Re: Bottle Deposits
john hull wrote: I could have sworn that there was a one cent deposit in California. Maybe I'm mistaken. I think it's a nickel - but either way, there's no obvious way to recover it. Anton Sherwood, http://www.ogre.nu/ The deposit varies, which is why the amount is not inscribed on bottles, only CA redemption or similar. There is a way to recover the deposits - bring the bottles to a collection center, such as at many Safeway supermarkets. Most people don't want to bother, which is why there is a booming industry in bottle collection by street people. A couple of guys come by my street every week looking in garbage cans for bottles. The collection center gives the recycler a receipt, which can then be used at Safeway for purchases. Fred Foldvary = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: University overhead
As a purchaser of university research, we often bargain with the PI on overhead, who in turn must bargain with their administration. Rodney Weiher fabio guillermo rojas wrote: Do universities compete over the overhead they charge? For example, when wooing senior faculty, is it ever the case that universities offer lower overhead for big projects? Fabio
Re: A Short Review of *Hard Heads, Soft Hearts*
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually it would be interesting to hear someone delinate a clear distinction between taxation on money and taxation in kind. There is no clear distinction. Money is a medium, and the underlying reality is goods exchanging for other goods. If you have a ticket for a show which costs $5 plus $1 in tax, the tax is not really on the ticket, but on the show. Fred Foldvary = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mach. quote--off topic??
Hey, Since Brian isn't here to keep us in line, I decided to change the subject heading to make it easy to identify and delete if one so chooses. --- Akilesh Ayyar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I'm not sure where the Machiavelli quote comes from, but are you sure he wasn't arguing, by a kind of appeal to majority opinion, that there is no debt to people who have done no wrong? Good question. I almost panicked when I read it. I'm reading it from Niccolo Machiavelli, The Discourses translated by Leslie J. Walker, Penguin Classics 1983. Page 154. Let me reproduce the paragraph: In addition to the difficulty already mentioned [in a state going from servitude to freedom] there is yet another. It is that the government of a state which has become free evokes factions which are hostile, not factions which are friendly. To such hostile factions will belong all those who held preferment under the tyrannical government and grew fat on the riches of its prince, since, now that they are deprived of these emoluments, they cannot live contented, but are compelled, each of them, to try to restore the tyranny in order to regain their authority. Nor, as I have said, will such a government acquire supporters who are friendly, because a self-governing state assigns honours and reward only for honest and determinate reasons, and, apart from this, rewards and honours no one; and when one acquires honours or advantages which appear to have been deserved, one does not acknowledge any obligation towards those responsible for the remuneration. Furthermore, that common advantage which results from a self-governing state is not recognized by anybody so long as it is possessed - the possibility of enjoying what one has, freely and without incurring suspicion for instance, the assurance that one's wife and children will be respected, the absence of fear for oneself - for no one admits that he incurs an obligation to another merely because that other has done him no wrong.(Any typos are my own.) Since he asserts the existence of a common advantage and that no one recognizes it, I think I did the passage justice. Would you agree? I certainly don't want to do violence to an author's work. I've heard that Walker's translation isn't the best, but I've not encountered any others. Best regards, jsh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: Dubyanomics
In a message dated 12/4/02 7:17:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember when VP Quayle uttered (or was said to have uttered) the line, the best educated Americans in the world. In fact, the line is shown half-way down this Quayle blooper page: http://www.psiaz.com/quayle.htm So unless lightning has struck twice, so to speak, I have my doubts about the complete authenticity of these wonderful quotes. Carl And I recall that one alleged Dan Quayle quotation I passed along to friends turned out to have been said by Al Glore. David
Re: A Short Review of *Hard Heads, Soft Hearts*
In a message dated 12/4/02 1:14:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually it would be interesting to hear someone delinate a clear distinction between taxation on money and taxation in kind. There is no clear distinction. Money is a medium, and the underlying reality is goods exchanging for other goods. If you have a ticket for a show which costs $5 plus $1 in tax, the tax is not really on the ticket, but on the show. Fred Foldvary I'm inclined to think there is no clear distinction, which is why I asked the original author of the comment (js I believe) to provide one. Still I must admit that there does seem to be, on some emotional level, a difference among having one's goods confiscated, being forced to perform manual labor or other services not of a sexual nature, and being forced to perform sexual services. Without being able to draw any clean lines of distinction myself, I just not that the second seems more invasive than the first, and the third more in vasive than the second. David
Re: University overhead
How sticky is the price for university overhead? Fabio On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Rodney F Weiher wrote: As a purchaser of university research, we often bargain with the PI on overhead, who in turn must bargain with their administration. Rodney Weiher fabio guillermo rojas wrote: Do universities compete over the overhead they charge? For example, when wooing senior faculty, is it ever the case that universities offer lower overhead for big projects? Fabio for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:32:46 -0600 (CST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) id gB4GJvCl007013 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:19:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from julesburg.uits.indiana.edu (julesburg.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.1.75]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB4GJu5C006992 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:19:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from logchain.uits.indiana.edu (logchain.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.1.77]) by julesburg.uits.indiana.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id gB4GJro7014681 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from indiana.edu (jimerso.soc.indiana.edu [129.79.103.5]) by logchain.uits.indiana.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id gB4GJtZq015788 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:19:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:19:56 -0500 X-PH: V4.4 (uchicago), $Revision: 1.60 $@midway From: Brian Steensland [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Indiana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi Fabio-- If you still have questions about the Indiana department or Bloomington, I'll be around all afternoon today if it would still be helpful for you to talk to people here. Regards, Brian
Re: A Short Review of *Hard Heads, Soft Hearts*
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Actually it would be interesting to hear someone delinate a clear distinction between taxation on money and taxation in kind.'...I'm inclined to think there is no clear distinction,which is why I asked the original author of the comment (js I believe) to provide one. I don't think it was me, I think it was in response to something I wrote. Aren't payments in kind worth less than payments in cash, when the value is a significant portion of one's income, because they impose the consumption decision (for lack of a better term) on the individual? I thought I remember learning how that was modeled, but it was a while ago. If that is true, then maybe taxes in kind may be analogous? Just a guess. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Median voter thm. Elementary question
Howdy, I've never really studied the Median Voter Theorem. Recently I read where someone claimed that the U.S. political system was designed to keep the two parties nearly identical by keeping other parties out. I assumed that the reason they Dems Reps seem so close may be because of the MVT--they want the middle guy's vote. So then I thought, suppose a third party were let into the race, does the MVT still hold w/ for 3 or more candidates? Does it weaken as more candidates are added, or do they all bunch toward the center for for any n2, where n is the number of candidates? Does anybody know of a good discussion of it online? -jsh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
