Re: Keynes in China

2001-02-05 Thread markjohn®


but being in china for 2 summers. as i can see that as time goes on, 
they're becoming a bit more liberal on things

At 06:20 PM 2/4/01 -0800, you wrote:

On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, fabio guillermo rojas wrote:

 
  A new graduate student in my department told me that at Beijing
  University, econ undergraduates are not taught Keynesian economics -
  they get a good dose of Marxism and then they get hooked up with
  monetarism!!
 
  Can anybody else verify this? Is China liberalized enough so that
  students are allowed to openly be taught free market economics?
 

I have some Chinese grad student friends and I get the impression that
what you say is correct.

But at the beginning of every one of these free-market economics books,
my friends tell me that the government prints a short "caveat emptor".
This basically states that the free-market ideas in the book are all
wrong, and that the students are being taught about these ideas so they
can see (i) how wrong these ideas really are, and (ii) how great Marx
is in comparison.

Alex Robson
UC Irvine




Re: lobbying as a public goods problem

2001-02-05 Thread Alex Tabarrok

Wei wrote "Reading Jonathan Rauch's _Government's End: Why Washington
Stopped
Working_ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1891620495) made me
wonder how special-interest lobbies solved the public goods problem."


See Mancur Olson's The Logic of Collective Action and The Rise and Fall
of Nations, both of which are about precisely this question and the
implications of the answer.

Alex 
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Re: Externalities, Coase

2001-02-05 Thread Robin Hanson

Alex Robson wrote:
I have been having a running argument with someone about externalities.
My argument was that, even if Coasian bargaining were to take place, the
externality doesn't go away - it still exists [in the sense that one
person's action directly enters the utility function of the other person]
- but that it's just no longer  Pareto-relevant.
The other person has been arguing that, once Coasian bargaining has taken
place, the externality *no longer exists*. ...

I recall getting stuck in this same debate before.  My habit was the same
as yours.  It seems to be a theorist/policy person difference.

Policy people say that there is this presumption out there that an
externality implies a market failure, which justifies government intervention.
So they do not want the word associated with situations where intervention
is probably just justified.

To a theorist, it makes little sense to define words in terms of whether
there is a market failure, for the simple reason that whether there is a
market failure is a complex feature of a larger context.  You instead want
common words to describe simple local features.   You want to be able to
talk about the major features of an economic situation without having to
analyze it in enough detail to figure out if there is a market failure.



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