will work with html5. Nope. tried the following(a trailor from a upcoming hindi movie), same symptoms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M97P3zoUIosfeature=g- logocontext=G2fdb9b2FOAAABAA http://html5demos.com/video does not work either. I just get an incrementing timer, no video border/progress bar either. with youtube, at least thats available firefox plays both of them nicely.. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] qtwebkit and html5 video
On Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:17:48 PM Peter Lewis wrote: On Thursday 02 Feb 2012 01:55:47 Shridhar Daithankar wrote: - youtube html5 video does not work. I get a progress bar but no video frames. Does anybody else experience this too? I still have this problem too with my regular user account, which contains the same dot files that have been upgraded since pre-KDE 4.0 days. It does work for me with a new user though, but so far I've been totally unable to find which part of my user config is causing it. Nope. That is not the case here. I created a new user and set it all up. Same result. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] qtwebkit and html5 video
On Wednesday, February 01, 2012 09:57:10 PM Isaac Dupree wrote: On 02/01/2012 03:40 PM, Tim Stella wrote: Do videos on the youtube site itself work? I don't think that embedded videos will work with html5. Embedded videos from youtube do work (sometimes; increasingly often as Google/YouTube becomes more confident about its HTML5 support, I think, but it seems a bit random). I know because I see them in Chromium on Arch Linux with no Flash plugin installed. The embedded video link on phoronix I posted earlier works fine in firefox too. Forgot to mention earlier. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Writing my mother tongue in LibreOffice.
On Friday 12 Aug 2011 6:35:59 PM Madhurya Kakati wrote: So basically I can use my english qwerty keyboard to enter assamese characters? That's great. So I just have to install ibus and then I can write in Assamese in libreoffice writer? There are multiple ways to achieve the same thing. It all boil downs to how to inform X that what keyboard layout you are using. I regularly type मराठी(marathi) in all my programs from KDE and do not need any special installation. Just go to system settings - input devices - keyboard layout - configure layout and add the desired layout. Thats all. I just checked it but asamese is not listed in there. Closest one is bengali. Even in indian layout, there is no asamese variant. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] Fwd: [PLUG] The World's Easiest Arch Linux Manual
-- Regards Shridhar---BeginMessage--- Hi, As we started publishing manuals on Muktware a few months ago. We just published a detailed Arch Linux manual. The manual is targetted at those users who want to try it but fail to do due to lack of easy manuals. ArchWiki is an excellent source, yet we needed simplifications. I hope it will help users. http://www.muktware.com/man/2165 bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List ---End Message---
Re: [arch-general] liberoffice 3.4.2 strange behaviour with odt files
On Wednesday 03 Aug 2011 9:31:57 PM Al wrote:
Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
I just faced a strange problem with libreoffice 3.4.2.
An old odt file, created with libreoffice 3.4.1, around jul 20. Today
when I went to open it with libreoffice 3.4.2, I was asked for filter
selection, the available options being
- Help Content
- ODF chart
- Openoffice.org 1.0 chart
libreoffice has been split into multiple packages.
You need to install the individual packages:
pacman -S libreoffice-{base,calc,draw,impress,math,writer}
palm-face :(
yes it worked. libreoffice-kde4 brought it back to the way it was earlier.
I don't know why I didn't think of this, despite of going thr. the other
thread.. The symptoms were not the same though.. anyways
Thank you very much.
--
Regards
Shridhar
[arch-general] liberoffice 3.4.2 strange behaviour with odt files
Hello, I just faced a strange problem with libreoffice 3.4.2. An old odt file, created with libreoffice 3.4.1, around jul 20. Today when I went to open it with libreoffice 3.4.2, I was asked for filter selection, the available options being - Help Content - ODF chart - Openoffice.org 1.0 chart Clearly it is somehow confused and unable to open the file. kword can open the file just fine. Of course the formatting is not the same and I don't want to reformat it. Google didn't have much to offer on this. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] The need for /lib64 - testing please
On Friday 01 Jul 2011 10:18:42 AM Allan McRae wrote: If you want to try it out, just remove the /lib64 folder (after making sure it only has symlinks to ld-2.13.so and ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 in it. Run your system as usual for a while and report any issues you come across. Never bothered to look into it before. But I already have only this. $ ls -al /lib64 total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 जन25 17:27 . drwxr-xr-x 29 root root 4096 जन30 04:07 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 जन25 17:27 ld-2.14.so - ../lib/ld-2.14.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 जन25 17:27 ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 - ../lib/ld- linux-x86-64.so.2 I am running full KDE desktop, virtualbox multiple VMs, multiple users(family members) but no multilib. The system was installed on dec 2009. I am using systemd since last 2 months, if that matters. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
On Friday 24 September 2010 18:52:30 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: It seems btrfs is really worth a try after so many positive feedbacks. Any ideas how can I format / with latest btrfs? I've the archiso on my pen drive which was released months ago, I guess it doesn't have the latest btrfs-progs? What's the method then? Create a PenArch? long time back I did this. # modprobe btrfs # mkfs -t btrfs device # mount -t btrfs device mountpoint but this was not thr. the installer but for an extra disk. and it was not for / either. btrfs progs git repo does not get updated very frequently but it remains useful for what it is. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 18:37:56 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Hmm, after reading some responses, I don't think I'll use BTRFS on /, because the power here is quite unreliable and my UPS can't guarantee proper switching (it's nearly 12 yrs old!). So, what else would you guys recommend on / in order achieve high speed and no failures if the FS was left in an inconsistent state? A good hard drive and ext4. btrfs has been good for me for almost 9 months now. My backup and home partitions are on btrfs and it is as invisible as ext4, just works for me, including forced reboots from power loss. The inverter can't take the spike of power loss, especially if a fan is running somewhere and causes pc to reboot. To survive power loss, I recommend these two settings ext4 : auto_da_alloc,noatime,defaults btrfs : flushoncommit,noatime,defaults To me, btrfs has been twice as fast compared to ext4, in some situations. List archives should have more info. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.
