Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description

2020-12-23 Thread Brian Jones
Yes, the names of the RIR's in the expanded test portion is what I meant.

+1 more coffee for me to...
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:00 AM Joe Provo  wrote:

> Derp, you mean the names of the RIRs in the new expanded text.
> That sounds like a good suggestion to me!
>
> Joe, needing more coffee
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 10:59:07AM -0500, Joe Provo wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 08:55:34AM -0500, Brian Jones wrote:
> > > I support ARIN-2020-11 with one suggestion. Spell out what RIR stands
> for
> > > similar to the way IANA and ISP are spelled out to increase clarity and
> > > understandability.
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > The image in question is in the header of Section 2.
> > If you have a suggestion to improve the RIR definition in
> > Section 2.2 (
> >
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#2-2-regional-internet-registry-rir
> > ), can you be more specific?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 5:20 PM ARIN  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 17 December 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced
> > > > "ARIN-prop-295: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual
> Description"
> > > > to Draft Policy.
> > > >
> > > > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11 is below and can be found at:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_11/
> > > >
> > > > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> > > > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this
> draft
> > > > policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
> stated
> > > > in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
> principles are:
> > > >
> > > > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > > > * Technically Sound
> > > > * Supported by the Community
> > > >
> > > > The PDP can be found at:
> > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> > > >
> > > > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Sean Hopkins
> > > > Policy Analyst
> > > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a
> Textual
> > > > Description
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Problem Statement:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The beginning of Section 2 in the NRPM shows a diagram of how
> addressing
> > > > responsibility is delegated. However, this image does not appear to
> have a
> > > > description or even alt text, and the actual text is not selectable.
> This
> > > > could have accessibility implications, especially for blind people,
> if the
> > > > NRPM is converted to plain text, or if the NRPM is translated into
> another
> > > > language.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Policy Statement:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Proposal:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Replace the lead section of Section 2 with the following:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Responsibility for management of address spaces is distributed
> globally in
> > > > accordance with the following procedures:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Global address space management is performed by the Internet
> Assigned
> > > > Numbers Authority (IANA). IANA distributes address space to RIRs
> (AfriNIC,
> > > > APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, and the RIPE NCC), but not directly to ISPs or
> end
> > > > users.
> > > >
> > > > - RIRs, such as ARIN, distribute address space to Internet Service
> > > > Providers (ISPs) and directly to end-user organizations.
> > > >
> > > > - ISPs may further delegate address space to other ISPs, as well as
> to
> > > > other end-user organizations.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Timetable for implementation: Immediate.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description

2020-12-23 Thread Joe Provo
Derp, you mean the names of the RIRs in the new expanded text. 
That sounds like a good suggestion to me!

Joe, needing more coffee

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 10:59:07AM -0500, Joe Provo wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 08:55:34AM -0500, Brian Jones wrote:
> > I support ARIN-2020-11 with one suggestion. Spell out what RIR stands for
> > similar to the way IANA and ISP are spelled out to increase clarity and
> > understandability.
> 
> Brian,
> 
> The image in question is in the header of Section 2. 
> If you have a suggestion to improve the RIR definition in
> Section 2.2 (
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#2-2-regional-internet-registry-rir
> ), can you be more specific?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Joe
> 
> > Brian
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 5:20 PM ARIN  wrote:
> > 
> > > On 17 December 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced
> > > "ARIN-prop-295: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description"
> > > to Draft Policy.
> > >
> > > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11 is below and can be found at:
> > >
> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_11/
> > >
> > > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> > > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> > > policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> > > in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles 
> > > are:
> > >
> > > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > > * Technically Sound
> > > * Supported by the Community
> > >
> > > The PDP can be found at:
> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> > >
> > > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sean Hopkins
> > > Policy Analyst
> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual
> > > Description
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Problem Statement:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The beginning of Section 2 in the NRPM shows a diagram of how addressing
> > > responsibility is delegated. However, this image does not appear to have a
> > > description or even alt text, and the actual text is not selectable. This
> > > could have accessibility implications, especially for blind people, if the
> > > NRPM is converted to plain text, or if the NRPM is translated into another
> > > language.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Policy Statement:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Proposal:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Replace the lead section of Section 2 with the following:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Responsibility for management of address spaces is distributed globally in
> > > accordance with the following procedures:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Global address space management is performed by the Internet Assigned
> > > Numbers Authority (IANA). IANA distributes address space to RIRs (AfriNIC,
> > > APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, and the RIPE NCC), but not directly to ISPs or end
> > > users.
> > >
> > > - RIRs, such as ARIN, distribute address space to Internet Service
> > > Providers (ISPs) and directly to end-user organizations.
> > >
> > > - ISPs may further delegate address space to other ISPs, as well as to
> > > other end-user organizations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Timetable for implementation: Immediate.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description

2020-12-23 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 08:55:34AM -0500, Brian Jones wrote:
> I support ARIN-2020-11 with one suggestion. Spell out what RIR stands for
> similar to the way IANA and ISP are spelled out to increase clarity and
> understandability.

