Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Unpublished records and OAI

2021-08-05 Thread Andy Boze
As an example, here's an OAI request for a record that was previously 
published and is currently unpublished. I would expect the header to 
indicate that the record is deleted rather than giving an error.


< 
https://archivesspace.library.nd.edu/oai?verb=GetRecord=oai:und//repositories/2/resources/1541=oai_ead 
>


When published, the record was harvested into our discovery system, but 
now that the record has been unpublished, our discovery system still 
contains the record.


Andy

On 8/5/21 12:38 PM, Majewski, Steven Dennis (sdm7g) wrote:


I’ve definitely seen deletions logged in my EAD OAI harvests, however, I 
haven’t tried to trace what actions are connected with those deletions or how 
it handles unpublishing portions or archival objects.
I would suppose that it should update the EAD on the next harvest dropping the 
unpublished content, and a deletion only occurs when the top level resource is 
unpublished, but I can’t confirm that is does what I assume it should.
( I would have to set up some test instances, as for most of the sites I’m 
harvesting from, I can’t view resources in the staff interface to check against 
the OAI harvest. )


— Steve.


On Aug 5, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Andy Boze  wrote:

Hi, all.

I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to the expected behavior of unpublished, put previously 
published, records and OAI harvest. In the documentation at < 
https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/architecture/oai-pmh/ >, it states 
"Unpublished and suppressed records and elements are not included in any of the OAI-PMH 
responses."

We've tested that, and it works as described; however, if a published record is harvested, then 
the record is unpublished, should a subsequent harvest indicate that the record has been 
deleted? If not, then any system that has harvested the record will retain it. From what I can 
tell, ASpace does not send an OAI deleted status for records that become unpublished, which 
seems contrary to information I found at < 
https://www.openarchives.org/OAI/openarchivesprotocol.html#DeletedRecords >, "[i]f a 
record is no longer available then it is said to be deleted."

Does anyone have any thoughts? Is there possibly an OAI setting I've missed? 
Thanks!

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University of Notre Dame
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Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Unpublished records and OAI

2021-08-05 Thread Majewski, Steven Dennis (sdm7g)

I’ve definitely seen deletions logged in my EAD OAI harvests, however, I 
haven’t tried to trace what actions are connected with those deletions or how 
it handles unpublishing portions or archival objects. 
I would suppose that it should update the EAD on the next harvest dropping the 
unpublished content, and a deletion only occurs when the top level resource is 
unpublished, but I can’t confirm that is does what I assume it should. 
( I would have to set up some test instances, as for most of the sites I’m 
harvesting from, I can’t view resources in the staff interface to check against 
the OAI harvest. ) 


— Steve. 

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Andy Boze  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to the expected behavior of 
> unpublished, put previously published, records and OAI harvest. In the 
> documentation at < 
> https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/architecture/oai-pmh/ >, it states 
> "Unpublished and suppressed records and elements are not included in any of 
> the OAI-PMH responses."
> 
> We've tested that, and it works as described; however, if a published record 
> is harvested, then the record is unpublished, should a subsequent harvest 
> indicate that the record has been deleted? If not, then any system that has 
> harvested the record will retain it. From what I can tell, ASpace does not 
> send an OAI deleted status for records that become unpublished, which seems 
> contrary to information I found at < 
> https://www.openarchives.org/OAI/openarchivesprotocol.html#DeletedRecords >, 
> "[i]f a record is no longer available then it is said to be deleted."
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts? Is there possibly an OAI setting I've missed? 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Andy Boze, Associate Librarian
> University of Notre Dame
> 271H Hesburgh Library
> (574) 631-8708
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[Archivesspace_Users_Group] Unpublished records and OAI

2021-08-05 Thread Andy Boze

Hi, all.

I'm hoping someone can enlighten me as to the expected behavior of 
unpublished, put previously published, records and OAI harvest. In the 
documentation at < 
https://archivesspace.github.io/tech-docs/architecture/oai-pmh/ >, it 
states "Unpublished and suppressed records and elements are not included 
in any of the OAI-PMH responses."


We've tested that, and it works as described; however, if a published 
record is harvested, then the record is unpublished, should a subsequent 
harvest indicate that the record has been deleted? If not, then any 
system that has harvested the record will retain it. From what I can 
tell, ASpace does not send an OAI deleted status for records that become 
unpublished, which seems contrary to information I found at < 
https://www.openarchives.org/OAI/openarchivesprotocol.html#DeletedRecords 
>, "[i]f a record is no longer available then it is said to be deleted."


Does anyone have any thoughts? Is there possibly an OAI setting I've 
missed? Thanks!


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Andy Boze, Associate Librarian
University of Notre Dame
271H Hesburgh Library
(574) 631-8708
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