On Thursday 02 September 2010 04:53:24 David C. Rankin wrote: On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not. Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops aren't that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread. IMO KDE part of lost snappiness is due to addtional technical layers and latency between intra-daemon communication(nepomuk, strigi, akonadi and what not) rather than resource hog. It can be tuned down to bare minimum necessary. I have not seen the lag anytime but I have a 4GB ram machine. however konqueror and rekonq are far more snappier than anything else. firefox OTOH damn its slow to start. even soffice starts faster than it. I have no extensions installed. Another issue to consider is consistency of lag. on KDE side, its pretty much constant. On windows 7 machine at my work, its click and pray, despite of having a 2GB RAM machine.(1GB is taken by VM but lot is still free). Compared to KDE, that really unbearable. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Why no phonon in Qt
On Monday 28 June 2010 19:11:09 Peter Lewis wrote: if memory serves correct from gentoo days it has to do with qt phonon an kde phonon stepping on each others toes... however it might be for different reasons in arch. No idea really, but a quick query tells me that phonon is provided as a separate package: % pacman -Qs phonon local/phonon 4.4.2-1 The multimedia API for KDE4 local/phonon-gstreamer 4.4.2-1 Phonon Gstreamer backend So I'm guessing that you could rebuild Qt with phonon and remove the standalone phonon package(s) - but that might break other things that this approach is designed to make work. attached is a pkgbuild diff for qt that builds qt with phonon. I had to remove phonon, phonon-xine and phonon-gstreamer using --nodeps. I also created a symlink /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend pointing to /usr/lib/qt/plugins/phonon_backend/ I also installed gstreamer good/bad/ugly plugins. After this, webkit built the video support and html5test reports mpeg4/h.264 but no webm. I can play videos from tinyvid.tv too(which are ogv format). but this build of webkit crashes way too many times with the NP-Initialize error. So I am not using this for the moment. Youtube still does not work for some reason. I thought h.264 should work with that. juk works so basic phonon support is working but control center disappears after clicking on multimedia. The error logged is symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/kcm_phonon.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK6Phonon12GlobalConfig19hideAdvancedDevicesEv So I guess things are not fully ok and it would require kdelibs rebuild too. I am now back to webkit bundled with Qt. I guess it will be sometime before things work as expected with a webkit based browser. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Why no phonon in Qt
On Monday 28 June 2010 19:11:09 Peter Lewis wrote: Or alternatively, can you tell webkit to look for the separate phonon that's not provided with Qt when it builds? Thats not possible. The webkit build system for qt port, looks for qt config only. There is no way to provide it. OK, this can be forced but I am interested in getting it working in a maintainable way) -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Why no phonon in Qt
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 00:08:15 Damjan Georgievski wrote: I have removed flash after the latest problem with x86_64 release and I want to get youtube working ASAP. To that end, I downloaded nightly sources of webkit(not wanting to download the entire svn checkout) and built the qt port. However the video element is still missing, as tested on http://html5test.com. There are 2 more options you could try too: - use aur/minitube a really nice standalone app for watching YouTube But you need to know URL beforehand IIRC. Too much for my wife. - use a nightly build of Firefox 3.7a/4.0 which supports WebM - its faster and will support html5 + webM on Youtube (but afaik it's only available on some videos) In general I use firefox only when I have to, because it does not integrate well with KDE and I really don't like GTK looks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Why no phonon in Qt
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 01:55:39 Caleb Cushing wrote: On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: I have removed flash after the latest problem with x86_64 release and I want to get youtube working ASAP. chromium 5 suppport h264 and 6 (if you want to go there) supports webm... I've read KDE 4.5 is supposed to have webkit support in konqueror so maybe that will work too. Why do I need yet another GTK browser when I am already tolerating firefox ? :) I also have kde-webkitpart installed so my konqueror and rekonq are at same level of webkit support, i.e. what is supported by Qt4.6. So that path is not a gain for now. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] Why no phonon in Qt
Hello, I have removed flash after the latest problem with x86_64 release and I want to get youtube working ASAP. To that end, I downloaded nightly sources of webkit(not wanting to download the entire svn checkout) and built the qt port. However the video element is still missing, as tested on http://html5test.com. Digging into webkit build system, I discovered that it has disabled video/audio element support for qt port because the installed qt does not support phonon. from http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/qt/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD, phonon support is explicitly disabled during qt build. I searched around but could not find a reason for the same. I really do not want to build(more importantly maintain) my own qt build. So why is phonon support disabled in Qt? -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Open Letter (Plea for Medical/Help Assistance) to World Leaders
