[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-14 Thread David W. Legg
I suspect that, with the shortage of chips from China, we are dredging 
the bottom of the barrel and are buying some Raspberry Pis with 
anomalous, early or unusual hardware or firmware behaviour. :(


On 13/01/2022 21:07, Chris Adams wrote:

Hmm, I picked up a Pi4 4G recently, and was also unable to boot Fedora
from the SD card (had to use a USB adapter instead).  Same error as in
this thread, tried multiple cards (including a card from a Pi3), no
different.

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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-14 Thread David W. Legg
Yes, Paul, I tried 2 different makes of card and four different cards, 3 
different power supplies, and 2 different ways of writing the cards.


On 13/01/2022 20:59, Paul Whalen wrote:

Have you tried a different mSD card?

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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Paul Whalen  said:
> There seems to be some difference in Pi's, we tested the Fedora 34 and 35
> images on various
> Raspberry Pi 4's - 2GB, 4GB and 8GB. The only board which required the
> firmware provided dtb
> was the Raspberry Pi 400.  From the bug, someone else hit it with the
> Raspberry Pi 4 8GB, but I
> was unable to reproduce. We compared the eeprom bootloader versions, and
> both were running
> the same version (c2f8c388 - Apr 29 2021).
> 
> Have you tried a different mSD card?

Hmm, I picked up a Pi4 4G recently, and was also unable to boot Fedora
from the SD card (had to use a USB adapter instead).  Same error as in
this thread, tried multiple cards (including a card from a Pi3), no
different.

-- 
Chris Adams 
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-13 Thread Paul Whalen
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:12 AM David W. Legg  wrote:

> So, here is my (temporary) solution, as reported in Bugzilla bug
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011423
>
> So my 4GB rpi4 refused to boot with the symptoms described about, i.e.
> mmc0 errors.
>

> I also found that Fedora-Minimal-34-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz and
> Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz also failed to boot.
> So, I downloaded the latest PIOS image, cut an SD card, and (hey presto)
> it booted (so no problems with my pi, psu or other hardware).
>
> However, there is a hint in the Fedora aarch64 wiki that one needs to
> remove /boot/dtb to get Fedora to boot (and also in the Bugzilla bug
> itself)).
> The only problem was that my Fedoras 34 and 35 both fell over without ever
> creating /boot :(
> So, here is what I did from my root history on my x86_64 Fedora desktop
> box:-
>

The 'dtb' symlink is located on the second partition of the image.


>
>   1002  # Put an SD card in USB card writer/reader.
>   1003  arm-image-installer --image=Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz
> --target=rpi4 --media=/dev/sdX # Your X will vary. Use journalctl -f
>
>   1005  mkdir /mnt/usb
>   1006  mount /dev/sdX2 /mnt/usb/
>
>   1007  # You have remove the dtb soft link and the directory it point to:-
>   1008  rm /mnt/usb/dtb
>   1009  rm /mnt/usb/dtb-5.14.10-300.fc35.aarch64/
>   1010  rm -rf /mnt/usb/dtb-5.14.10-300.fc35.aarch64/
>

You do not need to delete the kernel dtb directory
(dtb-5.14.10-300.fc35.aarch64), just the 'dtb' symlink.


>   1012  umount /mnt/usb
>   1017  gparted /dev/sdX&   # Usegparted to enlarge /dev/sdf3 partition so
> that the whole image is < 10MB.
>   1018  parted /dev/sdX
>
>   1019  # Take a copy of the SD Card image and check that all partitions
> are actually there:-
>   1020  dd if=/dev/sdX
> of=Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64-rm_dtb-size-1MB.img status=progress
> bs=1M count=1
>   1021
>   1023  fdisk -l Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64-rm_dtb-size-1MB.img
>   1024  # Put card into rpi4 and boot.
>

> This works for F34 and F35 on my 4GB rpi4. I never had to do all this
> previously, but maybe these instructions will help some-one :)
>

There seems to be some difference in Pi's, we tested the Fedora 34 and 35
images on various
Raspberry Pi 4's - 2GB, 4GB and 8GB. The only board which required the
firmware provided dtb
was the Raspberry Pi 400.  From the bug, someone else hit it with the
Raspberry Pi 4 8GB, but I
was unable to reproduce. We compared the eeprom bootloader versions, and
both were running
the same version (c2f8c388 - Apr 29 2021).

