Re: Haupauge TV card failed on kernel 6.5.2-arch1-1

2023-09-11 Thread pete
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:33:07 +0200
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Mon, 2023-09-11 at 13:22 +0200, Bjoern Franke wrote:
> > > Thanks  yes it has changed so much  from the old days of early Suse
>
> Hi,
>
> assuming you didn't build RPM packages, it's still more or less the
> same, especially if you use an Arch config, so that you don't need to
> care about the configuration by yourself. I just glanced over the Wiki,
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel/Traditional_compilation , unless
> I'm missing it, it doesn't mention the patch command, but patch usage
> didn't change at all.
>
> Building an Arch package is described by the Arch Wiki, too. You can
> build a new package by more or less only doing copy and paste,
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel/Arch_build_system .
>
> The last kernel package I build was an apt package for linux 6.2.9 on
> Xubuntu. The only pitfall with 6+ kernels might be RAM. I read about RAM
> space issues even when not building in tmpfs. At least I didn't run into
> an issue with 32 GiB of RAM, when building the 6.2.9 kernel not in
> tmpfs.
>
> > You can also use "downgrade" to downgrade to the last working 6.5.x
> > kernel and put it into IgnorePkg.
>
> This is a good idea. Btw. "downgrade" is provided by the chaotic-aur
> repository,
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/unofficial_user_repositories .
>
> After installing downgrade you only need to run
>
>sudo downgrade linux linux-docs linux-headers
>
> and select the desired packages from the lists. It seems to have a new
> interface. Providing the package lists is a little bit delayed on my
> machine now.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf

Hi Ralf

Thanks i may well get tempted to try rolling my own again  it was something i
used to do more than once a day at one time  time to wake the old grey cells up
 i will read up on the Wiki  .

I miss not having my tv card working


Cheers Pete


Re: Haupauge TV card failed on kernel 6.5.2-arch1-1

2023-09-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2023-09-11 at 13:22 +0200, Bjoern Franke wrote:
> > Thanks  yes it has changed so much  from the old days of early Suse

Hi,

assuming you didn't build RPM packages, it's still more or less the
same, especially if you use an Arch config, so that you don't need to
care about the configuration by yourself. I just glanced over the Wiki,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel/Traditional_compilation , unless
I'm missing it, it doesn't mention the patch command, but patch usage
didn't change at all.

Building an Arch package is described by the Arch Wiki, too. You can
build a new package by more or less only doing copy and paste,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel/Arch_build_system .

The last kernel package I build was an apt package for linux 6.2.9 on
Xubuntu. The only pitfall with 6+ kernels might be RAM. I read about RAM
space issues even when not building in tmpfs. At least I didn't run into
an issue with 32 GiB of RAM, when building the 6.2.9 kernel not in
tmpfs.

> You can also use "downgrade" to downgrade to the last working 6.5.x 
> kernel and put it into IgnorePkg.

This is a good idea. Btw. "downgrade" is provided by the chaotic-aur
repository,
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/unofficial_user_repositories .

After installing downgrade you only need to run

   sudo downgrade linux linux-docs linux-headers

and select the desired packages from the lists. It seems to have a new
interface. Providing the package lists is a little bit delayed on my
machine now.

Regards,
Ralf


Re: Haupauge TV card failed on kernel 6.5.2-arch1-1

2023-09-11 Thread Bjoern Franke

Hi,



Hi Ralf .

Thanks  yes it has changed so much  from the old days of early Suse  and before
  i will wait a bit then maybe drop back  , i have never run an LTS kernel  we
  will see

thanks   pete


You can also use "downgrade" to downgrade to the last working 6.5.x 
kernel and put it into IgnorePkg.


Regards


Re: Haupauge TV card failed on kernel 6.5.2-arch1-1

2023-09-11 Thread pete
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 02:21:17 +0200
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Mon, 2023-09-11 at 00:29 +0100, pete wrote:
> > There was a time when i would have dived straight in when you had to cook
> > your own Kernels but not done it for years so i will wait  . Pity because
> > it is my Tv as well as computer .
> 
> Hi,
> 
> if you haven't dealt with Arch kernel PKGBUILDs for a while, then the
> sources are a bit confusing [1] ;). It's not that KISS in the sense of
> transparency as the old PKGBUILDs with sources directly from upstream
> and patches included to the tarball, but that's just my opinion.
> 
> However, maybe linux-lts [2] is able to temporarily workaround the issue
> for you.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 
> [1]
> source=(
>  
> "$_srcname::git+https://github.com/archlinux/linux?signed#tag=$_srctag";
>   config  # the main kernel config file
> 
> [2]
> https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux-lts/

Hi Ralf .

Thanks  yes it has changed so much  from the old days of early Suse  and before
 i will wait a bit then maybe drop back  , i have never run an LTS kernel  we
 will see 

thanks   pete