On Friday 25 June 2010 19:24:14 Ionuț Bîru wrote: did you got the blue or the red pill? obligatory http://xkcd.com/566/ -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Compiling Firefox
On Monday 31 May 2010 09:03:08 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote: On 31/05/10 13:23, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Jeffrey Lynn Parke Jr. that's a firefox port for the qt toolkit, as opposed to the regular gtk one. I know that, but is it worth installing ? Surely you can decide yourself. I heard that firefox-qt is still under heavy development and is not much good. I am on a slow connection, so would like a feedback if someone is already using it. I would recommend rekonq and kde webkit part. The later is in AUR. For the former, it is available from upstream git and pretty usable as day-to-day browser, especially when there is firefox to fallback to. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] firefox addon [Re: Compiling Firefox]
On Monday 31 May 2010 09:48:51 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Nope. I have 24 addons in Firefox. Just cannot leave firefox. I loved the chrome UI, so installed chromifox extreme (with chromifox companion) which makes firefox look and behave like chrome :D Firefox QT's screenshots are impressive, worth a try. Just a curious question from a casual firefox user. What addons do you use ? I have never used a single addon for firefox so just want to know. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.33.3-2 (and aufs2)
On Sunday 09 May 2010 23:22:19 Thomas Bächler wrote: Am 09.05.2010 19:37, schrieb Thomas Bächler: Am 09.05.2010 19:23, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: I noticed the same. But this is caused by the mkinitcpio update and not the kernel. In my case logo.nologo in the kernel parameter line was causing this. That is plan bullshit. The mkinitcpio update didn't even _touch_ the init file, it is entirely unchanged. Okay, gcc 4.5.0 still fucks up, I am pushing a new mkinitcpio-busybox directly to core, built with -O0 this time, as this will keep breaking people's systems. http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43987 is that related? -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] upgrade problems
Hi, I got this pacman error just now, when I wanted to upgrade to 2.6.33. # pacman -Su :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: kqemu: requires kernel262.6.33 :: madwifi: requires kernel262.6.33 I removed both these packages and the upgrade is proceeding. Just a heads up for others who actually need these packages. I don't know why I had madwifi as there is no wireless card in this desktop machine. -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] pacman error
Hello, I got this error when I ran pacman -Syu. [r...@bheem horo]# pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... ... lots of package listing,mostly KDE4.4.2 Total Download Size:0.00 MB Total Installed Size: 894.60 MB Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y checking package integrity... error: error while reading package /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings- smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz: Lzma library error: No progress is possibleTruncated input file (needed 5484032 bytes, only 0 available) error: failed to commit transaction (libarchive error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. [r...@bheem ]# ls -la /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings-smoke-4.4.2-1- x86_64.pkg.tar.xz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2441216 2010-03-31 05:03 /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings-smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz My guess is I would have to wait till mirrors sync. out possibly. Is there anything else I should look for? -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] pacman error
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 06:58:44 Andrea Scarpino wrote: On Wednesday 31 March 2010 02:11:09 Shridhar Daithankar wrote: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y checking package integrity... error: error while reading package /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kdebindings- smoke-4.4.2-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz: Lzma library error: No progress is possibleTruncated input file (needed 5484032 bytes, only 0 available) error: failed to commit transaction (libarchive error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. Hi, this is already fixed. Clean your cache and sync your mirror. right md5sums is: 9090feb6a7448f9147a892c77d3dda60 Done Upgraded 248 packages and running KDE4.4.2 :) Thanks. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Open Konsole Here ???
On Friday 19 March 2010 11:59:06 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: KDE used to have an Open Konsole Here option as it appears in Nautilus when you install nautilus-open-terminal. Where's it vanished ? Or I'm missing some addon ? Hit F4 in dolphin :). Although it will open konsole part and not a full fledged konsole. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4
On Tuesday 16 March 2010 14:41:41 Nathan Wayde wrote: On 16/03/10 00:48, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: [...] But as far as file system performance goes, the overhead should be identical for both the runs, no? I'm not too sure about that. I'm guessing there is less seeking going on with Btrfs. Some files systems (reiserfs + reiserfs4 IIRC) are very good with many small files, better than the ext*fs, this may be another case of that. Yes btrfs does have tail packing i.e. storing inode and the file together in a single block. However all the files I had in the tree were 50-55K in size and that definitely does not fit in a block. I still think you could achieve better times by not calling the external command that many times. Since you're already gonna store the checksums in a database, I'd just write a proper program in python or something. The application I am developing already has copy/copyttree and md5sum built- in. I mmap the whole file and do memcpy/memcmp/md5sum in a single pass. That is already a bit faster than native cp, which uses write and buffer management. I changed/refactored the tree copy code and created a new tree. And I wanted to verify outside the application that the tree copy has gone good. Hence did find/md5sum. This was a one time exercise only but the result were drastic enough to be published. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4
