Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-21: Reserved Pool Replenishment

2019-12-27 Thread David Farmer
On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 12:01 PM John Curran  wrote:

> On 26 Dec 2019, at 10:25 PM, David Farmer  wrote:
>
>
> Responses are inline;
>
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 6:38 PM Fernando Frediani 
> wrote:
>
>> There are two points to analyze in this proposal:
>>
>> - Any returned, reclaimed or revoked addresses that belong originally to
>> the reserved pools to be returned to them. I think this was pretty
>> obvious and was already done this way and wouldn't be necessary to state
>> it again. Could the author show that this is not the way it is currently
>> done then I am fine to support this part.
>>
>
> I'm not sure how ARIN staff does this now. However, if this is what we
> want, it is usually better for it to be clearly stated in the policy.
>
>
> Blocks designated as special use are put back in whichever pool they
> belong to, 4.4 or 4.10, respectively.
>

Thanks for clarifying.


> It is certainly the case that if you wanted ARIN to do something different
> than that, the alternative would need to be clearly spelt out in policy –
> the highly obvious nature of returning blocks to their special pools
> doesn’t necessarily require any specification in policy, unless it is being
> done to avoid having such blocks inadvertently become subject to new policy
> language.
>

If this policy doesn't gain consensus, I don't think it is necessary to put
the first sentence into policy separately, I agree it is a fairly obvious
thing to do. However, having it included in this policy makes it abundantly
clear that the second sentence doesn't somehow apply the resources
originally allocated from the 4.4 or 4.10 pools.  Further, the second
sentence, as written, applies to "any other resource", and that phrasing
wouldn't make much sense without the first sentence.

Thanks.


> Thanks!
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
>
>

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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-21: Reserved Pool Replenishment

2019-12-27 Thread John Curran
On 26 Dec 2019, at 10:25 PM, David Farmer 
mailto:far...@umn.edu>> wrote:

Responses are inline;

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 6:38 PM Fernando Frediani 
mailto:fhfredi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There are two points to analyze in this proposal:

- Any returned, reclaimed or revoked addresses that belong originally to
the reserved pools to be returned to them. I think this was pretty
obvious and was already done this way and wouldn't be necessary to state
it again. Could the author show that this is not the way it is currently
done then I am fine to support this part.

I'm not sure how ARIN staff does this now. However, if this is what we want, it 
is usually better for it to be clearly stated in the policy.

Blocks designated as special use are put back in whichever pool they belong to, 
4.4 or 4.10, respectively.

It is certainly the case that if you wanted ARIN to do something different than 
that, the alternative would need to be clearly spelt out in policy – the highly 
obvious nature of returning blocks to their special pools doesn’t necessarily 
require any specification in policy, unless it is being done to avoid having 
such blocks inadvertently become subject to new policy language.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


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