Have you tried a different mSD card?

Paul

Meanwhile, the Fedora wiki needs to be updated, and/or the Fedora .xz file
> images need to be fixed by some-one with the superpowers.
>
> :D
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-13 Thread David W. Legg
So, here is my (temporary) solution, as reported in Bugzilla bug 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011423


So my 4GB rpi4 refused to boot with the symptoms described about, i.e. mmc0 
errors.

I also found that Fedora-Minimal-34-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz and 
Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz also failed to boot.
So, I downloaded the latest PIOS image, cut an SD card, and (hey presto) it 
booted (so no problems with my pi, psu or other hardware).

However, there is a hint in the Fedora aarch64 wiki that one needs to remove 
/boot/dtb to get Fedora to boot (and also in the Bugzilla bug itself)).
The only problem was that my Fedoras 34 and 35 both fell over without ever 
creating /boot :(
So, here is what I did from my root history on my x86_64 Fedora desktop box:-

 1002  # Put an SD card in USB card writer/reader.
 1003  arm-image-installer --image=Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz 
--target=rpi4 --media=/dev/sdX # Your X will vary. Use journalctl -f

 1005  mkdir /mnt/usb
 1006  mount /dev/sdX2 /mnt/usb/

 1007  # You have remove the dtb soft link and the directory it point to:-
 1008  rm /mnt/usb/dtb
 1009  rm /mnt/usb/dtb-5.14.10-300.fc35.aarch64/
 1010  rm -rf /mnt/usb/dtb-5.14.10-300.fc35.aarch64/

 1012  umount /mnt/usb
 1017  gparted /dev/sdX&   # Usegparted to enlarge /dev/sdf3 partition so that the 
whole image is < 10MB.
 1018  parted /dev/sdX

 1019  # Take a copy of the SD Card image and check that all partitions are 
actually there:-
 1020  dd if=/dev/sdX of=Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64-rm_dtb-size-1MB.img 
status=progress bs=1M count=1
 1021
 1023  fdisk -l Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64-rm_dtb-size-1MB.img
 1024  # Put card into rpi4 and boot.

This works for F34 and F35 on my 4GB rpi4. I never had to do all this 
previously, but maybe these instructions will help some-one :)

Meanwhile, the Fedora wiki needs to be updated, and/or the Fedora .xz file 
images need to be fixed by some-one with the superpowers.

:D
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-12 Thread David W. Legg

So, this is the continuation of the above saga.

With a brand *new* rpi4, I made two different 32GB SD cards of different 
makes from both:


Fedora-Minimal-34-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz

and

Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz

I did not fiddle with partition sizes or anything like that, but I did connect 
an HDMI monitor and
keyboard/mouse USB dongle.
No network. 5V from a known good PSU. I simply cut the cards with:-

# xzcat Fedora-Minimal-35-1.2.aarch64.raw.xz | sudo dd status=progress 
bs=4M of=/dev/sdf and similar for the F34 file.

With both boots, after many minutes, I got this repeatedly in the journal:

fedora kernel: mmc0: invalid bus width
fedora kernel: mmc0: error -22 whilst initialising SD card

Nothing very definite appeared when I googled for some of the key words.

So, I have here two systems that both boot from an SD card, but then get 
confused about the SD card they have just booted from. Weird :(

Any insights appreciated, as usual.
Thanks.
:D
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-10 Thread David Legg
I've sent the rpi4 back as faulty ,:(
Thanks for your help, all.
:D


On Sun, 9 Jan 2022, 17:12 John Walicki,  wrote:

> I've physically swapped Fedora ARM SD cards between RPi3 and RPi4 devices
> in my Pi cluster without any problems.
>
> Are you certain your RPi4 4GB device has sufficient power?  I've seen Pi
> devices with different USB peripherals not boot reliably if I don't have a
> good 5V 3A power supply connected to it.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-10 Thread David W. Legg