On Monday 15 March 2010 15:44:35 Nathan Wayde wrote: On 13/03/10 03:05, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: Hi, Just wanted to share an interesting experience I had today. Check http://ghodechhap.net/btrfs.performance.txt Maybe you're looking for http://docs.python.org/library/filecmp.html One cannot help but think that you took a disk-bound process and turned it into a cpu-bound one. Since you're just interested in which files are different you should have just used `cmp` instead of `md5sum` the latter is just overkill and I'd assume calling an external command that many times can't be very nice either. here are some comparisons, they use /usr/lib - i figured 75000 files should be a good test... I made this as deliberately unfair/in-comparable as possible, I wanted to show the potential overhead of calling md5sum that many times. I didn't know of cmp, thanks. I tried the same thing with cmp in loops and it agrees with your comments that it is is totally I/O bound, not CPU bound at all. However, even in md5sum case, I/O was high too, the disk light was on all the time. May be it was the case for CPU speed difference. But as far as file system performance goes, the overhead should be identical for both the runs, no? Besides, I need to run the comparison(rather verification of file contents) many times over during the application life-cycle and I cannot afford to bring in another copy from disk. The working set is expected to be 30-40GB at a time, 3GB is just test setup. With md5sum, I can store it in database and verify it on one copy only. And finally, it is terrible on timings. Running md5sum is lot faster, about 3 times in the best case. shrid...@bheem /mnt1/shridhar/tmp/importtest.big$ time for i in `find . -type f`;do cmp $i /data/shridhar/tmp/4/$i;done real21m30.137s user0m27.665s sys 1m21.581s shrid...@bheem /data/shridhar/tmp/4$ time for i in `find . -type f`;do cmp $i /mnt1/shridhar/tmp/importtest.big/$i;done real6m26.988s user0m40.721s sys 1m28.371s shrid...@bheem /mnt1/shridhar/tmp/importtest.big$ time for i in `find . -type f`;do cmp $i /data/shridhar/tmp/4/$i;done real16m27.541s user0m37.281s sys 1m23.995s So when the source file system is btrfs, it is still couple of times faster at least. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Security
On Friday 12 March 2010 19:26:13 Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:49:17 - schrieb Gordon Campbell gordy2...@hotmail.co.uk: I am new to this list and fairly new to Arch Linux. My Question is do I need to install a firewall? if so which one? ufw is a good iptables frontend. Pretty easy to set up HTH -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] Btrfs more than twice as fast compared to ext4
Hi, Just wanted to share an interesting experience I had today. Check http://ghodechhap.net/btrfs.performance.txt -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] attempting to build firefox-qt
Subject: attempting to build firefox-qt Date: Tuesday 09 March 2010, 15:40:55 From: Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net To: arch-dev-pub...@archlinux.org Hello, I am interested in building firefox with Qt. Following directions from https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Pjohnsen/MozillaQtBuild, I updated the pkgbuild /mozconfig and created the package. Problem is the resulting firefox package does not link against qt at all. Even a running firefox process does not have any Qt dependencies. There are also xul related errors in the makepkg log. The makepkg log is available at http://ghodechhap.net/firefox-qt.makepkg.log. Any help to make it work is greatly appreciated. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] A good twitter client
On Sunday 07 March 2010 13:08:42 christopher floess wrote: On 03/07/2010 03:15 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know a good twitter client for KDE apart from Firefox's echofon, Chromed Bird (I don't use GChrome), and KDE μblog ? Twitgin sucks if you have to many tweets from people you're following and that's my case. I'm using mitter. It's gtk though, and I tend to think it's not that feature rich, but I'm not sure because I don't use the twitter features. What happened to kde twitter widget? I cannot find it anymore in the list of widgets. Following claims that it is still available with 4.4. It is not available online either. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6978/1/ http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6978/1/ -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Something is seriously wrong with FlashPlugin; makes chrome firefox crash like crazy
On Sunday 07 March 2010 20:54:24 Gaurish Sharma wrote: Hi, My CPU is Intel E5300.AKAIK, lahf only applies to AMD athlon 64 line of chips. Plus, flash earlier used to work but this crashing has started about 2-3weeks back. anyone else having similar issues I am running a E7400 with flashplugin 10.0.45.2-1. No issues at all. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Unable to upgrade
On Sunday 21 February 2010 04:35:51 Heiko Baums wrote: Btw., I don't see any good reasons why developers of proprietary software couldn't build x86_64 packages. They should only need to compile their software a second time. Assuming the software is 64 bit clean. Thats a lot to assume! -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Kde upgrade ?phonon/qt?
