[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Andreas Reschke


Am 05.12.18 um 00:45 schrieb Peter Robinson:

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz <
r...@htt-consult.com> wrote:

Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:

# fedora-arm-image-installer  --image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-
Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz --supported --
media=/dev/sdb
cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No
such file or directory

The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards,
rather than what the image shows and why the double

You need to update to the latest version.


Yeah,,,

I had tried a 'dnf update fedora-arm*' and got nothing to update.

Had problems with the system so did a general dnf update to get the
latest stuff before rebooting and now it works.

So my bad on trying a shortcut to update fedora-arm-image-
installer

No odroid listed, so it is do it the long way, it seems.

The odroid boards need binary files we can not distribute. While I have
a couple they are not really supportable.

So this confirms it is the long way and no shortcuts forthcoming.

OK.  I will deal with it.  It does look to be one of the better boards
out there right now.  But will see if I can get it to boot as I would
like...

The Odroid boards are OK, but we don't have any engagement with them
so they're a best effort and they do occasionally break. The Odroid
people don't tend to do anything upstream and they have a signed SPL
(Secondary Process Loader) which means we can't produce working U-Boot
binaries due to the bits that Dennis mentions above. They really are a
community supported best effort, I personally prefer to engage and
actively support devices where the companies work with the upstream
communities to support their devices.

Peter
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Peter: you're right. But on the other hand, there is no other SBC with 
this power (Hexacore, USB3,SATA,...)


Andreas
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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Peter Robinson
> >>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz <
> >>> r...@htt-consult.com> wrote:
>  Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:
> 
>  # fedora-arm-image-installer  --image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-
>  Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz --supported --
>  media=/dev/sdb
>  cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No
>  such file or directory
> 
>  The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards,
>  rather than what the image shows and why the double
> >>> You need to update to the latest version.
> >>>
> >> Yeah,,,
> >>
> >> I had tried a 'dnf update fedora-arm*' and got nothing to update.
> >>
> >> Had problems with the system so did a general dnf update to get the
> >> latest stuff before rebooting and now it works.
> >>
> >> So my bad on trying a shortcut to update fedora-arm-image-
> >> installer
> >>
> >> No odroid listed, so it is do it the long way, it seems.
> > The odroid boards need binary files we can not distribute. While I have
> > a couple they are not really supportable.
>
> So this confirms it is the long way and no shortcuts forthcoming.
>
> OK.  I will deal with it.  It does look to be one of the better boards
> out there right now.  But will see if I can get it to boot as I would
> like...

The Odroid boards are OK, but we don't have any engagement with them
so they're a best effort and they do occasionally break. The Odroid
people don't tend to do anything upstream and they have a signed SPL
(Secondary Process Loader) which means we can't produce working U-Boot
binaries due to the bits that Dennis mentions above. They really are a
community supported best effort, I personally prefer to engage and
actively support devices where the companies work with the upstream
communities to support their devices.

Peter
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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Peter Robinson
> On 12/4/18 12:51 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz  
> > wrote:
> >> Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:
> >>
> >> # fedora-arm-image-installer  
> >> --image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz
> >>  --supported --media=/dev/sdb
> >> cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No such file 
> >> or directory
> >>
> >> The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards, rather 
> >> than what the image shows and why the double
> > You need to update to the latest version.
> >
> Yeah,,,
>
> I had tried a 'dnf update fedora-arm*' and got nothing to update.
>
> Had problems with the system so did a general dnf update to get the
> latest stuff before rebooting and now it works.
>
> So my bad on trying a shortcut to update fedora-arm-image-installer
>
> No odroid listed, so it is do it the long way, it seems.

The supported boards list is the list that the tool can provision, not
necessarily the boards that Fedora supports in general.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Andreas Reschke


Am 04.12.18 um 19:24 schrieb Dennis Gilmore:

El mar, 04-12-2018 a las 13:12 -0500, Robert Moskowitz escribió:

On 12/4/18 12:51 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz <
r...@htt-consult.com> wrote:

Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:

# fedora-arm-image-installer  --image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-
Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz --supported --
media=/dev/sdb
cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No
such file or directory

The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards,
rather than what the image shows and why the double

You need to update to the latest version.


Yeah,,,

I had tried a 'dnf update fedora-arm*' and got nothing to update.

Had problems with the system so did a general dnf update to get the
latest stuff before rebooting and now it works.

So my bad on trying a shortcut to update fedora-arm-image-
installer

No odroid listed, so it is do it the long way, it seems.

The odroid boards need binary files we can not distribute. While I have
a couple they are not really supportable.

Dennis


Hello Dennis,

I'm very satisfied with my 3 Odroid HC1 running with Fedora as 
Nextcloud, Mail, NTP, transmission, et cetera.


Greetings

Andreas
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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
El mar, 04-12-2018 a las 13:12 -0500, Robert Moskowitz escribió:
> 
> On 12/4/18 12:51 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz <
> > r...@htt-consult.com> wrote:
> > > Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:
> > > 
> > > # fedora-arm-image-installer  --image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-
> > > Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz --supported --
> > > media=/dev/sdb
> > > cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No
> > > such file or directory
> > > 
> > > The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards,
> > > rather than what the image shows and why the double
> > You need to update to the latest version.
> > 
> Yeah,,,
> 
> I had tried a 'dnf update fedora-arm*' and got nothing to update.
> 
> Had problems with the system so did a general dnf update to get the 
> latest stuff before rebooting and now it works.
> 
> So my bad on trying a shortcut to update fedora-arm-image-
> installer
> 
> No odroid listed, so it is do it the long way, it seems.

The odroid boards need binary files we can not distribute. While I have
a couple they are not really supportable.

Dennis


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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 12/4/18 12:51 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:

# fedora-arm-image-installer  
--image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz 
--supported --media=/dev/sdb
cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No such file or 
directory

The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards, rather than 
what the image shows and why the double

You need to update to the latest version.


Yeah,,,

I had tried a 'dnf update fedora-arm*' and got nothing to update.

Had problems with the system so did a general dnf update to get the 
latest stuff before rebooting and now it works.


So my bad on trying a shortcut to update fedora-arm-image-installer

No odroid listed, so it is do it the long way, it seems.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:17 PM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
>
> Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:
>
> # fedora-arm-image-installer  
> --image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz 
> --supported --media=/dev/sdb
> cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No such file or 
> directory
>
> The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards, rather than 
> what the image shows and why the double

You need to update to the latest version.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Finding out which boards are supported

2018-12-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Additional bug? in F28 x64 installer:

# fedora-arm-image-installer 
--image=/home/rgm/arm/Fedora-Minimal-armhfp-Rawhide-20181203.n.0-sda.raw.xz 
--supported --media=/dev/sdb
cat: /usr/share/doc/fedora-arm-installer//SUPPORTED-BOARDS: No such file 
or directory


The installer looks at what my system lists as supported boards, rather 
than what the image shows and why the double // ?


Our newcomer, Adrian, has offered to look at the Installer script. Well 
here is one thing that needs help it seems.


On 12/4/18 12:06 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Without doing an install to:

cat /usr/share/doc/arm-image-installer/SUPPORTED-BOARDS

Kind of a catch-22.  You have to do an install to find out if your 
board is supported?


I know there is a uboot for odroid-xu3, but does the F30 installer 
install for it?


Well I will give it a try, but still you have created a catch-22 here.

(and who here has read the book or saw the movie?  :) ).

(book is MUCH better than the movie, you really cannot follow all the 
flashbacks in the movie)





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