(parted) p free
Model: Generic Mass-Storage (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdf: 31.9GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:

Number  Start   End Size    Type File system  Flags
   1024B   1049kB  1048kB   Free Space
1  1049kB  630MB   629MB   primary  fat32    boot
2  630MB   1704MB  1074MB  primary  ext4
3  1704MB  8514MB  6811MB  primary  ext4
   8514MB  31.9GB  23.4GB   Free Space


On 09/01/2022 16:44, Dennis Gilmore wrote:

Subject:
Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4
From:
Dennis Gilmore 
Date:
09/01/2022, 16:44

To:
David Legg 


I would then use parted to check that if it thinks the disk is valid.
In cases like this, I always copy the whole disk.

Dennis

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 8:07 AM David Legg  wrote:

The count is to avoid copying the whole card. I use 9000 going both ways so 
that it can't go wrong, i.e. get chopped
Good thought, though. Thanks.

On Sun, 9 Jan 2022, 13:35 Dennis Gilmore,  wrote:

Adding count probably cut the image short, it is not necessary, I generally 
always us bs=4MiB

Dennis

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 03:54 David W. Legg  wrote:

Well, I copied the card from the 2GB rpi4 using:

dd if=/dev/sdf of=card.img bs=1M count=9000 status=progress

and wrote another card using the reverse command:

dd if=card.img of=/dev/sdf bs=1M count=9000 status=progress

So, I expected it just to*work*  when I put the card into a brand new
4GB rpi4.

Alas, all I get is the steady red LED and a handful of flashes from the
yellow ACT LED. The 2 Ethernet LEDs come on steadily too.

That's why I was asking whether you experts would know about going from
a 2GB to 4GB machine would normally just*work*  or not.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

:D

On 08/01/2022 21:59, Nathan Giovannini wrote:

Subject:
Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4
From:
Nathan Giovannini
Date:
08/01/2022, 21:59

To:
Peter Robinson
CC:
"dwl...@gmail.com"  ,"arm@lists.fedoraproject.org"



Could you provide more details

This will make it easier to help you.


Il giorno 8 gen 2022, alle ore 21:14, Peter Robinson   ha 
scritto:

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:09 PM David W. Legg   wrote:

Just wondering why my attempt to move a working headless Fedora 34 build
from a 2 GB rpi4 to a 4 GB rpi4 fails even to boot. In fact, it never
even puts out the steady red LED. I copied the micro SD card (from the 2
GB pi) directly over USB and wrote the build to another SD card using dd
using a set of commands that has always been reliable in the past.

Any thoughts, please?

Why not just physically move the SD card from one to the other?

It's ultimately hard to know why without including the commands you
used as what you describe is a fairly high level overview.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-09 Thread John Walicki
I've physically swapped Fedora ARM SD cards between RPi3 and RPi4 devices in my 
Pi cluster without any problems.

Are you certain your RPi4 4GB device has sufficient power?  I've seen Pi 
devices with different USB peripherals not boot reliably if I don't have a good 
5V 3A power supply connected to it.  
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-09 Thread Dennis Gilmore
Adding count probably cut the image short, it is not necessary, I generally
always us bs=4MiB

Dennis

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 03:54 David W. Legg  wrote:

> Well, I copied the card from the 2GB rpi4 using:
>
> dd if=/dev/sdf of=card.img bs=1M count=9000 status=progress
>
> and wrote another card using the reverse command:
>
> dd if=card.img of=/dev/sdf bs=1M count=9000 status=progress
>
> So, I expected it just to *work* when I put the card into a brand new
> 4GB rpi4.
>
> Alas, all I get is the steady red LED and a handful of flashes from the
> yellow ACT LED. The 2 Ethernet LEDs come on steadily too.
>
> That's why I was asking whether you experts would know about going from
> a 2GB to 4GB machine would normally just *work* or not.
>
> Thanks in advance for any insights.
>
> :D
>
> On 08/01/2022 21:59, Nathan Giovannini wrote:
> > Subject:
> > Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4
> > From:
> > Nathan Giovannini 
> > Date:
> > 08/01/2022, 21:59
> >
> > To:
> > Peter Robinson 
> > CC:
> > "dwl...@gmail.com" , "arm@lists.fedoraproject.org"
> > 
> >
> >
> > Could you provide more details
> >
> > This will make it easier to help you.
> >
> >> Il giorno 8 gen 2022, alle ore 21:14, Peter Robinson<
> pbrobin...@gmail.com>  ha scritto:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:09 PM David W. Legg  wrote:
> >>> Just wondering why my attempt to move a working headless Fedora 34
> build
> >>> from a 2 GB rpi4 to a 4 GB rpi4 fails even to boot. In fact, it never
> >>> even puts out the steady red LED. I copied the micro SD card (from the
> 2
> >>> GB pi) directly over USB and wrote the build to another SD card using
> dd
> >>> using a set of commands that has always been reliable in the past.
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts, please?
> >> Why not just physically move the SD card from one to the other?
> >>
> >> It's ultimately hard to know why without including the commands you
> >> used as what you describe is a fairly high level overview.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-09 Thread David W. Legg

Well, I copied the card from the 2GB rpi4 using:

dd if=/dev/sdf of=card.img bs=1M count=9000 status=progress

and wrote another card using the reverse command:

dd if=card.img of=/dev/sdf bs=1M count=9000 status=progress

So, I expected it just to *work* when I put the card into a brand new 
4GB rpi4.


Alas, all I get is the steady red LED and a handful of flashes from the 
yellow ACT LED. The 2 Ethernet LEDs come on steadily too.


That's why I was asking whether you experts would know about going from 
a 2GB to 4GB machine would normally just *work* or not.


Thanks in advance for any insights.

:D

On 08/01/2022 21:59, Nathan Giovannini wrote:

Subject:
Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4
From:
Nathan Giovannini 
Date:
08/01/2022, 21:59

To:
Peter Robinson 
CC:
"dwl...@gmail.com" , "arm@lists.fedoraproject.org" 




Could you provide more details

This will make it easier to help you.


Il giorno 8 gen 2022, alle ore 21:14, Peter Robinson  ha 
scritto:

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:09 PM David W. Legg  wrote:

Just wondering why my attempt to move a working headless Fedora 34 build
from a 2 GB rpi4 to a 4 GB rpi4 fails even to boot. In fact, it never
even puts out the steady red LED. I copied the micro SD card (from the 2
GB pi) directly over USB and wrote the build to another SD card using dd
using a set of commands that has always been reliable in the past.

Any thoughts, please?

Why not just physically move the SD card from one to the other?

It's ultimately hard to know why without including the commands you
used as what you describe is a fairly high level overview.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-08 Thread Nathan Giovannini
Could you provide more details

This will make it easier to help you.

> Il giorno 8 gen 2022, alle ore 21:14, Peter Robinson  
> ha scritto:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:09 PM David W. Legg  wrote:
>> 
>> Just wondering why my attempt to move a working headless Fedora 34 build
>> from a 2 GB rpi4 to a 4 GB rpi4 fails even to boot. In fact, it never
>> even puts out the steady red LED. I copied the micro SD card (from the 2
>> GB pi) directly over USB and wrote the build to another SD card using dd
>> using a set of commands that has always been reliable in the past.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, please?
> 
> Why not just physically move the SD card from one to the other?
> 
> It's ultimately hard to know why without including the commands you
> used as what you describe is a fairly high level overview.
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[fedora-arm] Re: Moving headless install from 2GB rpi4 to 4GB rpi4

2022-01-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 8:09 PM David W. Legg  wrote:
>
> Just wondering why my attempt to move a working headless Fedora 34 build
> from a 2 GB rpi4 to a 4 GB rpi4 fails even to boot. In fact, it never
> even puts out the steady red LED. I copied the micro SD card (from the 2
> GB pi) directly over USB and wrote the build to another SD card using dd
> using a set of commands that has always been reliable in the past.
>
> Any thoughts, please?

Why not just physically move the SD card from one to the other?

It's ultimately hard to know why without including the commands you
used as what you describe is a fairly high level overview.
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