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 14:39:53 richard terry wrote: # pacman -Sy --asdeps qt :: qtscriptgenerator: requires phonon How about removing qtscriptgenerator before doing this? You can install it after your upgrade is complete. HTH -- Regards Shridhar
[arch-general] Keeping multiple machines in sync. and updated [Re: A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds]
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 08:35:14 Mauro Santos wrote: Currently for my personal use I don't want anything else other than Arch but for machines that have more users and _need_ to keep working I'm using centos (devs I'm sorry to hinder your world domination plans but I think I'm not competent enough to manage Arch on a server so better use something that in theory will give me less surprises). There are multiple issues at work here - updateing multiple machines automatically, possibly from one master copy. e.g. I have 3 desktop machines out of which I use 2 regularly and I have to spend sometime upgrading even if the cache is shared. - for server install minimal is better and arch can be tweaked down to bare minimum necessary. - testing for upgrades. I think something like linux containers would be handy here to upgrade things and test. If the multiple sync. method is available, then things can be easily synced. to-and-from. Kernle upgrades are the only exception. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 08:32:04 Brendan Long wrote: On 02/08/2010 07:50 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: One very simple solution would be to never delete anything named /usr/lib/*.so* unless you really have to. That requires one regexp match. A hack, not perfect but it would help. Ciao, Except then you'd annoy everyone who wants their package manager to work properly. When I update a package I expect it to clean up after itself. +1 Lets say I keep old libraries around outside packman(because pacman ignored them as per the proposal), who and when are they going to be cleaned up? My /usr/lib is 1.6G. If it is not cleaned up, it would baloon in less then 3 months enough to make LFS an attractive choice. Its simple. Update complete system once -or-twice a month. Its ok if you upgrade/install individual apps as needed. But a complete upgrade keeps the system clean and I love that about arch. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] kde44beta - 'virtuoso -t' grabbing ~80% of the CPU every few minutes
On Friday 05 February 2010 14:08:11 David C. Rankin wrote: Looking at the processes, it is 'virtuoso -t' that is to blame. Can anyone else confirm this behavior ... and .. does anyone know of a workaround? Disble nepomuk? -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] kde44beta - 'virtuoso -t' grabbing ~80% of the CPU every few minutes
On Friday 05 February 2010 18:48:15 David C. Rankin wrote: Thanks Shridhar, I know how to do that. Nepomuk has been working fine in the past versions of 4.3.4, but now it seems that virtuoso isn't behaving properly. Are you seeing this problem as well? I haven't upgraded yet. The machine is work critical and I am holding the upgrades for couple of weeks. I am not used to nepomuk and do fine without a desktop search. So I always disable it. So I advised the same :) -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and security - it needs some work
On Wednesday 03 February 2010 12:56:57 Robert Howard wrote: suppose my problem with all the Arch security/insecurity talk is that it assumes that Arch users are not more than capable of reading lists and discovering bug and holes in software that we use daily. I don't think there has ever been an issue with an Arch package that wasn't fixed as soon as upstream made a fix available. We can't expect our small community to fix upstream bugs and issues. Moreover, the effort should be spent on addressing distribution specific shortcomings. Just my two cents. +1. Thats why I am still subscribed to slackware security announcment, just for cross-check. So far it hasn't mattered :) I think the issue for arch is not patching, that is already as good as it gets but configuration. Hardened kernel + user space, multiple available kernels, such as RBAC,gresec etc. I guess the demand is simply not too great. I filed a request for smack inclusion some time back and it was attempted too but it did not play well with some other things. I guess it will take some time before it is mature enough. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Server Space for Arch Downloads / AUR / ABS for small X additions the Arch Community might enjoy?
On Wednesday 03 February 2010 12:31:13 David C. Rankin wrote: I have several good collections of miscellaneous kde themes, kdm/gdm themes, metacity, gtk-2, xcursors, etc.. that I would like to find how best to contribute them to the community. The color-schemes, gnome and kde layout are original and the are available from gnome-look, kde-look, etc. (all GPL), but given all the 3rd party redirection that those sites put you through to find any given file, it is almost not worth downloading them anymore one-at-a-time (same applies to many of the other 'now commercialized' sites). If this is something that you guys may be interested in, my main question is I don't know whether it would be better to put them together as several AUR package, ABS package or whether Arch has a place for this type of stuff. I generally just make them available on my server at 3111skyline.com, but I'm limited to 384k upstream so putting a bunch of material out for community wide download can result in logjams. The idea here is to just make it convenient for Arch users to have a convenient couple of packages to install to get a good cross-section of some of the better desktop packages themes, cursors, etc.. that are a real pain to go search for, find and download separately. Why don't you host a repo? I can host a subdomain at dreamhost for you if you want. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Prelink/Preload
On Monday 01 February 2010 16:09:08 solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: prelink modifies binary and library to ... prelink ;-) them. during the days of kde 3 I noticed a significant improvement in loading time of applications. I have dropped its use (prelink ... and kde3) because some recent binutils(or gcc or i don't remember) feature is supposed to do almost the same thing [ref. needed] A long time back(seems like eternity) I wrote a small post describing GNU hash options in linker at http://dhoomketu.net.in/node/34. I cannot find the spec file in the arch GCC package anymore but the binaries do contain GNU hash section. Just run readelf on any binary, like /bin/ls and look for .gnu.hash. If the gcc package forces linker option to be GNU hash style only(I don't know how to verify this on arch), it could achieve the speed improvement and reduce the binary size somewhat as well. I guess most of that is already used by now except for forcing the GNU hash- style only. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] how to Map shortcut keys in KDE4.3 to lunch custom Applications?
On Thursday 28 January 2010 03:42:27 Gaurish Sharma wrote: I was able to launch Amarok via the extra media key present on my keyboard. been using the exact same method for speedcrunch, it does not work :( Pl. follow these steps and tell us if it worked. - Go to system settings - input actions - right click on an empty space in the left side pane, select new group, give it a name. There is a box on right hand side of that tree, that is a checkbox, enable/check it. - right click on the newly created tree node, select new - global shortcut - command/URL. A similar node will be created, name it and enable it as above - Click on the newly created node, fill in action and the shortcut - click apply. I repeated same steps exactly and managed to map ksudoku to Ctrl+U. HTH -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] how to Map shortcut keys in KDE4.3 to lunch custom Applications?