Brian,

The image in question is in the header of Section 2. 
If you have a suggestion to improve the RIR definition in
Section 2.2 (
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#2-2-regional-internet-registry-rir
), can you be more specific?

Cheers!

Joe

> Brian
> 
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 5:20 PM ARIN  wrote:
> 
> > On 17 December 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced
> > "ARIN-prop-295: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description"
> > to Draft Policy.
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11 is below and can be found at:
> >
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_11/
> >
> > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> > policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> > in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
> >
> > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > * Technically Sound
> > * Supported by the Community
> >
> > The PDP can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
> >
> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean Hopkins
> > Policy Analyst
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual
> > Description
> >
> >
> >
> > Problem Statement:
> >
> >
> >
> > The beginning of Section 2 in the NRPM shows a diagram of how addressing
> > responsibility is delegated. However, this image does not appear to have a
> > description or even alt text, and the actual text is not selectable. This
> > could have accessibility implications, especially for blind people, if the
> > NRPM is converted to plain text, or if the NRPM is translated into another
> > language.
> >
> >
> >
> > Policy Statement:
> >
> >
> >
> > Proposal:
> >
> >
> >
> > Replace the lead section of Section 2 with the following:
> >
> >
> >
> > Responsibility for management of address spaces is distributed globally in
> > accordance with the following procedures:
> >
> >
> >
> > - Global address space management is performed by the Internet Assigned
> > Numbers Authority (IANA). IANA distributes address space to RIRs (AfriNIC,
> > APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, and the RIPE NCC), but not directly to ISPs or end
> > users.
> >
> > - RIRs, such as ARIN, distribute address space to Internet Service
> > Providers (ISPs) and directly to end-user organizations.
> >
> > - ISPs may further delegate address space to other ISPs, as well as to
> > other end-user organizations.
> >
> >
> >
> > Timetable for implementation: Immediate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description

2020-12-23 Thread Brian Jones
I support ARIN-2020-11 with one suggestion. Spell out what RIR stands for
similar to the way IANA and ISP are spelled out to increase clarity and
understandability.
—
Brian

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 5:20 PM ARIN  wrote:

> On 17 December 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced
> "ARIN-prop-295: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description"
> to Draft Policy.
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11 is below and can be found at:
>
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2020_11/
>
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
>
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual
> Description
>
>
>
> Problem Statement:
>
>
>
> The beginning of Section 2 in the NRPM shows a diagram of how addressing
> responsibility is delegated. However, this image does not appear to have a
> description or even alt text, and the actual text is not selectable. This
> could have accessibility implications, especially for blind people, if the
> NRPM is converted to plain text, or if the NRPM is translated into another
> language.
>
>
>
> Policy Statement:
>
>
>
> Proposal:
>
>
>
> Replace the lead section of Section 2 with the following:
>
>
>
> Responsibility for management of address spaces is distributed globally in
> accordance with the following procedures:
>
>
>
> - Global address space management is performed by the Internet Assigned
> Numbers Authority (IANA). IANA distributes address space to RIRs (AfriNIC,
> APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, and the RIPE NCC), but not directly to ISPs or end
> users.
>
> - RIRs, such as ARIN, distribute address space to Internet Service
> Providers (ISPs) and directly to end-user organizations.
>
> - ISPs may further delegate address space to other ISPs, as well as to
> other end-user organizations.
>
>
>
> Timetable for implementation: Immediate.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2020-11: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual Description

2020-12-22 Thread Alan Batie

On 12/22/20 2:20 PM, ARIN wrote:
On 17 December 2020, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced 
"ARIN-prop-295: Replace the Image in Section 2 With a Textual 
Description" to Draft Policy.


I will always support replacing images of text with real text, not even 
counting the accessibility issue...




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