On Tuesday 26 January 2010 14:46:03 Gaurish Sharma wrote: How to map Custom Keyboard Shortcuts to launch custom Application on KDE4.3? Add custom input actions from system settings. First add a new group and then new actions under it. Special keys should not conflict with existing shortcuts but kde shortcuts are GUI equivalent of ls options. Almost every possible one is already taken. -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] how to Map shortcut keys in KDE4.3 to lunch custom Applications?
On Tuesday 26 January 2010 19:57:26 Gaurish Sharma wrote: Hi, A Rojas and Shridhar Daithankar, I tried your suggest and mapped the shortcut key to launch speedcrunch but it does not work :) * Screenshots: http://www.imagebam.com/image/29bf3765418046 http://www.imagebam.com/image/69c59c65418047 http://www.imagebam.com/image/ea6b1b65418049 http://www.imagebam.com/image/50ed2c65418050 any idea what exactly is wrong? Tried creating a new group in input actions? You don't have to change anything in global shortcuts. Everything is to be done from input actions. Its tricky and I didn't get it right for quite some time. The UI is not intuitive :) -- Regards Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 22:21:19 David C. Rankin wrote: On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs: (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox even with 2.6.32.3, I had to recomile virtualbox module. I tried to start a VM and system froze solid and had to do hard reset. With a recompile, its working though. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4 -1 [ Possible Problems... ]
On Thursday 21 January 2010 00:50:22 David C. Rankin wrote: On 01/20/2010 11:28 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: On Wednesday 20 January 2010 22:21:19 David C. Rankin wrote: On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs: (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox even with 2.6.32.3, I had to recomile virtualbox module. I tried to start a VM and system froze solid and had to do hard reset. With a recompile, its working though. Are you talking about recompile of the vbox module, that I just did, or are you talking about a kernel recompile? vbox module recompile. It fixed the issue on 2.6.32-3 but from your post it seems, it is not sufficient for 2.6.32-4. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Adding new partition to system from unpartitioned space - any reason to not use ext4??
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 21:57:04 Christos Nouskas wrote: Kind of late response, but I strongly agree with Thomas. I've had my share of truncated files after unclean shutdowns (every single time), some kernel modules being among the victims. If you decide to decide to use ext4, then it's almost mandatory to use the 'nodelalloc' mount option, unless you're positive that unclean shutdowns are unlikely in your setup or you don't care about lost data. Isn't that option auto_da_alloc? -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] gmail and mailing list
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 01:55:40 Patrick Brisbin wrote: I've mine set to yes as well but I still don't get my own posts. Oh well, mutt to the rescue again: # cc myself when replying to an ML # note: with this, you can't :q! mid-compose to abort # instead, just :wq and abort from the compose menu unhook send-hook send-hook ~u push 'edit-cc,pbris...@gmail.comenter' Inspired from gmail conversations that include my own replies, I have set the sent-mail folder to the inbox itself, in the kmail. Now everything is properly threaded including my own replies. Not to mention I don't have to maintain sentmail anymore. -- Shridhar
[arch-general] Low volume for kopete notifications
Hello All, I got a new computer and installed arch on it. I have restored my home directory from other machine, which has lived thr. kde3 - kde4 transition and isn't exactly prestine. This is core2duo machine and the soundcard is 82801G HDA, as reported by lspci. I don't have pulseaudio installed. Jack is installed but not running. Phonon backend is gstreamer. Everything is working fine but there is a strange behaviour. Volume of kopete notification is very low. I am surprised that it even has a different volume than normal. Furthermore kopete has no way to set this volume, even though I can set the tone/music for it. Sound test in KDE settings runs fine in notifications and music category(how to set them for applications and how do they matter anyways?). Also moc(a console mp3 player) is working fine.( I had to resort to moc since juk doesn't output any sound at all. That is another issue but I don't mind moc) Creating a new user isn't an option since I have tons of settings/data customized and can't leave it all behind. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?
On Friday 04 December 2009 08:08:03 Arvid Picciani wrote: Ng Oon-Ee wrote: What does upstream have to say about this dependency? Does not seem 'necessary' to me http://blogs.igalia.com/itoral/2006/03/30/adding-dbus-support-to-gedit/ priceless finding. let me sum up: - There is feature X which works very well - He discovered it doesn't use dbus. - He starts work on a very complicated patch that makes it use dbus. more OT Why would gedit need to support dbus? AFAIK, KDE supports these things in kdelibs and everybody on top just has everything kdelibs support say new kio slaves. one more reason not to use gnome. for dbus, IMO it just adds a protocol on top of it. Warranted or not aside, XML is not unixy enough anyways. My prediction is world would reinvent CORBA functionally and would refuse to call/recognise it as such. It will be only a decade late. DCOP was invented by KDE because CORBA was too heavy locally(at least thats a technical reason). dbus is succesor of dcop because gnome couldn't use dcop. I hate gnome for the ideas it represents. Application foo got y pixel spacing between icons can't be a feature item in relase in 200x. Its just sad design. /more OT -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Problem updating system
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 14:46:58 Ty John wrote: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:41:05 +0530 Shridhar Daithankar ghodech...@ghodechhap.net wrote: Any ideas? If 'pacman -Syyu' doesn't work, then try changing the mirror. While I go on trying, could you please post your working mirror-list? That would be some good sample to start with. Thanks -- Shridhar
[arch-general] Problem updating system
Hello All, I am having trouble doing a system upgrade. --- r...@presario pacman.d]# pacman -Sy :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date [r...@presario pacman.d]# pacman -Su :: Starting full system upgrade... local database is up to date --- Following is my /etc/pacman.conf --- [options] HoldPkg=pacman glibc SyncFirst=pacman [core] #Include=/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Server=ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 [extra] #Include=/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Server=ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 [community] #Include=/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Server=ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64 --- The mirror is updated on nov 29, according to https://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html but I have not updated the system since nove 16-18(somtime that week). I followed into http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=660210, and forced a package refresh but of no use. Any ideas? -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] usable browser?
On Friday 27 November 2009 09:59:55 Ian-Xue Li wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:51:36 +0100 Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: - no webkit ( i need to visit non w3c compliant sites ) - no gecko ( i don't have a raid11 in my laptop ) - no opera ( i hate popups ) - no chrome ( unusable buggy ) Is it mandatory to have one browser only? for sake of security, I would use a separate browser for banking and another one for the rest. I do some web development professionally and have everything from firefox to konqueror/arora/rekonq available and use it as required. My current working combo is rekonq as far as possible and firefox if required. Rekonq does not play flash(dunno why, konqueror plays) is another big plus in my book. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] MUA
On Tuesday 17 November 2009 22:37:08 Arvid Picciani wrote: Mutt grows old and still doesn't do threads the way i want. i've tried sup, but find it too early in development. Especcially it is unusable slow. Can somone recommend another MUA? kmail. Using for last 5+ years with no real complaints.. -- Shridhar
[arch-general] file system capabilities
Hi, I was reading thr. /. commentary on the latest linux kernel bug, got drifted into file system capabilities. and got this, (from http://lwn.net/Articles/313838/) [r...@presario shridhar]# ls -la /bin/ping -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33360 2008-10-04 17:48 /bin/ping [r...@presario shridhar]# chmod u-s /bin/ping [r...@presario shridhar]# setcap cap_net_raw=ep /bin/ping [r...@presario shridhar]# ls -al /bin/ping -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33360 2008-10-04 17:48 /bin/ping [r...@presario shridhar]# exit shrid...@presario ~$ ping 192.168.1.5 PING 192.168.1.5 (192.168.1.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.354 ms ^C --- 192.168.1.5 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.219/0.286/0.354/0.069 ms so can this be done by default? thus reducing setuid usage? it should improve security right? -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] We have lost the desktop war. The reason? Windows 7.
On Monday 26 October 2009 19:25:09 Lars Tennstedt wrote: I suggest the opposite in the facts of speed. My work's computer runs with Windows XP and the hardware is faster than mine at home. But Windows XP often stands still without a reason and takes ages to do something. KDE 4.3 on my Arch Linux installation runs very well and fast. I guess that it depends on the hardware you use. But I would say that the enterprise linux distributions should use KDE 3.5 and GNOME 2.28 in the nearly future. In such an area with installations on many machines things just have to work and Plasma and GNOME Shell are too new. If KDE is too slow for you, use Xfce or LXDE. I do not miss anything under Xfce. And if you want to use Windows 7, use it. At the moment linux has little percentage on the desktop market. I am writing this for sole reason that silence of a satisfied linux user should not be taken as absence of one. I am a happy arch and KDE user and use windows XP only as much forced by the work. I don't know about vista. Rarely seen it in action. These are my opinions and not conclusions. Just adding a data point here. - KDE is hugely productive. Multiple desktop(it already had for ages but mentioned for comparison with XP), plethora of applets(plasma widgets lately), kopete, kmail, akregator, knews, kate, konsole, k3b and konqueror. It is so much ahead of windows that its not even the same race. Not to mention, each of these apps have innovation on its own that are hard to rival. - I was happy with KDE 3.5.x(on slack and arch) and upgraded to KDE4 just along the way. KDE4.1/4.2 were not upto the par but KDE4.3 is on par with KDE3.5.x for me. - I don't need any eye-candy on KDE and I have turned it off. Even though I have functioning nvidia drivers, I want my desktop fast, not animating and I am happy with that speed. Frankly I have not found any plasma widget worth keeping on desktop(I don't get to see the desktop anyways. Its always covered with some app). But I am a konsole geek. I could go alone with kate/konsole except email/IM/webbrowsing needs. - I couldn't change to GNOME. I hate it. File open dialog is lame compared to KDE. I don't know what virtues peole see in it. That is only one reason another is button order(third is GTK. C for desktop? Not for me and no mono please.). I could stand a half working KDE but not GNOME. - To people advocating lightweight options, Don't you lose what *KDE* offers? Instead of putting together a solution yourself, isn't it much better to use a solution that is put together already? Use xfce, throw in firefox and openoffice and its hardly any different from KDE+openoffice. Throw in thunderbird and pidgin and one begins to wonder whats the point? Is the dekstop really that lean now? Besides, throw in one KDE app. because its irresistible(kmail, kopete, k3b?) and again, one might as well run KDE. - Huge win for KDE is consistency. Whatever speed KDE desktop loads today, it will load with same speed 3 months down the line and 3 years down the line(I can attest that. My home directory has remains of mandrake 7 till date. Upgraded and moved from machine to machine). Windows will not. - I don't like nepomuk/strigi/akonadi and its off on my desktop. Thats more to do with hatred of mysql than these technologies itself. I won't let my desktop depend on mysql. Period. Come postgresql support and I will give it a go. Besides I don't have time to tag 10s of thousand of photos that I already have and every download from digital camera is at least 150 photos. - on point of desktop war, KDE is not fighting with windows but windows ecosystem. What does vanilla windows offer compared to KDE anyways? freecell and solitaire? Where is google messenger? where is an up to date browser? where is yahoo messenger? where is a good console? where are tons of utilities? Again, KDE is not fighting with windows. Its fighting with an echo- system. - for browser, I dabbled with lot of them and here is simple conclusion. The web is too fluid. There is no single app that can render it well, now and in future. And the whole web2.0 is a non-sense, at least functionally. So I have konqueror for regular browsing(no serious site breaks in it for me.) and firefox for occasions when its needed. Usually if it does not render well in konqueror, I bypass the site and not the browser. - use windows and you have to format/reinstall to upgrade. You realize how much productivity hit that is? It is impossible to get back all the small tweaks that one has accumulated over the period of time. Besides isn't that like last century? With arch we upgrade every month, if not more and don't have any problems. I am happy with linux desktop for long time, since 2001 and haven't had windows since then. The war is over. Neo won :) -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Opinion: What do you think about Lenovo IdeaPad Y450?
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 03:01:54 Guilherme M. Nogueira wrote: So I was wondering if any of you has one, or has another Lenovo laptop and your opinions about it. I plan on using it with arch only. I use a compaq F733 laptop(I think that model does not ship anymore. Bought last april). It has nvidia graphics. Everything works except certain combination of kernel/nvidia keep breaking suspend. Somewhere since last oct to this april, I had to shutdown/reboot the laptop(no problem, except time wasted.) Now with 2.6.30, suspend/resume is working fine. Lets see what 2.6.32 brings :) And yes, it is exclusively arch and my work machine. I depend upon it. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] btrfs supported on archlinux
Hi, On Tuesday 08 September 2009 08:58:21 Laszlo Papp wrote: I'm just interested in when will btrfs filesystem be supported in archlinux in the official repository and on livecd ? It's available now from AUR some related packages, the stable releases can be seen here: http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Stable_releases Isn't this already supported? $ zgrep -i btrfs /proc/config.gz CONFIG_BTRFS_FS=m CONFIG_BTRFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y $ uname -a Linux presario 2.6.30-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 31 07:30:28 CEST 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-57 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Also see http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22578 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15635 -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
2) Dolphin - I really liked konqueror - can one still install this as a file browser. I note there is a kdebase-konqueror package, using this multiple 'file exists in the filesystem' messages I could use a force but god knows what this will trash. Any alternatives. I'm using konqueror for web browsing, and from times to times as a ftp browser. konqueror is still working, and can still open folder. But I can't find out how to tell to KDE that I wanna konqueror as default file browser. System Setting - Default Applications - File manager. I changed it but it still launched dolphin. I think the menu needs to be edited for that. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Add phonon-xine to KDE deps?
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 11:56:13 Manne Merak wrote: Edgar Kalkowski wrote: Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven- Hendrik Haase: Hey, I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok. Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings - multimedia - audio output - * -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Add phonon-xine to KDE deps?
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:22:34 Allan McRae wrote: Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings - multimedia - audio output - * Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you wanted to play? Yes I think. $ pacman -Qs gstreamer local/gstreamer0.10 0.10.23-1 GStreamer Multimedia Framework local/gstreamer0.10-base 0.10.23-1 GStreamer Multimedia Framework Base plugin libraries local/gstreamer0.10-base-plugins 0.10.23-2 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) GStreamer Multimedia Framework Base Plugins (gst-plugins-base) However doing pacman -Ss gstreamer isn't exactly friendly. What exactly good, bad and ugly plugins mean? Do I need ffmpeg plugins for mp3? FWIW, can we just default to xine backend? I don't know much about either of them but one of them got sound and other one didn't. I hope thats not a too- stupid of a request. -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] The vsftpd only starts at the second attempt
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 11:45:55 Lucas Salies Brum wrote: can you start vsftpd manually? Yes! (r...@abraham lucas):$ vsftpd (r...@abraham lucas):$ ps -A | grep vsftpd 7934 ?00:00:00 vsftpd Can you try strace the process? How? in the example above, strace -p 7934 -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] News item: vc/* to tty* transition
On Thursday 23 July 2009 18:55:40 Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: (*) Some users can do a hot-update the whole KDE/GNOME while running and intend to continue working properly. ;) I don't expect it to work as such but being too lazy to leave current working env. just for upgrade, I have done pacman -Syu from within konsole, that have upgraded KDE and it has worked. Usually that follows the an immediate reboot due to kernel/glibc upgrade so its a not pressing all the aspects of KDE probably.. Exceeding expectations I think :) -- Shridhar
